JetNation Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Jets linebacker Darron Lee has earned the lowest grade among Jets defensive starters at 31.9. It’s not something you’d expect to see from a team that has spent almost all of their first round draft capital on defensive players for the past decade with a “defensive genius” for a head coach, but the results are what they are. Pro Football Focus, a web site tasked with watching and grading the performance of every NFL player on every single snap of the season says that after six games, the Jets team defensive grade ranks 32nd our of 32 NFL teams. While PFF’s methods are hardly scientific, they are at the very least, a good guide in determining roughly how well a player is performing. Jets fans didn’t need PFF to tell them that the Jets defense has been bad, but 32 out of 32 on any list may have come as a bit of a shock. In their summary of Gang Green, PFF had this to say: 32. NEW YORK JETS BEST-GRADED STARTER: Kony Ealy, Edge, 82.4 WORST-GRADED: Darron Lee, LB, 31.9 When the team’s best player is struggling (Leonard Williams), you know things are not going well. Williams and Wilkerson have turned what should have been the team’s strength into a weakness, with their front unable to stand up to teams in the run or pass game. There has been some talent in the secondary, but the front seven hasn’t been able to protect them nearly enough. As they often say on offense or defense in the NFL, “it all starts up front”. That’s bad news for the Jets as they’ve yet to register a sack on the defensive line, and the unit as a whole has just seven on the season, 31st in the NFL. If this group is going to pull itself out of the bottom of the barrel, Todd Bowles will have to find a way to convince Muhammad Wilkerson to start trying again, which should free up Leonard Williams from the many double-teams he’s seeing for the time being. Is Bowles up to the task? History tells us he is not, but only time will tell. Click here to read the full story... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Imagine how good we could be if we spent some of those picks on offense instead. What a bunch of dogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 it's hard to believe the jets d graded worse than a team like indy, which gives up 32.5 ppg compared to 21.7 for the jets. also, NE leads the nfl giving up 440 yards per game, compared to 358 for the jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Lee had a Lower rating than Mo Wow! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetscrazey Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 I've said it before, Lee is not an ILB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 37 minutes ago, JetNation said: Pro Football Focus, a web site tasked with watching and grading the performance of every NFL player on every single snap of the season says that after six games, the Jets team defensive grade ranks 32nd our of 32 NFL teams. But hey, that's pretty impressive once you realize that at the start of the season we were projected to be ranked 40th out of 32 NFL teams. #OverachievingExpectations #Learning2Win #StillInPlayoffHunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Who is the "defensive genius"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Bowles is not an NFL head coach. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Lee had a Lower rating than Mo Wow! Yeah, but he's REALLY come on the last couple games, hasn't he? #UCan'tTeachThatKindaSpeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 But they are all playing great and are close to getting to the QB. I could not stand Rex for about the last 3 years he was here but I'd take him 10 out of 10 times over Bowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 45 minutes ago, JetNation said: It’s not something you’d expect to see from a team that has spent almost all of their first round draft capital on defensive players for the past decade with a “defensive genius” for a head coach, but the results are what they are. Knock Bowles all you want, but typing that sentence without putting Macc's name in it is unfair. I get that you like Macc better than Bowles. But Macc signed Wilk. Macc drafted Lee. So your quotes should also include something about Macc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, shuler82 said: Bowles is not an NFL head coach. Period. Y won't Macc giv Bowles gud playerz? This is EXACTLY what Tanny and Idzik did to Rex. Another great, victimized head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Beerfish said: But they are all playing great and are close to getting to the QB. I could not stand Rex for about the last 3 years he was here but I'd take him 10 out of 10 times over Bowles. Rex as a DC > Bowles Rex as a HC = Bowles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Knock Bowles all you want, but typing that sentence without putting Macc's name in it is unfair. I get that you like Macc better than Bowles. But Macc signed Wilk. Macc drafted Lee. So your quotes should also include something about Macc. You are correct but the fact is that the jets have invested almost everything on defense over the years and it if falling on its ass badly. The defense of this team should be top 10 and carrying the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Maxman said: Knock Bowles all you want, but typing that sentence without putting Macc's name in it is unfair. I get that you like Macc better than Bowles. But Macc signed Wilk. Macc drafted Lee. So your quotes should also include something about Macc. I don't know why people can't just agree that they have both been responsible for the team's failures here during the tenure. It's like people are predisposed to picking sides and creating more fractures that drive each other apart. It's really quite sad, to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 24 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: Yeah, but he's REALLY come on the last couple games, hasn't he? #UCan'tTeachThatKindaSpeed Clyde Gates says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 16 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said: I don't know why people can't just agree that they have both been responsible for the team's failures here during the tenure. It's like people are predisposed to picking sides and creating more fractures that drive each other apart. It's really quite sad, to be honest. Nothing can drive me away from you. That said, the Jets defense, is bad. Very bad. All the high pick investments and their best players are by far Ealy who they got off waivers and Clairborne on a 1 year deal they picked up in FA. That too, is bad. I dont believe for one second that Todd doesn't heavily influence the draft. Otherwise, Lee and the double down safety picks make zero sense. So they both suck equally IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 based on the eye test looked no worse than 31st....... stellar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 the article makes little sense. on sunday this 32nd ranked defense held brady to a qbr of around 80. in case anyone is keeping score, 75 or so is average. moreover, they are at least in the upper half for points and yardage allowed. i think the problem with this alleged rating is that it is an average of individual players but does not take into account that a players may whiff on a play but the next guy a great play. this is what teams are all about. and you know what? let the other teams keep thinking the jet defense is 32nd in the league. won't they be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 If folks think that the Jets are not playing good defensive football they are nuts. The Jets just finished playing in a game with one of the most powerful offensive teams in the NFL, held them close, almost beat them despite blatant referee interference, and have kept us close in every game. Those are not the markers of a bad defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: If folks think that the Jets are not playing good defensive football they are nuts. The Jets just finished playing in a game with one of the most powerful offensive teams in the NFL, held them close, almost beat them despite blatant referee interference, and have kept us close in every game. Those are not the markers of a bad defense. Just for accuracy sake, Tampa held the Pats to 19 and the Raiders game did not come within several miles of "close." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, BurnleyJet said: Clyde Gates says hi. Our coaches just didn't know how to utilize Clyde properly. They shoulda schemed him to be undefended every single play. Idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoot-Face Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, JiF said: Nothing can drive me away from you. That said, the Jets defense, is bad. Very bad. All the high pick investments and their best players are by far Ealy who they got off waivers and Clairborne on a 1 year deal they picked up in FA. That too, is bad. I dont believe for one second that Todd doesn't heavily influence the draft. Otherwise, Lee and the double down safety picks make zero sense. So they both suck equally IMO <3 Well said. We are, like, so in sync. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 This is an average of the players. There are some really low rated players who are compensated by players that are playing well. Its best player was picked up on last day waivers, but Bowles is obviously coaching them up. The better measure of this defense their overall ranking, which ain't great either-top of the bottom third or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said: Just for accuracy sake, Tampa held the Pats to 19 and the Raiders game did not come within several miles of "close." Just for further accuracy sake, Gronkowski did not play in the Tampa Bay game. Just a little more, Tom Brady was 20 of 38 for 52% completion. 257 yards, his lowest for the season so far. He threw 2 TDs and had 1 pick, and 1 pick dropped. 27 points scored by the #1 offense in the NFL by far which was aided by a PI call that put the Pats in the red zone. I know I posted this several times but just in case anyone missed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 19 minutes ago, RESNewYork said: Just for further accuracy sake, Gronkowski did not play in the Tampa Bay game. Just a little more, Tom Brady was 20 of 38 for 52% completion. 257 yards, his lowest for the season so far. He threw 2 TDs and had 1 pick, and 1 pick dropped. 27 points scored by the #1 offense in the NFL by far which was aided by a PI call that put the Pats in the red zone. I know I posted this several times but just in case anyone missed it I think the Board is on agreement on this. The Jets defense underachieves for all of the talent and coaching applied to it, but it is not the worst defense in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Surplus draft equity + Kacey & Bo-Bo = This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, JiF said: Nothing can drive me away from you. That said, the Jets defense, is bad. Very bad. All the high pick investments and their best players are by far Ealy who they got off waivers and Clairborne on a 1 year deal they picked up in FA. That too, is bad. I dont believe for one second that Todd doesn't heavily influence the draft. Otherwise, Lee and the double down safety picks make zero sense. So they both suck equally IMO This. If the emerging narrative is going to again be that the coach doesn’t influence the draft, then everything in dopeyville will have come full circle... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: I don't know why people can't just agree that they have both been responsible for the team's failures here during the tenure. It's like people are predisposed to picking sides and creating more fractures that drive each other apart. It's really quite sad, to be honest. Unintelligent masses rely on polarity for feelings of belonging, comfort and the ease of knowing all the rhetoric. Look at politics. Or religion. Or Apple vs PC. Or Coke vs Pepsi. In the wise words of Mrs. Potts, it’s a tale as old as time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Spoot-Face said: Rex as a DC > Bowles Rex as a HC = Bowles They are exactly the same as HC. I said so after Bowles year 1. The only difference is Bowles mumbles, while Rex bumbles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: You are correct but the fact is that the jets have invested almost everything on defense over the years and it if falling on its ass badly. The defense of this team should be top 10 and carrying the team. The Jets are 3 and 3 in a year that they were supposed to win 0 games. The defense has been playing bend but don't break and has been pretty good for the most part. I think the defensive coaches have had a really good plan together, McCown is the QB so we know the offense won't carry the team. PFF grades are what they are. Completely accurate not being one of the things that they are. Another criticism of Macc's drafts is that Morris Claiborne is the best CB on this team. Great signing. But once he gets hurt they need some help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Pretty pathetic that our best defensive player was a Preseason cut by Belichick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: They are exactly the same as HC. I said so after Bowles year 1. The only difference is Bowles mumbles, while Rex bumbles. Bowles makes Rex look like Lombardi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RESNewYork Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Philc1 said: Pretty pathetic that our best defensive player was a Preseason cut by Belichick Says who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.