RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I mentioned this a few weeks ago. A handful of you saw it but mostly got "no way Green Bay fires him." Well, something is stinky and moldy in Cheeseland. Like Camembert bad. There are rumblings that the relationship between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers is souring. Clearly, Rodgers ain't going nowhere. Experienced. Respected. No nonsense. Offensive-minded. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkus Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Thinking the same, doubt he gets fired though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Absolute zero chance the Jets are this lucky. And also at this point I have my doubts about Woody hiring anyone with that much clout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMagicRat Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 If he gets fired and we don't fire Bowles...I will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 I would love it, but as someone else said, we are unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Mccarthy has been blessed going from favre to rodgers. Without a qb, he will be 6-10 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 7 minutes ago, Barkus said: Thinking the same, doubt he gets fired though. Then Macc should trade for him. It has been done before. This is a 4 year rebuild. Why not start with the Head Coach? I am thinking closer to the Herman Edwards trade. The Jon Gruden trade was lunacy. Super Bowl or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 He's losing with Aaron Rogers as his QB. Why don't we stick with Bowles at least one more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Doug Marrone is next up. Was Mike M's choice but Woody got scared off by the Daily News hatchet job against Marrone. Marrone was close w/Cannizzaro when OL coach under Herm. DN was afraid Post would get all the inside scoops so they (Mehta & Lupica) went on a daily crusade against Marrone. Mccagnan and Marrone go back to World Football league days. Mcc signed Marrone to play for London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: Mccarthy has been blessed going from favre to rodgers. Without a qb, he will be 6-10 here. Certainly possible you are right. But we have seen many Packers games over the years. I am sure we don't notice other teams' Head Coach blunders as much as the Jets. But I don't recall thinking, man, that was really stupid from McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 They won't fire him, but if they did he'd be a great hire. Marrone would also be a good choice because he wouldn't stand for the crap that Mo and Revis have done this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 2 minutes ago, JetsFanatic said: He's losing with Aaron Rogers as his QB. Why don't we stick with Bowles at least one more season. I remember early in his coaching career pretty much everyone thought he was in way over his head, was one of the poorer HCs in the league, with an admittedly aging Favre,. But with ARodgers now he's someone we should trade for. While with Rodgers his team struggles at least as much as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 9 minutes ago, C Mart said: Doug Marrone is next up. Was Mike M's choice but Woody got scared off by the Daily News hatchet job against Marrone. Marrone was close w/Cannizzaro when OL coach under Herm. DN was afraid Post would get all the inside scoops so they (Mehta & Lupica) went on a daily crusade against Marrone. Mccagnan and Marrone go back to World Football league days. Mcc signed Marrone to play for London. I agree with you. If they make a change it would most likely be Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I remember early in his coaching career pretty much everyone thought he was in way over his head, was one of the poorer HCs in the league, with an admittedly aging Favre,. But with ARodgers now he's someone we should trade for. While with Rodgers his team struggles at least as much as ours. This is chicken or the egg to a degree. Of course it is easier to coach with a superstar QB. Doesn't mean McCarthy can't coach. Holmgren had Favre too. He also took a Hasselbeck to a SB with Seattle, if not for a couple of crucial bad calls, they would have won. Marv Levy had Jim Kelly. Anyone think he couldn't coach? Marty Schottenheimer was close with three teams with quality QB's (playoff choking aside.) Marty is super respected, biggest reason why his incompetent son keeps getting employed. Of course there are others that failed after going from a great QB to crap. Mike Shanahan comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 18 minutes ago, RoadFan said: I mentioned this a few weeks ago. A handful of you saw it but mostly got "no way Green Bay fires him." Well, something is stinky and moldy in Cheeseland. Like Camembert bad. There are rumblings that the relationship between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers is souring. Clearly, Rodgers ain't going nowhere. Experienced. Respected. No nonsense. Offensive-minded. Perfect. As much as I don't want ANOTHER CS regime change - although the Bowles critics are starting to be validated IMO by these frustrating game plans & bone-head losses - McCarthy is the only candidate I would accept as a replacement next year due to the traits you stated. We do need to break away from these defensive-minded "scared to lose b/c of my offense" HC philosophies that have prevailed since the 2000 Al Groh era to the present day CS. A Franchise QB helps, but the league is regulated to be entertaining due to offense and the Jets need an offensive mentality that will NOT offend their loyal fans with the current weak product that seems ill prepared to contend in this league on a weekly basis. My brother - A Giants fan - always said the NFL should have relegation teams like fútbol; the 2016 Jets are a B-league joke this year. So yeah! McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: As much as I don't want ANOTHER CS regime change - although the Bowles critics are starting to be validated IMO by these frustrating game plans & bone-head losses - McCarthy is the only candidate I would accept as a replacement next year due to the traits you stated. We do need to break away from these defensive-minded "scared to lose b/c of my offense" HC philosophies that have prevailed since the 2000 Al Groh era to the present day CS. A Franchise QB helps, but the league is regulated to be entertaining due to offense and the Jets need an offensive mentality that will NOT offend their loyal fans with the current weak product that seems ill prepared to contend in this league on a weekly basis. My brother - A Giants fan - always said the NFL should have relegation teams like fútbol; the 2016 Jets are a B-league joke this year. So yeah! McCarthy. I think the relegation concept would actually be better served for college football. Have 10 divisions or so. No conferences. You finish in the top two, move up. Bottom two? Move down. That would eventually eliminate the absurd 65-3 scores college sees every week. Play 10 games in a division with similar talent. If minor league NFL existed, yes, relegation and promotion would be cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gas2No99 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, C Mart said: Doug Marrone is next up. Was Mike M's choice but Woody got scared off by the Daily News hatchet job against Marrone. Marrone was close w/Cannizzaro when OL coach under Herm. DN was afraid Post would get all the inside scoops so they (Mehta & Lupica) went on a daily crusade against Marrone. Mccagnan and Marrone go back to World Football league days. Mcc signed Marrone to play for London. This is what that schmuck Kay said on his radio show today. He went on a rant about this conspiracy theory and how the public character assassination of Marrone was an affront to "journalistic integrity" (RIP Gwen Ifil). The way he presented the facts about Marrone bailing Buffalo b/c he had a "SURE THING" w/the Jets made sense. What he said, and you stated the same, was that Marrone was Mac's initial choice prior to Bowles. That was NEWS to ME! I thought Bowles was Mac's original guy, so does one infer that Mac was overridden by Johnson or The Consultants: Cass & Wolf and had to acquiesce to Bowles?? Marrone is currently the OL Coach on a soon-to-be-replaced Jax staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, C Mart said: Doug Marrone is next up. Was Mike M's choice but Woody got scared off by the Daily News hatchet job against Marrone. Marrone was close w/Cannizzaro when OL coach under Herm. DN was afraid Post would get all the inside scoops so they (Mehta & Lupica) went on a daily crusade against Marrone. Mccagnan and Marrone go back to World Football league days. Mcc signed Marrone to play for London. Marrone will be the next HC of the Jaguars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, RoadFan said: This is chicken or the egg to a degree. Of course it is easier to coach with a superstar QB. Doesn't mean McCarthy can't coach. Holmgren had Favre too. He also took a Hasselbeck to a SB with Seattle, if not for a couple of crucial bad calls, they would have won. Marv Levy had Jim Kelly. Anyone think he couldn't coach? Marty Schottenheimer was close with three teams with quality QB's (playoff choking aside.) Marty is super respected, biggest reason why his incompetent son keeps getting employed. Of course there are others that failed after going from a great QB to crap. Mike Shanahan comes to mind. I'm just saying he had a bad rep with Favre. He was bad early, grew into the job. If Packer fans were impatient like Jet fans he would have been fired early on. And Bowles has never had the benefit of a Favre, Rodgers, Kelly, Elway etc... So shouldn't he be given a chance? Not like McCarthy is bringing Rodgers with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Just now, Gas2No99 said: This is what that schmuck Kay said on his radio show today. He went on a rant about this conspiracy theory and how the public character assassination of Marrone was an affront to "journalistic integrity" (RIP Gwen Ifil). The way he presented the facts about Marrone bailing Buffalo b/c he had a "SURE THING" w/the Jets made sense. What he said, and you stated the same, was that Marrone was Mac's initial choice prior to Bowles. That was NEWS to ME! I thought Bowles was Mac's original guy, so does one infer that Mac was overridden by Johnson or The Consultants: Cass & Wolf and had to acquiesce to Bowles?? Marrone is currently the OL Coach on a soon-to-be-replaced Jax staff. It's been mentioned previously. Woody. He didn't want the negative press over Marrone's hiring. Not a good way to start off a new regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Only if he's bringing Aaron Rodgers with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 51 minutes ago, C Mart said: Doug Marrone is next up. Was Mike M's choice but Woody got scared off by the Daily News hatchet job against Marrone. Marrone was close w/Cannizzaro when OL coach under Herm. DN was afraid Post would get all the inside scoops so they (Mehta & Lupica) went on a daily crusade against Marrone. Mccagnan and Marrone go back to World Football league days. Mcc signed Marrone to play for London. Marrone already interviewed poorly for Woody, why would Woody go back to that well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 minute ago, Jet Nut said: I'm just saying he had a bad rep with Favre. He was bad early, grew into the job. If Packer fans were impatient like Jet fans he would have been fired early on. And Bowles has never had the benefit of a Favre, Rodgers, Kelly, Elway etc... So shouldn't he be given a chance? Not like McCarthy is bringing Rodgers with him He has been given a chance. Bowles has made indefensible decisions. Completely devoid of any logic whatsoever. Then he says he would make the same choices again. He admitted to having little interest in the offense. So, all he does is coach defense. What encouraging signs have you seen from this defense that he spends all his time with? Game planning? Passion? Pass rush? Turnovers? Adjustments? Anything? Anything at all? Bowles should go back to coaching a secondary somewhere else. Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 53 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I remember early in his coaching career pretty much everyone thought he was in way over his head, was one of the poorer HCs in the league, with an admittedly aging Favre,. But with ARodgers now he's someone we should trade for. While with Rodgers his team struggles at least as much as ours. Thank you !!!! Ummmm folks can't see this!!! What does anyone think our record would be with Aaron Rogers at the helm? And before some say anything stupid no it wouldn't be the same! Guys play harder when you have a quality QB under center which makes the Packers situation all the more troubling!!!! Come on Guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 How 'bout we take Rodgers and they can keep McCarthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, RoadFan said: I mentioned this a few weeks ago. A handful of you saw it but mostly got "no way Green Bay fires him." Well, something is stinky and moldy in Cheeseland. Like Camembert bad. There are rumblings that the relationship between McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers is souring. Clearly, Rodgers ain't going nowhere. Experienced. Respected. No nonsense. Offensive-minded. Perfect. So we want the guy who couldn't win or get along with Rodgers then got fired? He'll do better here.....with Petty. And Hack? Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 11 minutes ago, RoadFan said: He has been given a chance. Bowles has made indefensible decisions. Completely devoid of any logic whatsoever. Then he says he would make the same choices again. He admitted to having little interest in the offense. So, all he does is coach defense. What encouraging signs have you seen from this defense that he spends all his time with? Game planning? Passion? Pass rush? Turnovers? Adjustments? Anything? Anything at all? Bowles should go back to coaching a secondary somewhere else. Oh wait... We have no idea how many indefensible decisions any other coach makes. McCarthy is having a worse season than Bowles, by far. But we should trade for him? Im not arguing that he has done a good job this season. I will argue he got it done a year ago. Patience is needed right now, no one is firing a HC after 2 seasons, one of which was a 10 win season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 1 hour ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: They won't fire him, but if they did he'd be a great hire. Marrone would also be a good choice because he wouldn't stand for the crap that Mo and Revis have done this season. Yeah, a tough guy coach would stop Revis from getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 28 minutes ago, Gas2No99 said: This is what that schmuck Kay said on his radio show today. He went on a rant about this conspiracy theory and how the public character assassination of Marrone was an affront to "journalistic integrity" (RIP Gwen Ifil). The way he presented the facts about Marrone bailing Buffalo b/c he had a "SURE THING" w/the Jets made sense. What he said, and you stated the same, was that Marrone was Mac's initial choice prior to Bowles. That was NEWS to ME! I thought Bowles was Mac's original guy, so does one infer that Mac was overridden by Johnson or The Consultants: Cass & Wolf and had to acquiesce to Bowles?? Marrone is currently the OL Coach on a soon-to-be-replaced Jax staff. I thought Bowles was hired by Case and Wolf a day or so ahead of Macc and Bowles hire waited a day for Macc to sign off on it. Don't remember Bowles being interviewed by Macc first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 33 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: Marrone already interviewed poorly for Woody, why would Woody go back to that well? Says who? But this is irrelevant as Bowles will be back next year and should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 ABB: Anyone But Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 29 minutes ago, Warfish said: So we want the guy who couldn't win or get along with Rodgers then got fired? He'll do better here.....with Petty. And Hack? Ok. Yeah we should stick with a noodle-arm qb and a noodle-brain head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 4 minutes ago, drdetroit said: 32 minutes ago, Warfish said: So we want the guy who couldn't win or get along with Rodgers then got fired? He'll do better here.....with Petty. And Hack? Ok. Yeah we should stick with a noodle-arm qb and a noodle-brain head coach. Who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 6 minutes ago, Warfish said: Who said that? You realize there's 1% chance Petty is our starting QB next year? And I'm being generous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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