JOJOTOWNSELL Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 In my opinion woody gave Mac an ultimatum...get me a franchise qb in next years draft or you are fired. This is the only logical explanation to what is happening right now. Think about it, if Mac gets us a stud qb next year then this whole board will be singing his praises and it will be easy for Woody to extend him. Usually the objective for an owner going into the season is to win a super bowl......this year the number 1 pick is Woodys super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Wut? We have one in hackenbrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Mac has job security. The only way I see him fired is if there's a massive locker room revolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jet9 said: Mac has job security. The only way I see him fired is if there's a massive locker room revolt. And with our great leader HC we know that can and will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Me thinks Maccagnan saw Hackenberg in the first 8 practices and decided that he needed a QB from this year's draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Just now, ASH1962 said: And with our great leader HC we know that can and will never happen. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 minute ago, ASH1962 said: And with our great leader HC we know that can and will never happen. LOL. And you repped your own bigotry! Sweet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Woody promised Mangini he was safe after trading for Favre, 4 months later Mangini was fired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Jack Straw said: Me thinks Maccagnan saw Hackenberg in the first 8 practices and decided that he needed a QB from this year's draft class. The reports I'm hearing is Petty looks even worse. Figures his skill set has no business playing in WCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 1 hour ago, JOJOTOWNSELL said: In my opinion woody gave Mac an ultimatum...get me a franchise qb in next years draft or you are fired. This is the only logical explanation to what is happening right now. Think about it, if Mac gets us a stud qb next year then this whole board will be singing his praises and it will be easy for Woody to extend him. Usually the objective for an owner going into the season is to win a super bowl......this year the number 1 pick is Woodys super bowl You assume Woody still cares and actually is organized enough to plan In Woody's mind he's a big political guy now about to become ambassador. When the stadium is a ghost town next fall both Mac and Bowles will be canned probably by his brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Yes and Mac is doing pitch perfect stellar job. Kudos!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 Woody told mangini he would survive whatever happened with Favre soooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 the only way to build a team for the long term is through the draft. The tank gives us draft position next year. Actually I think we will have good draft positions for 2-3 years based on our talent base Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 yeah, these last few moves make little sense. i guess they're hoping some decent players spring free during training camp so it does give them some cap flexibility this season but who? are they making a play for kapernick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 A simpler explanation would be that Woody is dumb enough to think Maccagnan is doing a good job. A simpler one still is that Woody is a hopeless simpleton who'll decide Maccagnan's fate based on the quality of the puns on the back of the Post and Daily News. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 What are you talking about, I've been personally assured by Tinstar and Doggin94it that they made these moves because they believe in hack so much and aren't tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 52 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: What are you talking about, I've been personally assured by Tinstar and Doggin94it that they made these moves because they believe in hack so much and aren't tanking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, sciond said: the only way to build a team for the long term is through the draft. The tank gives us draft position next year. Actually I think we will have good draft positions for 2-3 years based on our talent base Jets are stocked up on DLs. That's the only position they've had any real success at building through the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: A simpler explanation would be that Woody is dumb enough to think Maccagnan is doing a good job. A simpler one still is that Woody is a hopeless simpleton who'll decide Maccagnan's fate based on the quality of the puns on the back of the Post and Daily News. Punda Diplomacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I just tell myself we are acting like Indy did when Luck was about to be the numero uno pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, pointman said: I just tell myself we are acting like Indy did when Luck was about to be the numero uno pick. I honestly don't think this is too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just now, Mogglez said: I honestly don't think this is too far off. They talk about Sam like hes the next Luck, so hopefully its the case. We just have to hope we get the #1 pick and that Sam actually declares for the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 They talk about Sam like hes the next Luck, so hopefully its the case. We just have to hope we get the #1 pick and that Sam actually declares for the draft. The two Joshes look to be pretty pretty good too.Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 25 minutes ago, Dunnie said: The two Joshes look to be pretty pretty good too. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Isn't Sam supposed to be a "guarantee" though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 1 hour ago, pointman said: Isn't Sam supposed to be a "guarantee" though? Wait until the end of this season and I think that Rosen is gonna be up there with him. I think the hype for this class is going to be off the charts. Much higher than 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 9 hours ago, thadude said: Woody promised Mangini he was safe after trading for Favre, 4 months later Mangini was fired This. Once those billboards are put up after Macc f*cks up another year, Woody will cave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 11 hours ago, pointman said: I just tell myself we are acting like Indy did when Luck was about to be the numero uno pick. A bit revisionist based on the end results, no? Today is June 8th. This time in 2011 the lockout was still in effect. 1. After the lockout ended, on July 30th that year they signed Peyton Manning to a $90m extension (with $26m payable in 2011). 2. As a holdover starter with Manning still not ready yet, they also signed Kerry Collins for another $4m in late August, precisely so the season wouldn't be in the crapper by the time Manning would hopefully return. Teams don't do either of those two things if they're already tanking before the first game. They'd have just rescinded Manning's franchise tag, don't sign Collins, and save that extra ~$30m to spend around Andrew Luck (back when the cap was $120m). They also would have cut 32 year-old Dallas Clark in 2011, after missing most of 2010, instead of paying him another $4m. They also didn't have to re-sign 38-39 year old Adam Vinatieri at $3.5m/yr literally the day before they extended Manning. The Colts didn't suck-for-Luck until they were already multiple games into the 2011 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 10 hours ago, Mogglez said: Wait until the end of this season and I think that Rosen is gonna be up there with him. I think the hype for this class is going to be off the charts. Much higher than 2012. Rosen is a classless douche, no leadership skills, teammates hate him, I wouldn't be shocked to see him fall to day 2 in next years draft being the 4th, or 5th QB off the board behind Sam, Allen, Jackson, Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScarletKnight89 Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 18 hours ago, Jet9 said: Mac has job security. The only way I see him fired is if there's a massive locker room revolt. I agree. But I bet Idzik felt he had job security when he did what he did in 2014. Woody can be reactionary at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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