Tinstar Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: It wasn't perfectly lined up for him so it's not his fault he whiffed on the tackle. Goodness, some of you would rip out your eyes before admitting a Jets players is at fault for his own play. I'm not concerned about Adams, but damn you went way out of your way to pretend he has no fault on that play. He had no fault because he played his assignment on the play . He had outside containment and he kept the RB inside while disengaging from the blocker . IMO, and it's my opinion, Adams did enough to even get an arm in on the RB . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Tinstar said: He had no fault because he played his assignment on the play . He had outside containment and he kept the RB inside while disengaging from the blocker . IMO, and it's my opinion, Adams did enough to even get an arm in on the RB . Ok to miss tackles as long as you followed your assignment. Is that you, Bowles? Getting an arm on a guy is a great play! I have to say that I think you're on the level of a Jets coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Very Calvin Pryor-ish performance. But I bet you he said nice things that were positive and that makes up for not being able to tackle very well. Patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: Ok to miss tackles as long as you followed your assignment. Is that you, Bowles? Getting an arm on a guy is a great play! I have to say that I think you're on the level of a Jets coach. Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate that you think i'm as competent as an NFL coach . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 14 hours ago, RoadFan said: Yeah... clearly Kyle Brady was better than Warren Sapp. Hess didn't want Sapp. Kirwan has said so. Whether people believe him it's their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 29 minutes ago, Matt39 said: This is all true. An in the box safety with a top 10 pick with the current state of the roster was beyond absurd. And then they took another one at 36. Mcagnan makes Idzik look like Ron Wolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So far Maye has shown in-game more so than Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detectivekimble Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Except we're not talking about a GM who is part of an old boy network. Or a HC. And yes you listed a few but Belichick was a retread, Parcells was, Cowher would have been one, Gruden would be one too. Groh, Herm, Mangini, Rex and Bowles aren't. None of this means anyone on the board could run a better draft than whoever. Fans here pimped Fitz, Irsay drafted Manning and Luck, has made the playoffs often and won a SB. Two obvious generational QBs. And even with that, the Colts have one only one SB and doing their best to ruin Andrew Luck's career. Do you think the Cleveland Cavaliers are a well run organization? No. They got lucky with Lebron James. They're still a terribly run organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 hour ago, Tinstar said: Thanks for the compliment, I appreciate that you think i'm as competent as an NFL coach . He said JET coach, there is a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost112287 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Very Calvin Pryor-ish performance. But I bet you he said nice things that were positive and that makes up for not being able to tackle very well. Patience. Calvin Pryor was never even in the right spot to make plays. Sent from my SM-G950U using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 19 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: He said JET coach, there is a difference. So according to you, the people who coach the Jets are not apart of the NFL . We have nothing further to discuss . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 So far Maye looks better. But these are rookies in their second pre-season game. Only bitter SOJfs would be whining about the pick already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: So far Maye looks better. But these are rookies in their second pre-season game. Only bitter SOJfs would be whining about the pick already. We have scored 13 points in 8 quarters of football 2 FG's and 1 TD you cannot win games in the NFL if you have no offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: We have scored 13 points in 8 quarters of football 2 FG's and 1 TD you cannot win games in the NFL if you have no offense. Agreed. This team needs to load up on offense the next few drafts. But whining about Adams is like whining about Leonard Williams based on a bad preseason game in his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 18 hours ago, gEYno said: How was his leadership, tho? 18 hours ago, dbatesman said: He looked awfully leadery, though. That didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Agreed. This team needs to load up on offense the next few drafts. But whining about Adams is like whining about Leonard Williams based on a bad preseason game in his rookie year. I never whined about Adams and I never will but have you seen Mahomes and Dalvin Cook things could have been different here Mike Maccagnan is not the answer at GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I never whined about Adams and I never will but have you seen Mahomes and Dalvin Cook things could have been different here Mike Maccagnan is not the answer at GM. I loved Cook, but a team rebuilding doesn't need a RB that will get abused behind a bad line/with no QB. By the time this team is good, Cook will have plenty of miles. Plus Cook had plenty of off the field question marks. If we were a RB away from being a contender I would have killed for Cooks/Mccaffery/Mixon/Fournette. The Qbs were trickier. Next years class is much better, but that doesn't mean one of these guys (Mahomes/Watson/Trubisky/Kizer) can't become a stud. Plenty of B+ prospects at QB emerge, but many do not. Guys like Bortles/RG3/Bridgwater/Manuel/Ponder type guys were well liked, but never fulfilled the promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I loved Cook, but a team rebuilding doesn't need a RB that will get abused behind a bad line/with no QB. By the time this team is good, Cook will have plenty of miles. Plus Cook had plenty of off the field question marks. If we were a RB away from being a contender I would have killed for Cooks/Mccaffery/Mixon/Fournette. The Qbs were trickier. Next years class is much better, but that doesn't mean one of these guys (Mahomes/Watson/Trubisky/Kizer) can't become a stud. Plenty of B+ prospects at QB emerge, but many do not. Guys like Bortles/RG3/Bridgwater/Manuel/Ponder type guys were well liked, but never fulfilled the promise. Next years QB class look good in the NCAA the NFL is an entire different level of football. Hope for the best expect the worst life as a Jets fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 9 hours ago, Jet Nut said: You take Williams off of the 2nd preseason game. I'm content to let their careers play out, am happy with the player everyone had rated over Tim Williams. But hey, you keep scouring the stat lines to give yourself material and calling both players mediocre. I'll just keep in mind your post if improved still would come up way short of mediocre. Jamal Adams SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: So far Maye looks better. But these are rookies in their second pre-season game. Only bitter SOJfs would be whining about the pick already. Does Maye look better than Dalvin Cook, Deshone Kizer and Tim Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: I loved Cook, but a team rebuilding doesn't need a RB that will get abused behind a bad line/with no QB. The Vikings have the worst OL in the NFL. Even worse than the Macagnan-built Jets OL. Cook just runs really good routes, has good hands and has good game speed If you have those qualities you don't need the 90's Cowboys OL blocking for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYs Stepchild Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, thadude said: Does Maye look better than Dalvin Cook, Deshone Kizer and Tim Williams? None of them look as good as Ratliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 39 minutes ago, thadude said: Does Maye look better than Dalvin Cook, Deshone Kizer and Tim Williams? First off, yeah, he looks better than Kizer. Better thank cook and every other player taken after him? Probably not. But your method of analysis is easy to make every draft pick look bad. Unless you draft a HOFer, there will always be a player here or there that outperforms the player you took. If Maye turns out to be a 10 year starter that makes a few Pro Bowls, I am not going to be upset because Cook happens to be a HOF RB. I love Cook, I also loved Mccffery/Fournette/Mixon. This was a great RB class, but when you are rebuilding you usually don't draft a RB. The Cowboys didn't take Elliot before they built a great line. They also took Zeke despite some off the field issues and he's already been suspended 6 games. Cook has a much more checkered past (same with Mixon) so I am not sure passing on them will look stupid in a few years when they wear down/get suspended etc.... Either way, can these players make one play during a real game before we anoint them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: First off, yeah, he looks better than Kizer. Better thank cook and every other player taken after him? Probably not. But your method of analysis is easy to make every draft pick look bad. Unless you draft a HOFer, there will always be a player here or there that outperforms the player you took. If Maye turns out to be a 10 year starter that makes a few Pro Bowls, I am not going to be upset because Cook happens to be a HOF RB. I love Cook, I also loved Mccffery/Fournette/Mixon. This was a great RB class, but when you are rebuilding you usually don't draft a RB. The Cowboys didn't take Elliot before they built a great line. They also took Zeke despite some off the field issues and he's already been suspended 6 games. Cook has a much more checkered past (same with Mixon) so I am not sure passing on them will look stupid in a few years when they wear down/get suspended etc.... Either way, can these players make one play during a real game before we anoint them? Maye looks like an ok safety which are a dime a dozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:02 PM, Maxman said: He definitely keeps leaving his feet. It's like he is playing Madden and hits the dive button. Not surprising. Mac and the Jets are taking a dive this season. Dive Dive Dive....Voyage To The Bottom of The NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:45 PM, dbatesman said: Jet Nut, you are the best of us That's just nuts ?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 0:22 AM, RoadFan said: Yeah... clearly Kyle Brady was better than Warren Sapp. And Obrien was hands down the better pick over Marino. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 6 hours ago, thadude said: Jamal Adams SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sure he does. To you everyone sucks. It's what trolls always post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:57 PM, RoadFan said: I am in. I didn't watch any film on Dak. Kudos. FTR, my biggest miss of the last 3 years was OBJ. I saw a guy that seemed to lose his balance too easily. Boy was I wrong about that. Turns out he was actually so athletic, his body was changing direction at an absurd rate of speed that few could do without stumbling at least a little. In my defense, I might not have missed that if I saw him in person as opposed to youtube videos. I love how ridiculous you sound when you start down this path... truly awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 I think we can still blame Idzik for this. Had he drafted Clintons Dix Haha, we wouldn't have drafted Adams. As long as Mac doesn't get blamed, we are gold! Such a weird pick considering Haha was an option. They went to scout a QB yet looked at a SS...Sent from my XT1650 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 17 hours ago, Jet Nut said: Sure he does. To you everyone sucks. It's what trolls always post. Jamal Adams is going to be an even bigger fiasco than Calvin Pryor or Dee Milliner. The guys we passed on for Adams are going to blow the NFL away and Adams might not even be in the nfl in 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 11:12 PM, Gastineau Lives said: Somebody in my brother's fantasy league drafted Jamal Adams as his IDP. lol If they get points for tackles, he could very well rack up a ton about 8 yards from the LOS, as our defense won't be able to get off the field. Did he take BOTH Jet safeties though? Gotta have 2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony MaC Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, thadude said: Jamal Adams is going to be an even bigger fiasco than Calvin Pryor or Dee Milliner. The guys we passed on for Adams are going to blow the NFL away and Adams might not even be in the nfl in 4 years Wow... above average football IQ for a man his age, positive presence in the locker room, good physical tools... out of the league in 4 years? Really? The sad part is you'll never be able to enjoy it when he plays well because then you'll have one less thing to be miserable about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tony MaC said: Wow... above average football IQ for a man his age, positive presence in the locker room, good physical tools... out of the league in 4 years? Really? I'll take it easy because I like your sig but no. Jamal Adams is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thadude Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If they get points for tackles, he could very well rack up a ton about 8 yards from the LOS, as our defense won't be able to get off the field. Did he take BOTH Jet safeties though? Gotta have 2! In fantasy Jamal Adams might be good. So was Vilma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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