Josh McCown shoulder injury-Time is ripe to trade Geno

[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said:

They are trying to develop some young players and Geno, while a moron,  has skills to make some plays. You'd be surprised how few available qbs can do that.

We aren't getting a 1 or a 2, but I could see them giving us a medium/late conditional pick. 

He's also on the last year of his contract. Teams aren't going to pay much at all.

[Powpow]

1 hour ago, Maxman said:

If you are getting a 7th for Geno, pass. I would rather have him if needed.

If you are getting a 3rd for Geno, do it.

That said, you aren't getting a 3rd for Geno.

You're right. Who would get the water?

[jetsons]

8 hours ago, j4jets said:

Teams have been losing their starting QBs left n right this year and we wanna trade our #2 QB? Get real in deed. I get the hate for Geno. It's understandable. A 2nd round rookie could impress you with sh*t for WRs and it was the same in the first half is his 2nd year. Hate him. But this is about the Jets. It's no longer Fitz vs Geno, so the continued hate on a backup Jets QB is pretty lame. It's not like he's making $5 mil and sitting his ass on PUP (good for us anyways). 

Our #2 has been out due to a minor shoulder injury, he should be ready to go very soon.

[Savage69]

9 hours ago, Stark said:

I'd take a 6 for him. 

I'd take a 6 pack for him also..

[shawn306]

10 hours ago, sheastadiumjetfan said:

Can we finally trade Geno for a Browns draft pick?

We've got some leverage.

we've got Petty waiting in the wings.

Cleveland is desperate.

Maybe  4th/5th Rounder to make this trade.

Mac can make this happen.....

No

Again....No one wants Geno Smith

[Ohio State NY Jets fan]

Posada is in the front office playing "money ball", Cleveland has spent the entire offseason cutting experienced vets and collecting draft picks, so tanking the season was always part of the plan

Top 5 draft pick again so they can select a better prospect at QB in 2017 

[EM31]

25 minutes ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Posada is in the front office playing "money ball", Cleveland has spent the entire offseason cutting experienced vets and collecting draft picks, so tanking the season was always part of the plan

Top 5 draft pick again so they can select a better prospect at QB in 2017 

And if they want to get a gild-plated lock on a top-5 pick then Geno is the perfect piece for them.  I am not joking about this.

[Dcat]

9 hours ago, PS17 said:

Are we gonna get the same dopey thread every time an NFL QB goes down?

Newsflash: Geno Smith has zero value. 

it's inevitable.  Fasten your seat belt or don't open the QB injury threads.  

Hey Garoppolo is hurt? no kidding!  ... let's trade Geno to the Patriots!

[faba]

If you think he stinks why would a team trade for him-

[munchmemory]

9 hours ago, SickJetFan said:

Geno is our VD...no cure.

With a side of crabs.

[drdetroit]

Would be funny if someone gave Manziel another shot

[Ohio State NY Jets fan]

28 minutes ago, EM31 said:

And if they want to get a gild-plated lock on a top-5 pick then Geno is the perfect piece for them.  I am not joking about this.

Maybe a player for player trade but it seems like they value draft picks 

[Rangers9]

8 hours ago, j4jets said:

The defenders Petty faced, are out selling Obamacare now. How do we keep forgetting Brett Ratliff?

Funny line and I have no problem with keeping him for the season. But he's going elsewhere next year anyways and if Mac can get a 6th rounder for him (which is doubtful-it'll probably be a 7th round pick) ok. He has almost no value around the NFL even though he has 29 starts. Other orgs judge him on what he did on the field with no excuses attached. He's not the only guy with experience who has low or no value. Jimmy Clausen has starts with several teams and nobody has signed him even though he had try outs. The Patriots can get him for nothing. 

[nycdan]

39 minutes ago, drdetroit said:

Would be funny if someone gave Manziel another shot

 

Well now that Tebow is off the market...

[j4jets]

2 hours ago, jetsons said:

Our #2 has been out due to a minor shoulder injury, he should be ready to go very soon.

Brett Ratliff?

[Joejet]

1 hour ago, Ohio State NY Jets fan said:

Posada is in the front office playing "money ball", Cleveland has spent the entire offseason cutting experienced vets and collecting draft picks, so tanking the season was always part of the plan

Top 5 draft pick again so they can select a better prospect at QB in 2017 

Better than Carson Wentz who they could have drafted this year?

[j4jets]

1 hour ago, Rangers9 said:

Funny line and I have no problem with keeping him for the season. But he's going elsewhere next year anyways and if Mac can get a 6th rounder for him (which is doubtful-it'll probably be a 7th round pick) ok. He has almost no value around the NFL even though he has 29 starts. Other orgs judge him on what he did on the field with no excuses attached. He's not the only guy with experience who has low or no value. Jimmy Clausen has starts with several teams and nobody has signed him even though he had try outs. The Patriots can get him for nothing. 

Agree to disagree here. 

[Jetsfan80]

There's no trade market for Geno.  Sadly.

[Smashmouth]

12 hours ago, sheastadiumjetfan said:

Can we finally trade Geno for a Browns draft pick?

We've got some leverage.

we've got Petty waiting in the wings.

Cleveland is desperate.

Maybe  4th/5th Rounder to make this trade.

Mac can make this happen.....

The Browns would probably get someone off the couch before giving up any pick for Geno Smith

[Rangers9]

22 minutes ago, j4jets said:

Agree to disagree here. 

Look we're seeing Qbs like Brissett etc play in reg games and do ok. So if the org agrees and thinks that Petty is capable of performing on game day I'd like to see him get a chance if called upon. And in his second season he should be ready to be at least a backup Qb. So if he replaces Geno as our second string Qb I'm not so sure we would be losing anything by trading Smith. Geno played against the Raiders last year and was fair at best. He wasn't brutal though and the L was not really his fault. But the facts are as soon as Fitz came out of the game the entire team played poorly. But that was on the team. 

[varjet]

The Browns are building for the future.  They will call Matt Flynn and assorted others.  I think at this point the Jets are getting at least a 7th round compensatory pick for Geno.  They get Charone Peake this year in the 7th round, and Robby Anderson and Jalin Marshall were UDFA.   That is ok.

If Fitz gets hurt (hopefully not, but not unilkely for a game or two), maybe Geno comes in and plays well as the unexpected factor and someone pays more for him next off season, making that 7th round pick a 6th or 5th, which was all someone was going to pay for him anyway.

[drdetroit]

1 hour ago, Joejet said:

Better than Carson Wentz who they could have drafted this year?

In fairness to them not a lot of people liked Wentz.  I did and thought he was the best qb but people who know everything like Tony El Whiz had both Goff and Lynch rated higher than Wentz

[JiFtheOracle]

They drafted Cody Kessler in the 3rd round but they're going to trade for Geno Smith for 14 games before he hits FA?

Seems like a Browns type move but even they're not that stupid. 

[drdetroit]

2 hours ago, nycdan said:

 

Well now that Tebow is off the market...

Padres drafted Manziel

 

Just sayin'

 

[bostonmajet]

IF you are ready to have Petty take over the #2 and someone offers a conditional 7th for Geno (or better) you take it. That is a big IF, but once ready, getting anything for Geno is a plus; you get whatever pick you can get, you free up some Cap money (not much) and you free up a roster spot. Considering how good Mac and the CS has been about picking up UDFA (or FA) and grooming them along, the roster spot may be the most important. Also, it lets the team (and Geno) move on.

If a team is desperate enough for either an immediate starter (or a backup that can start), Geno has value even if he is only signed for the rest of the year. Grabbing a player to get you through the year is common place. A conditional 6th or 7th isn't too much to ask for a capable backup. Look what the Eagles got for Bradford as Minny was desperate (not comparing the careers of Geno to Bradford).

This holding a player for POSSIBLE compensatory pick is just insane in my view. We have to carry his spot, salary, etc for a year. Then we only get compensation IF he signs somewhere for real money, he is on that team at the start of camp, the Jets sign fewer players at the same or smaller salaries then they loose, and the loss is significant. Plus apparently there are limits to the number of picks you get. So if we don't resign Fitz and he goes somewhere we will get much more than if Geno goes somewhere. And if the both leave we are likely going to only get for Fitz. Either way, giving up the cap and spot (and possible trade) just for a slim shot at a comp. pick is being 'penny wise and dollar foolish' IMO.

[Rangers9]

It's really more who gives us our best chance to win if Fitz goes down, Geno or Petty. Or keep them both. If Geno struggles you go to Bryce. The compensation for Geno would be minimal. 

[Jetsfan80]

29 minutes ago, JiF said:

They drafted Cody Kessler in the 3rd round but they're going to trade for Geno Smith for 14 games before he hits FA?

Seems like a Browns type move but even they're not that stupid. 

They do have a ton of draft picks to throw around, but even still it makes little sense.  They can pick up a veteran off the scrap heap to back up Kessler.  It's very clear this first season was always going to be somewhat of a "throwaway" season for the new regime considering they passed on Wentz and they kept all 12 of their draft picks on the active roster.  You don't throw such a young roster out there, with an oft-injured RG3 as your starter, if you have plans to compete right away. 

[sheastadiumjetfan]

If ever there was a time to trade geno it would be now

his trade value for a Browns pick is higher than we'll get from another team not stocked with picks

plus geno cheap even as a backup for them

plus not trading him til next year gets us basically nada and we are wStung a roster spot holding him

 

 

[Jetsfan80]

3 minutes ago, sheastadiumjetfan said:

plus not trading him til next year gets us basically nada and we are wStung a roster spot holding him

 

 

Hopefully it hands us a late round compensatory pick in 2018.  But yeah, otherwise nothing coming our way. 

[JiFtheOracle]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

They do have a ton of draft picks to throw around, but even still it makes little sense.  They can pick up a veteran off the scrap heap to back up Kessler.  It's very clear this first season was always going to be somewhat of a "throwaway" season for the new regime considering they passed on Wentz and they kept all 12 of their draft picks on the active roster.  You don't throw such a young roster out there, with an oft-injured RG3 as your starter, if you have plans to compete right away. 

They are 0-2 and are probably the least talented team in Football.  They're not trading draft capital for a guy who provides zero future benefits.  Especially when you're not even sure if he provides better play than Kessler all in order to try and salvage an already lost season.

 

[BroadwayJets]

 Cody Kessler is the only QB on their roster, and it sounds like McCown will be out for at least a few weeks. They have to bring somebody in

[Tinstar]

1 hour ago, JiF said:

They drafted Cody Kessler in the 3rd round but they're going to trade for Geno Smith for 14 games before he hits FA?

Seems like a Browns type move but even they're not that stupid. 

This tread has nothing to do with the Browns and everything to do with getting the Vermin that is Eugene Smith off the Jets Roster . The truly sad part is when he's gone we will still have to read this crap .  We still to this day read it about Sanchez .

[Sperm Edwards]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

They do have a ton of draft picks to throw around, but even still it makes little sense.  They can pick up a veteran off the scrap heap to back up Kessler.  It's very clear this first season was always going to be somewhat of a "throwaway" season for the new regime considering they passed on Wentz and they kept all 12 of their draft picks on the active roster.  You don't throw such a young roster out there, with an oft-injured RG3 as your starter, if you have plans to compete right away. 

I think this is what makes it easy (or easier anyway) for them to do it in theory, but they actually don't have any "extra" picks in next year's draft. What they have is an upgrade from their 4th rounder to Philadelphia's 1st rounder. Significant, yes, but not extra. Absent trading down again, trading away, say, their 5th for Geno (we should get so lucky) would mean they'd have no picks between rounds 3 and 6. 

Then there's the other thing: this is not going to be a SB-run year for them no matter what, so why would they trade away a draft pick just for a temporary warm body? The only reason would be if they truly see something in Geno themselves and want to give him their own lengthy tryout, now that they have nothing to lose (game-wise) and are therefore willing to throw a late pick our way.

If all they're looking for is a warm body to throw out there until RGIII or McCown returns, they might as well just find a street FA like Vick, Yates, Flynn, Freeman, Tavaris, Whitehurst, etc. Plus the worse that QB does, do the more they get rewarded in each round of the draft (except round 4, naturally). 

[JiFtheOracle]

6 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

This tread has nothing to do with the Browns and everything to do with getting the Vermin that is Eugene Smith off the Jets Roster . The truly sad part is when he's gone we will still have to read this crap .  We still to this day read it about Sanchez .

Well that's great but the Browns are going to need to want him in order for the Jets to get rid of him, no?  And logically, there is no reason to trade for him.

If the Jets were as anxious to jettison Geno Smith as the fans are who hate him for some strange reason...he'd have been cut a long time ago.

[Beerfish]

We outta be able to get a 1st and a 3rd for Geno.