BroadwayJ667 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I see your point...realize fans expectation could play a role...but the damage is most likely already done...since he was drafted the lack of competition for the QB position has created a sense of entitlement...its always been his job now and for the future...surprised the FO "doubled down" instead of fostering real competition... And I can understand that sentiment. I would be more concerned about it though if he wasn't (from the outside looking in) doing everything possible to get better. I read enough things to convince myself that he wants to be the best and is doing everything necessary to win a super bowl. I would love for Mark to have the sexy stats so I can throw it in the faces of the fans of other teams, but he doesn't do that. He wins more than he loses. That's what makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 That could almost be the Jets slogan. The New York (really New Jersey) Jets "There's Always Next Year" The Cubs already copyrighted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I would have rather have signed Quinn than Stanton but at least that's one question that is settled. Now for a WR and Safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Simple. He didn't want to be a Jet. This. Manning has spurned the Jets twice. He clearly has a low regard for the franchise. Smart guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Just saw this picture **** Quinn. I forgot about this picture. Errr maybe Stanton's not such a bad signing after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTJ06 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 No one was coming here to "compete" when Sanchez just got 20.5 guaranteed. That's where the failure was. Peyton F. Mannng wants 5 for 60.... and we give Sanchez 5 for 50? Come on. Why in gods name is PFM not wearing Green. Peyton Manning - QB - Colts Updating an earlier item, the Denver Post's Mike Klis reports the parameters of free agent Peyton Manning's next contract will resemble those of the five-year, $90 million pact he signed with the Colts in 2011. Klis had previously reported both the Broncos and Titans were working within a five-year, $60 million framework. Denver, Tennessee and San Francisco are all now believed to be "working off" the contract Manning recently had voided by the Colts. Source: Mike Klis on Twitter Mike Klis@MikeKlis My previously reported contract parameters for P. Manning were too low. Broncos, Titans, 49ers working off his old five-year, $90 mil deal https://twitter.com/...735568022482944 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 the Jets really missed the boat this off-season when it comes to the QB position...and it's not a knock because Manning is not here. Forget Manning. What kind of competition will Stanton be???? I just don't get it. The Sanchez extension was completely unnecessary...and they should have brought in Kyle Orton to compete for the starting spot. Kyle Orton, right now, is worlds better than Sanchez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Well this should improve the company softball team if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 the Jets really missed the boat this off-season when it comes to the QB position...and it's not a knock because Manning is not here. Forget Manning. What kind of competition will Stanton be???? I just don't get it. The Sanchez extension was completely unnecessary...and they should have brought in Kyle Orton to compete for the starting spot. Kyle Orton, right now, is worlds better than Sanchez. Whens the last time an Orton led team went to the Playoffs. Dont worry I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I think he's better than Quinn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Neither Quinn nor Stanton are capable of 'pushing' Sanchez. But the Jets are probably smart to devote their limited resources to other areas of need such as Safety (safeties?), RT, WR and linebacker. I don't know what Campbell or Henne got, but I guess it was much more than the Jets felt they could afford considering their other pressing needs. Though they probably didn't want to 'push' Sanchez too hard in any event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Fine with me, it's certainly better than having a washed-up old man back there. I agree Especially since the wounded, Washed up old man is going to get like a 90 million contract and not finish the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Whens the last time an Orton led team went to the Playoffs. Dont worry I'll wait. Orton is a better QB...if you think otherwise you're a fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 tanny always brings in a QB every off season, he learned it from ron wolfe he may even draft one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Orton is a better QB...if you think otherwise you're a fool What difference does it make? I have no idea why anyone thinks having some mediocre nobody like Orton or Garrard compete with Sanchez would do sh*t for this team. All having a mediocre quarterback gets you is the fear of giving him up because it could be worse, while being guaranteed to win absolutely nothing (see: Pennington's 8-year Jets career). If the Jets were going to bring in some real competition for Sanchez, then it needed to a player who has some career upside, to make him taking over Sanchez actually being worth a damn. A guy like Flynn would have been an option that fit that mold, but that went right down the sh*tter the second he put on that week 17 performance and earned himself a nice fat contract. They're better off sticking with Sanchez and keeping their fingers crossed then handing the job to (or even bring in for competition) a proven JAG who everyone already knows is the best he'll ever be, which isn't particularly good. The only other option would have been to bring in a guy who was a legit starter to take the job and then boot Sanchez to the curb (as they would have if they signed Peyton). The second they signed Sanchez to that contract extension, all of that went away and this was Sanchez's job for at least the next year or two. There was going to be no competition this year, so why would the Jets even bother pretending there would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Orton is a better QB...if you think otherwise you're a fool Look at his stats last season. Not so impressive. Completion percentage is 60% but thats really all that jumps out. The guy throws a pick for every TD he throws. He also lost his job to Tebow in Denver. Sanchez is the better QB like it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Look at his stats last season. Not so impressive. Completion percentage is 60% but thats really all that jumps out. The guy throws a pick for every TD he throws. He also lost his job to Tebow in Denver. Sanchez is the better QB like it or not. I just don't see how Stanton will give him any competition whatsoever, he poses no threat. A more experienced guy like Orton on the other hand definitely would drive Sanchez to work harder. The combo of Sanchez/Orton looks much better than Sanchez/Stanton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanBe_Tweetin Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I just don't see how Stanton will give him any competition whatsoever, he poses no threat. A more experienced guy like Orton on the other hand definitely would drive Sanchez to work harder. The combo of Sanchez/Orton looks much better than Sanchez/Stanton Orton's definitely better than Staton no question about that. But Bleedin Green is right, the Jets just signed Sanchez to a 3 year extension so he's the guy at least for the next year or two, so why should the Jets pretend he might lose his job to Orton when he obviously won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If Sanchez starts off 4 for 12 with a pick, Rex doesn't even have the option of thinking about pulling Sanchez now. If it's a big division game against New England and Mark is in the middle of one of his meltdowns, Rex just has to eat it. Tough spot there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If Sanchez starts off 4 for 12 with a pick, Rex doesn't even have the option of thinking about pulling Sanchez now. If it's a big division game against New England and Mark is in the middle of one of his meltdowns, Rex just has to eat it. Tough spot there. Wildcat!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Orton's definitely better than Staton no question about that. But Bleedin Green is right, the Jets just signed Sanchez to a 3 year extension so he's the guy at least for the next year or two, so why should the Jets pretend he might lose his job to Orton when he obviously won't. I realize Sanchez is the guy...I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with a little competition in camp. A guy like Orton would have provided that...not Stanton. The Jets will have to live or die with Sanchez... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I realize Sanchez is the guy...I'm just saying there's nothing wrong with a little competition in camp. A guy like Orton would have provided that...not Stanton. The Jets will have to live or die with Sanchez... And then what happens if there is a QB controversy? The season is lost soon than last year. I appreciate competition, but QB competition doesn't quite work the same as i does at other positions. At least not in the pros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKwaz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Would you guys rather have a starting safety or a backup QB? Because if we got a guy like Orton it would cost us money that could be well spent elsewhere. I will take Stanton and possibly Reggie Nelson over Orton anyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If Sanchez starts off 4 for 12 with a pick, Rex doesn't even have the option of thinking about pulling Sanchez now. If it's a big division game against New England and Mark is in the middle of one of his meltdowns, Rex just has to eat it. Tough spot there. you're assuming he's aware of what's going on with the offense that would be progress Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Not as handsome as Quinn but that whatevs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 who is this guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If Sanchez starts off 4 for 12 with a pick, Rex doesn't even have the option of thinking about pulling Sanchez now. If it's a big division game against New England and Mark is in the middle of one of his meltdowns, Rex just has to eat it. Tough spot there. I dunno. You'd think he'd be used to it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 who is this guy? He's a useless ****. I had Pettigrew two season in a row in FF and watch every Detroit game and I have know idea why they would sign Stanton he's ******* awful. He had Johnson and Pettigrew to throw to with a solid line and running game and was completely lost. He won't beat Mc for the #2 spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 By the way, this move is the strongest evidence yet that we're rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 If Sanchez starts off 4 for 12 with a pick, Rex doesn't even have the option of thinking about pulling Sanchez now. If it's a big division game against New England and Mark is in the middle of one of his meltdowns, Rex just has to eat it. Tough spot there. This. It's not about competition, it's about protection from Sanchez nose-diving the season if the defense is playing great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 He won't beat Mc for the #2 spot I think the Jets will be good with that outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 So, just so that we are clear, behind Mark Sanchez, and should he get hurt, the current Jet who threw the most NFL passes last year is in fact Jeremy Kerley... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GimmeShelter Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I just don't see how Stanton will give him any competition whatsoever, he poses no threat. A more experienced guy like Orton on the other hand definitely would drive Sanchez to work harder. The combo of Sanchez/Orton looks much better than Sanchez/Stanton There never was going to be this "competition" thing with Sanchez. Just because impatient fans want to throw in the towel on their QB after 3 seasons doesn't mean the Jets FO does. Manning was the exception as he should have been for around 20 teams across the NFL. If Sanchez has a season that is as bad as he was down the stretch last season the team will move on in 2013 guaranteed contract or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I guess you guys are all correct...the idea of one athlete competing against another athlete in professional sports is preposterous. What was I thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJ667 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I guess you guys are all correct...the idea of one athlete competing against another athlete in professional sports is preposterous. What was I thinking? Then lets follow that logic. If competition is good then if the Titans sign Peyton Manning they should also keep Matt Hasselbeck, because then they will get the best out of Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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