Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 As per Schefter/ESPN Radio this morning, Sam Bradford is out for the year with an ACL tear. Kellen Clemens is the only QB on the roster, and is of course familiar with Brian Schottenheimer's offense. Can we trade them Brady Quinn for a conditional 7th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Tebow in 3....2......1 TEBOW TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Tebow in 3....2......1 TEBOW TIME!!!!!!!!!!! I was thinking Matt Hasselbeck being asked to come out of retirement, due to his familiarity with Fisher. But for at least 1 week I imagine Clemens gets the nod. EDIT: Just realized Hasselbeck is Andrew Luck's backup. Who knew? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was thinking Matt Hasselbeck being asked to come out of retirement, due to his familiarity with Fisher. But for at least 1 week I imagine Clemens gets the nod. Hasselbeck is backing up Andrew Luck in Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 Hasselbeck is backing up Andrew Luck in Indy. Yep, just realized that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 21, 2013 Author Share Posted October 21, 2013 I imagine for starters the Rams will bring back Austin Davis, who was on their roster previously but then cut. But Clemens might, sadly, be better than any QB on the market. They'll have to make a trade if they want to salvage their season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. Schotty will ruin his HOF career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I'm starting to get mixed up between Kellen Clemens and McElory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ylekram Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 I was thinking Matt Hasselbeck being asked to come out of retirement, due to his familiarity with Fisher. But for at least 1 week I imagine Clemens gets the nod. EDIT: Just realized Hasselbeck is Andrew Luck's backup. Who knew? they are going to have to pick up a qb regardless. I heard Clemens is the only qb currently on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. I approve of this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 But Clemens might, sadly, be better than any QB on the market. That's why Chad is coming out of retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Good, I was getting tired of streaming defenses that play the Jets and Jaguars every week in fantasy football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Trade them Garrard to be player/coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. Beat me to that one Edwards.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetscode1 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Fantasy football note: Play Seattle's DST in week 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJ Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. Brian the Brain would taint Simms into a check down chump. Would like the kid to get a real chance somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Tebow in 3....2......1 TEBOW TIME!!!!!!!!!!! Tebow + Schottenheimer = A sh*t show of monumental proportions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Tebow + Schottenheimer = A sh*t show of monumental proportions. sh*tapacolypse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ron Jaworski is fapping feverishly somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Ron Jaworski is fapping feverishly somewhere. If you think about it, he wasn't that far off when he said Clemens would be the best QB in that draft. Other than Cutler, who's had a better career than Clemens? Young and Leinart are both out of the league right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 That's true. There's a big dropoff between first and second round in terms of QB success. Most starting QB's are first rounders. Of the QB's who had great success despite going in the second round: Montana, Favre, Brees and Esiason-all but Montana were widely considered likely to go in the first round-they just slipped down a little. And Brees was the first player taken in the second round. Clemens came at it from the other side. Instead of being a possible first rounder who slipped down, he was considered an outsider who conceivably might go as high as the third round, but nobody would be shocked if he went down to the fifth round or lower. Yet outside of Cutler, Clemens turned out to be the last guy still standing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Whats Clemens saying to himself right now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 man...do I pity the Rams fans right about now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted October 21, 2013 Share Posted October 21, 2013 Quinn to the Rams? Clemens is probably better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 See how good Fisher thinks they are, and how desperate they are to prove they're winners: dangle Matt Simms to them for a 3rd or 4th based on his (almost) Ratliff-level performance. C'mon sperm, if you trade Simms...then who is gonna take us thru the playoffs if Geno goes down? Serious question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 God bless them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 C'mon sperm, if you trade Simms...then who is gonna take us thru the playoffs if Geno goes down? Serious question David Garrard No one is offering us a mid-round pick for Simms, but the first one who does - during a temporary bout of extreme brain damage - gets him. Look at it another way. Pretend the Jet right now didn't have Matt Simms, but we do have two 3rd round picks next year. You're telling me that GM Stugotz81 would trade away one of our 3rd round picks next year for 8 games of Matt Simms (an undrafted player, who the team cut just last year, and who still has never taken a snap against NFL starters) as the team's backup QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 David Garrard No one is offering us a mid-round pick for Simms, but the first one who does - during a temporary bout of extreme brain damage - gets him. Look at it another way. Pretend the Jet right now didn't have Matt Simms, but we do have two 3rd round picks next year. You're telling me that GM Stugotz81 would trade away one of our 3rd round picks next year for 8 games of Matt Simms (an undrafted player, who the team cut just last year, and who still has never taken a snap against NFL starters) as the team's backup QB? Trust me here Sperm, I am all on board with the Geno train now....but Simms was my first love so its hard to think of us separating so soon. And Sperm, if I was GM....we would of had Simms and Spadola starting after week 2 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 And Sperm, if I was GM....we would of had Simms and Spadola starting after week 2 lol And we'd be 6-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 And we'd be 6-1. obviously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 obviously You're both wrong. We'd be 8-0 after these first 7 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Trust me here Sperm, I am all on board with the Geno train now....but Simms was my first love so its hard to think of us separating so soon. And Sperm, if I was GM....we would of had Simms and Spadola starting after week 2 lol My point is by turning down a trade like that, you're effectively making that trade. If the Rams (or anyone) was willing to fork over a 3rd round pick - never mind that this is impossible - then turning down that trade is the same as trading a 3rd rounder for Simms. Worse still, the reason you outlined, for surrendering a 3rd or 4th round pick, was so he could be Geno's backup QB for the remainder of the season. The Revis trade was a good example. If we didn't trade him away, that's the same as trading away a #13 overall pick and high 3rd round pick next year, so we could have Revis for 1 more season before he hits free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted October 22, 2013 Author Share Posted October 22, 2013 My point is by turning down a trade like that, you're effectively making that trade. If the Rams (or anyone) was willing to fork over a 3rd round pick - never mind that this is impossible - then turning down that trade is the same as trading a 3rd rounder for Simms. Worse still, the reason you outlined, for surrendering a 3rd or 4th round pick, was so he could be Geno's backup QB for the remainder of the season. The Revis trade was a good example. If we didn't trade him away, that's the same as trading away a #13 overall pick and high 3rd round next year, so we could have Revis for 1 more season before he hits free agency. Well in that case when it comes to trading Simms you have to look at it in reverse, from the Rams perspective. If you're the Rams, with Kellen Clemens as your only QB on the roster, what are you giving up to get Simms? Probably no more than a 6th. They're 3-4 in a very difficult division. They probably would not have been going anywhere even with a healthy Bradford. Apeasing the fans by going out and just getting any QB for a mid-round pick just to get one isn't a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted October 22, 2013 Share Posted October 22, 2013 Well in that case when it comes to trading Simms you have to look at it in reverse, from the Rams perspective. If you're the Rams, with Kellen Clemens as your only QB on the roster, what are you giving up to get Simms? Probably no more than a 6th. They're 3-4 in a very difficult division. They probably would not have been going anywhere even with a healthy Bradford. Apeasing the fans by going out and just getting any QB for a mid-round pick just to get one isn't a good idea. Agree, but if I'm Idzik that doesn't stop me from dangling him. For a 6th? I'd probably keep him, seeing as how he showed enough for me to like him as much as any QB we're likely to get in the 6th round to fill a 2nd-3rd QB roster spot. We have enough picks to bypass a 6th rounder. There aren't going to be enough roster spots to keep all 12 picks we have as it is. If we really needed the extra 6th round pick that badly, then trade down 5 slots in round 3. He isn't going to garner a 3rd or 4th. But I could see a 5th in 2015: because of his famous daddy people around the league have probably taken note of him a little more than most other UDFA 2nd/3rd string QBs. Daddy Phil may even help spread the word how good he thinks his kid is. But why do it? Because Bradford pretty much has shown to have been quite unworthy of that #1 overall pick and the old-CBA contract that came along with the pick. So the Rams do get something: they get to see someone else for 8 games that might make cutting Bradford a more obvious move, and save the team $27M in salary from 2014-2015. Also if Simms works out it saves the team from having to use an even higher draft pick to compete with Bradford. There's plenty of reason for them to do it. As much as Bradford probably wasn't taking the team anywhere this year, they have to recognize that wild hopes aside, he's not taking them anywhere next year or the year after that either. There are better uses of his $13-14M/year salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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