Villain The Foe Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Pull the trigger Tanny! lol. Jay Cutler agrees to terms with Dolphins; Ryan Tannehill must nurse torn ACL BY ARMANDO SALGUERO asalguero@miamiherald.com LINKEDIN GOOGLE+ PINTEREST REDDIT PRINT ORDER REPRINT OF THIS STORY AUGUST 06, 2017 2:05 PM Jay Cutler is the Miami Dolphins new starting quarterback and the reason the team needs him is because regular starter Ryan Tannehill suffered ACL damage to his left knee during practice last week. Cutler on Sunday agreed to a one-year deal worth $10 million plus incentives, per a league source. As $5 million of that is base salary and another $5 million is a roster bonus, it strongly suggests the Dolphins expect him to be the starter ahead of Matt Moore. Moore, who helped the team to the playoffs at the end of 2016, is paid like an NFL backup. He’s making $1.75 million this season and is costing the team $2.15 million against the cap. The price for Cutler is modest for an NFL starting QB so the Dolphins front office in a sense made the best of a difficult situation. Adam Gase comments on his conversation with quarterback Jay Cutler Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins coach, talks to the media about his conversation with quarterback Jay Cutler. The Dolphins might consider searching for a quarterback after Ryan Tannehill injured his leg at training camp. Charles Trainor, Jr. Miami Herald Staff The Dolphins made a strong push for Cutler — Adam Gase, who coached Cutler in Chicago, convinced him to come out of retirement and postpone a fledgling broadcasting career -- because the team knows it is going to be without Tannehill for quite some time and almost certainly until next year. That’s because Tannehill has a partially torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee -- again -- and although it is not yet decided whether that injury will be repaired via surgery or addressed with treatment, he will be out a long time. Tannehill, 29, suffered a similar injury to the same knee last December and at that time the decision between the quarterback and his doctor, and the Dolphins and their doctor was to treat the ligament rather than replace it. The treatment, which included stem cell treatments, was the unorthodox path and led to serious questions about the approach because most athletes who tear their ACL have surgery. That was not, however, an issue until Thursday when Tannehill sustained a new partial tear to the same ligament. Prior to Thursday's injury the Dolphins and Tannehill were confident the knee would not be any more prone to another ACL injury than if surgery had been done after the first injury. Indeed, a source said an exam of Tannehill's knee just prior to the opening of training camp showed the treated left knee was stronger and in better shape than the right knee that had not suffered any injury. But all that was lost during practice Thursday when Tannehill scrambled right out of the pocket, ran up the sideline, planted awkwardly on the left knee before going out of bounds, and fell to the ground with the most recent tear. The brace that was meant to help stabilize Tannehill's knee did not prevent this injury. Tannehill spent the past several days consulting multiple medical experts with the hope of perhaps undergoing rehabilitation to the knee rather than submit to surgery. No final decision has been made, per a source. RELATED STORIES FROM MIAMI HERALD Miami Dolphins have already reached out to Jay Cutler The reasons the Miami Dolphins feel they must add a quarterback Ryan Tannehill MRI results: Dolphins QB not out of the woods Tannehill injury part of a terrible week but soon comes a time for Dolphins to rally Miami Dolphins’ Tannehill to miss ‘significant’ time The more likely decision is surgery because, according to a source close to Cutler, he didn’t want to come to the Dolphins unless it was clear he would not be somehow stepping into a situation where Tannehill might return this season. And Cutler got those assurances, the source said. The reason Cutler was Miami’s choice over all other available quarterbacks is because of his and Gase’s familiarity. The two worked together with the Chicago Bears in 2015. Gase was Cutler’s offensive coordinator and helped the player enjoy one of his more solid seasons. Cutler threw 21 TD passes and 11 interceptions in ‘15 and posted a career-best 92.3 quarterback rating. Perhaps more importantly, Gase helped rehabilitate Cutler -- raising him from a sulking, unhappy turnover-ridden player to one who seemed to enjoying playing again and had the respect of most of his teammates. Follow Armando Salguero on Twitter: @ArmandoSalguero I'd like to end this with my favorite youtuber that speaks about the NFL and just so happens to be a bears fan and has experience with Jay Cutler. This is just classic! lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Cue the false outrage from ESPN over Kaepernick not being signed in 3...2...1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Fantasy Island Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, Villain The Foe said: Pull the trigger Tanny! lol. Jay Cutler agrees to terms with Dolphins; Ryan Tannehill must nurse torn ACL BY ARMANDO SALGUERO asalguero@miamiherald.com LINKEDIN GOOGLE+ PINTEREST REDDIT PRINT ORDER REPRINT OF THIS STORY AUGUST 06, 2017 2:05 PM Jay Cutler is the Miami Dolphins new starting quarterback and the reason the team needs him is because regular starter Ryan Tannehill suffered ACL damage to his left knee during practice last week. Cutler on Sunday agreed to a one-year deal worth $10 million plus incentives, per a league source. As $5 million of that is base salary and another $5 million is a roster bonus, it strongly suggests the Dolphins expect him to be the starter ahead of Matt Moore. Moore, who helped the team to the playoffs at the end of 2016, is paid like an NFL backup. He’s making $1.75 million this season and is costing the team $2.15 million against the cap. The price for Cutler is modest for an NFL starting QB so the Dolphins front office in a sense made the best of a difficult situation. Adam Gase comments on his conversation with quarterback Jay Cutler Adam Gase, Miami Dolphins coach, talks to the media about his conversation with quarterback Jay Cutler. The Dolphins might consider searching for a quarterback after Ryan Tannehill injured his leg at training camp. Charles Trainor, Jr. Miami Herald Staff The Dolphins made a strong push for Cutler — Adam Gase, who coached Cutler in Chicago, convinced him to come out of retirement and postpone a fledgling broadcasting career -- because the team knows it is going to be without Tannehill for quite some time and almost certainly until next year. That’s because Tannehill has a partially torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee -- again -- and although it is not yet decided whether that injury will be repaired via surgery or addressed with treatment, he will be out a long time. Tannehill, 29, suffered a similar injury to the same knee last December and at that time the decision between the quarterback and his doctor, and the Dolphins and their doctor was to treat the ligament rather than replace it. The treatment, which included stem cell treatments, was the unorthodox path and led to serious questions about the approach because most athletes who tear their ACL have surgery. That was not, however, an issue until Thursday when Tannehill sustained a new partial tear to the same ligament. Prior to Thursday's injury the Dolphins and Tannehill were confident the knee would not be any more prone to another ACL injury than if surgery had been done after the first injury. Indeed, a source said an exam of Tannehill's knee just prior to the opening of training camp showed the treated left knee was stronger and in better shape than the right knee that had not suffered any injury. But all that was lost during practice Thursday when Tannehill scrambled right out of the pocket, ran up the sideline, planted awkwardly on the left knee before going out of bounds, and fell to the ground with the most recent tear. The brace that was meant to help stabilize Tannehill's knee did not prevent this injury. Tannehill spent the past several days consulting multiple medical experts with the hope of perhaps undergoing rehabilitation to the knee rather than submit to surgery. No final decision has been made, per a source. RELATED STORIES FROM MIAMI HERALD Miami Dolphins have already reached out to Jay Cutler The reasons the Miami Dolphins feel they must add a quarterback Ryan Tannehill MRI results: Dolphins QB not out of the woods Tannehill injury part of a terrible week but soon comes a time for Dolphins to rally Miami Dolphins’ Tannehill to miss ‘significant’ time The more likely decision is surgery because, according to a source close to Cutler, he didn’t want to come to the Dolphins unless it was clear he would not be somehow stepping into a situation where Tannehill might return this season. And Cutler got those assurances, the source said. The reason Cutler was Miami’s choice over all other available quarterbacks is because of his and Gase’s familiarity. The two worked together with the Chicago Bears in 2015. Gase was Cutler’s offensive coordinator and helped the player enjoy one of his more solid seasons. Cutler threw 21 TD passes and 11 interceptions in ‘15 and posted a career-best 92.3 quarterback rating. Perhaps more importantly, Gase helped rehabilitate Cutler -- raising him from a sulking, unhappy turnover-ridden player to one who seemed to enjoying playing again and had the respect of most of his teammates. Follow Armando Salguero on Twitter: @ArmandoSalguero I'd like to end this with my favorite youtuber that speaks about the NFL and just so happens to be a bears fan and has experience with Jay Cutler. This is just classic! lol. Dude needs to change his calendar from July to August. Lost all credibility when I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Who has more wins this season Cutler or McCown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 All things considered, I'd rather be a Jets fan instead of a Dolphins fan...Oye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadFan Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Makes sense for Miami. It won't change their outcome. That is a 7-9 team with Tanne, or Cutler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jetster Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 16 minutes ago, RoadFan said: Makes sense for Miami. It won't change their outcome. That is a 7-9 team with Tanne, or Cutler. Does Miami really think they have a chance at competing with the Pats this year? Suh putting 2 non lazy years together? Yea, ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 50 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Cue the false outrage from ESPN over Kaepernick not being signed in 3...2...1... Cutler didn't read " charm school for dummies" for no reason this off season. You know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I wonder how much the Giants were asking for Geno. They must have wanted a 1st round pick, In sure the fish would have preferred Geno, the franchise QB in the making. Maybe the 1st was too much? Or was it a 1st and a 2nd? Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 minute ago, NoBowles said: I wonder how much the Giants were asking for Geno. They must have wanted a 1st round pick, In sure the fish would have preferred Geno, the franchise QB in the making. Maybe the 1st was too much? Or was it a 1st and a 2nd? Who knows Is Geno available? Too bad sh*tzpatrick signed with TB he should have held out he could be starting in Baltimore or Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 54 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Jay Cutler's wife Josh McCown's wife Prefer Cutler's. I've always liked her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 29 minutes ago, Jetster said: Does Miami really think they have a chance at competing with the Pats this year? Suh putting 2 non lazy years together? Yea, ok. Cutler is actually better than Tannehill and Moore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Take the money and run..... Dicey move signing a guy with 1 foot in the booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, thadude said: Prefer Cutler's. I've always liked her She's an anti-vaxxing idiot. The two morons are perfect for each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike135 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 40 minutes ago, Jetster said: Does Miami really think they have a chance at competing with the Pats this year? Suh putting 2 non lazy years together? Yea, ok. When the top team in the division is relying on a 40 year old QB, nothing is a lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 13 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Is Geno available? Too bad sh*tzpatrick signed with TB he should have held out he could be starting in Baltimore or Miami. I doubt Geno is available. The Giants know what a gem they got, and its very unlikely they will let him go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Who has more wins this season Cutler or McCown? Who is on a better team Cutler or McCown? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said: Cue the false outrage from ESPN over Kaepernick not being signed in 3...2...1... If they want to keep thier job they better act outraged even though we now they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 I hate the Dolphins like I hate cancer, and yet every offseason they manage to do something that makes me hate them even more. If we go 2-14 and both wins are against Miami, this season will be a resounding success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 17 minutes ago, Mogglez said: She's an anti-vaxxing idiot. The two morons are perfect for each other. A hot chick with an uninformed opinion? What a shocker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 LMAO? Mac paid $12mil to sh*tz. $10 isn't bad at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Cutler had his best season under Gase. I think people are underrating this move. Dolphins just got upgraded at QB. They have the best OL they have had in years, strong run game with Ajayi, Landry might see less balls but Parker, Stills and Julius Thomas will all get major upgrades due to a better QB. I know a lot of people just defer to LOL Cutler but I think this might be a good marriage. Cutler was best under Gase, only throwing 11 INTs that year. Tannehill might not get his job back if they make a crazy wildcard run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 Different page, but Macc paying Fitz 12 should not be overlooked. The Jets Front Office are a good bunch of likeable guys. But I think they are done. It's not all their fault. They had help. Unless Woody changes his way of operating, we will get the same result with whomever he replaces Macc and Bowles with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fibonacci Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 20 minutes ago, JETSfaninNE said: Cutler had his best season under Gase. I think people are underrating this move. Dolphins just got upgraded at QB. They have the best OL they have had in years, strong run game with Ajayi, Landry might see less balls but Parker, Stills and Julius Thomas will all get major upgrades due to a better QB. I know a lot of people just defer to LOL Cutler but I think this might be a good marriage. Cutler was best under Gase, only throwing 11 INTs that year. Tannehill might not get his job back if they make a crazy wildcard run. My thoughts exactly. Dolphins might have upgraded at QB considering the Gase-Cutler history. Cutler had his best year under Gase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 22 minutes ago, varjet said: Unless Woody changes his way of operating, we will get the same result with whomever he replaces Macc and Bowles with. Unless he hires educated proven football minded people and not the usual weak cheap bastards he's been hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted August 6, 2017 Share Posted August 6, 2017 11 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Unless he hires educated proven football minded people and not the usual weak cheap bastards he's been hiring. We have seen this movie. They are going to be awful this year. The fans will start with the paper bags and get worse. All in the USA's largest media market. It will kill ratings for the league generally. Kraft and Jones will call Goodell and ask him to fix it. Goodell will log onto this site and understand the problems. He will speak to Woody and Chris, and they then will hire real people for 4x what Woody is paying now for a FO. The Jets will then get much better, be competitive and the fans will be gleeful. Then Woody will start figuring out how he can save money, and the team will get crappy again. At least we are not the Dolphins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Yeah I am going to laugh at the phins for signing a Qb who is 50 times better than anything we have for 10 million. Cutler is an upgrade over tanny hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Mia will win 10 games with Cutler. Our NYJ with McCown wont win 5. Gase is a good coach. Sad but true. One step further. The Jetsiest of things to happen would be if Williams or Richardson smash Brady ending his season. If 40 y/o Brady gets hurt early on Mia could win the AFCE, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 12 hours ago, JETSfaninNE said: Cutler had his best season under Gase. Fitz had his best season under Bowles. One year later ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 14 hours ago, j4jets said: LMAO? Mac paid $12mil to sh*tz. $10 isn't bad at all. Cutler has 12 wins combined over the last 4 seasons. You and JW think that makes him better than Fitz with 10 wins here. Now thats funny. Should I put up a LMAO for empahsis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 You people are WAY OVERRATING the Fins,lol. The Jets & Bills were awful last year going through the motions. Cutler won't even finish the season, he hasn't in years. The dudes been sitting on his azz for over a year & just got up because let's face it, you'd have to be an IDIOT to turn down another guaranteed 10 million at the end of your career! Ajayi won't run for over 200 against the Jets this year, that I guarantee! Do you know what the Fins look like this year? THE JETS, every year that Tannenbaum was around. They'll be RIGHT THERE, but Peter out at the end like overpaid Jets teams of the past. Miami was one of those teams last year who got some breaks, got by with the skin of their teeth & without scrutinizing their record look to take a step forward. Its a mirage, similar to the Jets in 2015. I'm reading people on here saying, "Cutlers better than Tannyhill", well, he may be a better passer but how many times did Tannyhill get out of trouble using his FEET? Cutler can't get out of his own way when pressured. I'm sure the Fins will have a better overall record than the Jets but in the end will be on the outside looking in hopefully watching the NY Jets in position for the best college QB available in the 2018 draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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