Kentucky Jet Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Could the Bulger deal impact the Jets' plans? June, 24, 2010 Jun 2410:52AM ETEmail Print Comments By Rich CiminiIt will be interesting to see if the Baltimore Ravens' acquisition of backup QB Marc Bulger for the outlandish amount of $3.8 million on a one-year contract will have a trickle-down effect on the Jets. From all indications, the Jets are planning to sign backup QB Mark Brunell on or after July 24, when the "Final Eight" restrictions are lifted. Neither Brunell nor Bulger is close to what he used to be, but will Bulger's stunning deal drive up Brunell's asking price? Many figured Brunell would sign for the minimum ($860,000 for a player with his experience), but now you have to wonder. This premise, of course, is based on the assumption that Brunell doesn't already have a handshake deal in place with the Jets. The Jets, as you know, haven't been throwing around much cash this offseason. Here's another question: What if the Ravens decide to part ways with backup Troy Smith, who could be the odd-man out in their quarterback mix? Rex Ryan knows Smith from his days as a Ravens assistant. Would the Jets be interested? I doubt it. They have young quarterbacks; what they need is a seasoned veteran. Bulger would've been a better choice than Brunell because he has more football left than the almost-40 journeyman, but there's no way the Jets were going to play $3.8 million. Like the Jets, the Ravens are in a Super Bowl-or-bust mode, except they're willing to pay a premium for quarterback insurance. The Jets, apparently, are not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 This is why Cimini's a douche. In one breath, the Ravens paid way too much for Bulger: It will be interesting to see if the Baltimore Ravens' acquisition of backup QB Marc Bulger for the outlandish amount of $3.8 million on a one-year contract will have a trickle-down effect on the Jets. By the time he gets to the end of the article, the Jets are cheaping out for not paying that outlandish price: Bulger would've been a better choice than Brunell because he has more football left than the almost-40 journeyman, but there's no way the Jets were going to play $3.8 million. Like the Jets, the Ravens are in a Super Bowl-or-bust mode, except they're willing to pay a premium for quarterback insurance. The Jets, apparently, are not. Just shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 the Jets don't pay for players... not this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 the Jets don't pay for players... not this year. Except for the ones they've paid for, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Except for the ones they've paid for, right? like who? nick folk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 This is why Cimini's a douche. In one breath, the Ravens paid way too much for Bulger: By the time he gets to the end of the article, the Jets are cheaping out for not paying that outlandish price: Just shut up. It's June 24th and Cimini has nothing to write about so he invented something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 like who? nick folk? Compare Jason Taylor's deal to Jay Feely's. Oh, and never let the FACTS get in the way of a good argument there bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSJets Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Bit is still bitter over the Jets getting rid of D-Bust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Brunell is going to carry a clipboard - no way he can ask and get a 3 million dollar contract at about 40 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 wait rich, didn't you have brunell on your jets 53 man roster ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Brunell is going to carry a clipboard - no way he can ask and get a 3 million dollar contract at about 40 years old. What do you expect Bulger to be doing in Baltimore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 What do you expect Bulger to be doing in Baltimore? Brunell is older and Bulger will probabbly be eating crab cakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Troy Smith would be a decent back up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Brunell is older and Bulger will probabbly be eating crab cakes. "Crab cakes and football thats what Maryland does!" "The big guy loves the crab cakes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 i bet vinny would come back for league minimum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 He lost me at Troy Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 the Jets don't pay for players... not this year. So cool of Cromartie and Santonio Holmes to play for free! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted June 24, 2010 Share Posted June 24, 2010 Troy Smith would be a decent back up We have the same guy in Brad Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kentucky Jet Posted June 25, 2010 Author Share Posted June 25, 2010 We have the same guy in Brad Smith. and I do believe that Brad Smith will get some reps at the QB position this preseason. Why pay Brunell when we have so many core guys to sign? I also feel that Ainge can do a good job. He played very well last year in preseason against the 2's. i'd like to see what he does against the 1's. Forget Brunell. go with the young guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Could the Bulger deal impact the Jets' plans? June, 24, 2010 Jun 2410:52AM ETEmail Print Comments By Rich CiminiIt will be interesting to see if the Baltimore Ravens' acquisition of backup QB Marc Bulger for the outlandish amount of $3.8 million on a one-year contract will have a trickle-down effect on the Jets. From all indications, the Jets are planning to sign backup QB Mark Brunell on or after July 24, when the "Final Eight" restrictions are lifted. Neither Brunell nor Bulger is close to what he used to be, but will Bulger's stunning deal drive up Brunell's asking price? Many figured Brunell would sign for the minimum ($860,000 for a player with his experience), but now you have to wonder. This premise, of course, is based on the assumption that Brunell doesn't already have a handshake deal in place with the Jets. The Jets, as you know, haven't been throwing around much cash this offseason. Here's another question: What if the Ravens decide to part ways with backup Troy Smith, who could be the odd-man out in their quarterback mix? Rex Ryan knows Smith from his days as a Ravens assistant. Would the Jets be interested? I doubt it. They have young quarterbacks; what they need is a seasoned veteran. Bulger would've been a better choice than Brunell because he has more football left than the almost-40 journeyman, but there's no way the Jets were going to play $3.8 million. Like the Jets, the Ravens are in a Super Bowl-or-bust mode, except they're willing to pay a premium for quarterback insurance. The Jets, apparently, are not. Wait... we aren't throwing $ around? We have a CB wanting 16M a year. A C wanting big coin Other players needing coin. We traded picks to get players making pretty big coin. Cimini, you're embarrassing yourself. You fit right in with ESPN actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Compare Jason Taylor's deal to Jay Feely's. Oh, and never let the FACTS get in the way of a good argument there bit. As they were final 8 signings these contracts are identical until Taylor hits his incentives. Signing Taylor to an incentive deal or Brunnel for 700k over vets minimum doesn't prove it. I need to see a core signing. Don't care who as long as it's someone and it's soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Wait... we aren't throwing $ around? We have a CB wanting 16M a year. A C wanting big coin Other players needing coin. exactly alot of wants none have been granted We traded picks to get players making pretty big coin. big coin? braylon on the last year of his rookie deal and now the 1 and 3 RFA tender isn't a Darrelle Revis/DBrick contract. It's not "big coin" im waiting for the big coin... every day expect it's gonna be the headline... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aec4 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 exactly alot of wants none have been granted big coin? braylon on the last year of his rookie deal and now the 1 and 3 RFA tender isn't a Darrelle Revis/DBrick contract. It's not "big coin" im waiting for the big coin... every day expect it's gonna be the headline... 6M cap hit in 1 season = big coin. I know you have an agenda, but come on man. We put ourselves in a position to spend a TON of cash on resigning guys, in an economic environment where we CAN NOT give more than a 30% raise, we DO NOT know what the cap (there will be one) will be like, and we are only allowed to sign FAs who are equal to the guys (cash wise) than what we lost, and we lost 1. give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Mark Brunell declares bankruptcy Posted by Mike Florio on June 25, 2010 8:35 AM ET For the second time in less than three years, a former NFL starting quarterback has sought protection not from five offensive linemen, but from the eleventh chapter of the U.S. bankruptcy laws. The last time around, it was Mike Vick. This time, it's Mark Brunell. Abel Harding of the Florida Times-Union reports that Brunell plans to make the filing today, despite earning $52 million during his career. The tipping point seems to be multiple lawsuits resulting from failed business loans for which Brunell and others co-signed. The fact, however, that the total liability under those claims falls in the neighborhood of $3.3 million suggests that Brunell hasn't squirreled away much, if any, of the money he made while playing. To qualify for bankruptcy protection, assets can't exceed debts. Thus, Brunell necessarily has less money than he owes. The filing will trigger an automatic stay of all pending litigation. Then, the process converts into an effort to identify Brunell's non-exempt assets and to distribute them to creditors based on priority. Eventually, a plan is approved for repaying as much of the debts as possible. Typically, some creditors end up getting pennies on the dollar, or nothing at all. There's also a chance that the filing will be converted into a full-blown liquidation under Chapter 7, where Brunell basically comes out of the process with the shirt on his back and the roof over his head, and everything else goes to creditors. He reportedly plans to sign with the Jets on or after July 22, when the rules of the "Final Eight Plan" expire. It remains to be seen whether the Jets will choose to follow through on their interest, given that Brunell necessarily brings to Broadway the kind of baggage that some teams would prefer to avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 bankrupt after earning $52 million. unfathomable. if you want to take an entrepreneurial risk that's fine but at least stash $10 million away just in case it doesn't pan out, Mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 As they were final 8 signings these contracts are identical until Taylor hits his incentives. Signing Taylor to an incentive deal or Brunnel for 700k over vets minimum doesn't prove it. I need to see a core signing. Don't care who as long as it's someone and it's soon. So you won't be impressed by them signing Brunell for $700K over the vet minimum, but you'd be impressed if they spent big money on him? They've gotten some "core" players pretty cheap. Unlike you, I do not see this as a negative. exactly alot of wants none have been granted big coin? braylon on the last year of his rookie deal and now the 1 and 3 RFA tender isn't a Darrelle Revis/DBrick contract. It's not "big coin" im waiting for the big coin... every day expect it's gonna be the headline... It's $6+M ****ing dollars. It's not peanuts. I don't want headline signings. I want quality for a bargain. Headline signings got us albatross deals for Cox, Pennington and Martin. No ****ing thank you. $6M is peanuts? bankrupt after earning $52 million. unfathomable. if you want to take an entrepreneurial risk that's fine but at least stash $10 million away just in case it doesn't pan out, Mark. Why should he have stashed $10M? If he did he'd have to pay his debts and he wouldn't have been able to enjoy the last $10M worth of crack whores and cocaine. Besides, it probably is stashed somewhere. Right next to all of Tiki's money. They'll be able to access it after all the litigation is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Bit is still bitter over the Jets getting rid of D-Bust And don't ever forget - "the Jets don't get any better by getting rid of Kerry Rhodes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 6M cap hit in 1 season = big coin. give it up. it's big coin to you and me but it's less than 5% of a 128 M cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 And don't ever forget - "the Jets don't get any better by getting rid of Kerry Rhodes" let's see how the numbers shake out but if this year's defense is statistically better than last year's it will be #1 again and possibly best of all time. It's alot to ask... and not usually achieved by getting rid of talented young athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 let's see how the numbers shake out but if this year's defense is statistically better than last year's it will be #1 again and possibly best of all time. It's alot to ask... and not usually achieved by getting rid of talented young athletes. So, on the record, you're saying that the only step you can take from last years defense is to best of all time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetfan13 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 Backup QB Bulger to earn more than Flacco Jun256/25/2010 8:57:47 AM | More Marc Bulger, the Ravens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted June 25, 2010 Share Posted June 25, 2010 We have the same guy in Brad Smith. Completely different players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 it's big coin to you and me but it's less than 5% of a 128 M cap but there are 53 guys on the roster, which leaves 2.41 mm per player, or about double the average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 Bitonti's offseason agenda has been highly annoying. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernJet Posted June 27, 2010 Share Posted June 27, 2010 let's see how the numbers shake out but if this year's defense is statistically better than last year's it will be #1 again and possibly best of all time. It's alot to ask... and not usually achieved by getting rid of talented young athletes. only shot of Jets being best of alltime was if we still had that stud DROB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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