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Buccaneers agree to deal with free-agent Ryan Fitzpatrick

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40 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

He made 3.5 in 2015 his best season. So you can figure that into the equation too. He got the 12 mil based on 2015. It's low starting Qb money and only one year. 

The point is, he would've been better off in the long run by taking Mac's original offer last Spring.

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5 hours ago, HighPitch said:

Youre nuts. With mitchell doing well, glennon might be ours next year

God NO!!! Glennon never was ans never will be a "starting caliber" qb in this league. Sorry

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2 hours ago, Tinstar said:

Why can't folks understand that the Jets front office didn't want Fitzpatrick back, but couldn't flat out get rid of him after the season he had but was hoping he would price himself off the team . The guy was a starting QB coming off a record setting season and settled for backup money forcing the Jets to sign him because they didn't have the clout to not sign him and endure a losing season .   

Jesus....I'm glad someone else FINALLY understand this besides me. 

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When Jameis gets hurt and Mike Evan decides that he is "Going down in the boat" with Ryan Fitzpatrick.

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6 hours ago, KRL said:

One of my most "unlikable" Jets.  Someone who was a product of the OC and two big time WR's deludes

himself into thinking he's "all that" and takes a victory lap after crapping the bed at the end of 2015.

Good riddance

Only the best season of quarterback play since Joe Namath, but who's counting facts. 

SAR I

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19 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

 

What the **** kind of delusional sh*t is this?  

1.  I guess the Jets front office does not include the head coach who announced Fitzpatrick as starter when he was a free agent.

2.  Since when is $12M back-up money?  He did price himself off the team and they ******* paid him anyway! The guy is a $3-4M per QB.  He has proven it again and again, contract after contract.  These ******* morons paid him for 4 years worth because they HAD to have him because... RECORDS!  

******* insanity.

nobody said it was smart, it's just real

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FItz raped both the Bills and Jets for like a gazillion bucks fell flat on his face both times after collecting and still has a job where he sits down on Sundays and gets paid 3 million.

What a life. Gotta be good to be him.

 

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4 minutes ago, jetspenguin said:

nobody said it was smart, it's just real

You keep keeping it real.  

I repeat my prior comment.  ******* insanity.  It is rampant around here.

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It's time for..

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and look he got paid more than Geno

Good chance Geno flipping burgers after Giants cut him too

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1 hour ago, jetrider said:

 

 

So for 2016-2017 he's basically taking $7.5M per year 

 

59 minutes ago, jetrider said:

The point is, he would've been better off in the long run by taking Mac's original offer last Spring.

I think the Jets contract was more complicated than that.  I believe it was $24mm, with $16mm guaranteed (8/4/4) and playing time incentives.

So theoretically he ends up with more in 2016-17 than the Jets would have guaranteed him, given how he played last year and the goal to play Hack and Petty more.

Based on 2015 Macc had a good plan for Fitz and reflected the common understanding that Fitz would return to the mean.   It was a fair deal for Fitz too.  Fitz held the Jets up, someone at the Jets caved, and both sides ended up with a bad deal.

 

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43 minutes ago, SAR I said:

Only the best season of quarterback play since Joe Namath, but who's counting facts. 

SAR I

that is 100% incorrect, the best single season for a QB in Jets history was Vinny 1998 then Chad 2002.  Fitz 2015 had nice #s but he was carried by great WRs, he wasn't even as good as Sanchez 2010 who actually made plays in big spots to win games including playoff games.

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1 hour ago, jetspenguin said:

clearly stated by someone who has never served and doesnt understand just how much the military impacts their everyday life. 

exactly. 

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So not reading what is almost surely a cesspool of a thread.

Anyone know what the terms of Fitz's Tampa deal is yet?

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7 hours ago, KRL said:

Worst move Maccagnan/Bowles made was allowing Fitzpatrick to hijack the whole off-season.  They 

should've set a hard date for him to sign and if he refused move on to Geno

True KRL, but it didn't help that Bowles anointed Fitz the starter BEFORE he was signed.  I imagine Woody had a hand in this, believing Fitz was better than he was and wanted him back to try and sell playoff tickets..

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10 minutes ago, Jetdawgg said:

Most civilians on the boards say things about "dishonoring the military". A great deal of "military" folks have had to educate Americans about the rights that Mr. Kaepernick has as an American. Many veterans have stood up for his rights, even veterans that don't agree with his performance.

Kaepernick himself has stated on video that his performance is aimed at the injustices that America has towards many other Americans. He clearly stated it is not against the military.  It is the everyday American that continues to rant that his stance is against the military. It does not have any factual content at all.

i agree with you that the flag stands for the nation, our country, America.

i disagree with you that the troops are "over-honored". If you had to ever spend even one night in a hostile country, I am quite sure that you would have a different thought about that. The USA is the world's leading super power because of Men and Women, like myself who wrote a check to the government to give up to our life to get the nation to be the world's leading superpower.

You sleep well at night because of that alone. Since you see too much honoring of our troops, would you prefer that we get dis honored like when I was spit at and called a baby killer? That  plays pretty well doesn't it? The truth is there is not enough done for those who serve this nation, ready to fight in foreign lands. Fight and die for Americans like you. Whether you appreciate that or not.

Those other professions you mentioned are excellent professions too. Yet they are never asked to go into foreign lands and put their life on the line. They get to go home at night.

i just wonder how you would feel if you had to stand 'fire watch' (guard) just one night in a hostile nation where an enemy can pierce your skin with a long range projectile. Or use a mortar, missile or rocket attack to do the same? 

There is no doubt that we should be honored. Men and Women like me have made this nation strong. 

I do not know of many troops who think that we have a constitutional right to be honored. I am not sure where you were able to obtain that data.

I would like for you to visit the local VA Medical Center. Go visit the Men and Women who have lost limbs, lost their minds. Had their skin seered off and  tell them that they are honored too much. 

At the start of the Iraq War I was in the ATL and saw a woman with her hand melted off. At the VAMC in NY, I saw a Marine with both legs blown off. I looked at that Marine and his look back to me told me that he was ok with his existence. 

How can you be ok with yours?

I am not here to get in a political debate. I said what I meant and your post backs up the sentiment I see often that you feel that you are entitled to be honored, and are somehow more valuable than anyone that hasn't.. Fine, You can believe that, but my statements are not anti-military I do believe that service men and women deserve respect, admiration and special treatment in many cases for what they are put through by the leaders of the nations of the world, But your service to society is no greater nor more admirable than other people that put themselves in the service of others. 

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1 minute ago, CanadaSteve said:

True KRL, but it didn't help that Bowles anointed Fitz the starter BEFORE he was signed.  I imagine Woody had a hand in this, believing Fitz was better than he was and wanted him back to try and sell playoff tickets..

Here's the problem I have with the entire thing. Any half decent coach, GM or armchair analyst could look at tape of Fitz from his "great" year and realize that it was completely smoke and mirrors and quite a bit of luck. He was horrible, and for Bowles to even want him back is mind boggling.

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20 minutes ago, Warfish said:

No, mate, you really don't.

What you refuse to accept, for IMO obvious reasons of bias, is that everyone understands Kap's right to express his socio-political viewpoint.

No one denies him that right.  No one.

What people object to are:

1. The venue.  The workplace, for 99.99% of Americans, is NOT the place to express socio-political protest and opinion.  Most of us get fired for doing it.  And damn few of us want a side dose of controversial race-based politics in our sports entertainment.  Most just want football and the escape entertainment brings us from our daily lives.

2. The target.  The Country (personified in the Flag and anthem) did not kill black people in the situations being protested, rightfully or wrongfully.  Individual Cops in specific individual circumstances did.  Targeting the Nation as a whole is a form of blaming everyone for something they had no part in.  Protest the Cops, or police agencies if you must.  Do not protest all of us, that's a form of stereotyping.

3. The content.  Plenty of people think his argument, and that of BLM and their ilk, are in part of in whole full of sh*t.  That the circumstances of the issues are not as clear cut or one sided as portrayed.  This is a disagreement of content, a lack of support based on the argument itself.  

Be assured, OTHER Americans have every right to hold these objections and to express those objections, the same way Kap has a right to express his opinions.  In BOTH cases, expression of those opinions, like any opinions, may come with repercussions from society at large.  A Nazi ****stick is, rightfully, excluded and ostracized from society for expressing their opinions.  Kap, in a similar vein, is not immune to societal repercussions for what he says, does and believes.

A lot of what you have here is stereotyped. 

I have dealt with people all over the nation and outside the nation too about this. Even on this board it has been stated he is against the military. Clearly some more education is required.

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Certain people said not to resign Fitzpatrick but that was the unpopular opinion because he had a good year the season prior. The right (albeit unpopular) decision was to move on from Fitzpatrick and sign a another QB (Hoyer for example) and let him Geno and Petty compete for the job. But this organization allowed fan and media pressure to sway them into keeping Fitzpatrick. But the silver lining is at least his supporters have no excuses, because had we not signed him and we went 5-11, we'd be hearing about how we are losing because we didn't have Fitzpatrick. 

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