King P Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Do we even have a realistic chance at top 5 at this point? Highly unlikely. I think 7 or 8 is the best we can do realistically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I heard on NFL Radio was that the rumor was that the the giants would hire McDaniels and Caserio. If they pick 2 they draft Darnold-he comes out if the Giants or 49ers are picking 2. Great job on the meaningless Jets wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 33 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Do we even have a realistic chance at top 5 at this point? Yea as good as hitting lotto 3,000,000 to 1, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 34 minutes ago, BigO said: Yea as good as hitting lotto 3,000,000 to 1, I think we could get to 6 pretty easily and San Fran is not an easy out with Garapolo, they could win out....not super likely but just saying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 21 minutes ago, johnnysd said: I think we could get to 6 pretty easily and San Fran is not an easy out with Garapolo, they could win out....not super likely but just saying... Who are their last 3 games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Patriot Killa said: Who are their last 3 games? OK well maybe not. They play the Titans, Jaguars and Rams so pretty difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, johnnysd said: OK well maybe not. They play the Titans, Jaguars and Rams so pretty difficult. Woah..yeah about that. maybe the titans? ...that’s all I see though. Edit:: unless Rams sit players? They are 10-3 or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigO Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, johnnysd said: I think we could get to 6 pretty easily and San Fran is not an easy out with Garapolo, they could win out....not super likely but just saying... Long long long shot to get to 5. The stars would have to align with the Jets and when was the last time that happened. To get to 5th spot, all these scenarios would have to play out since SOS has determining effect of teams tied with same record. Of course this is assuming we lose last 3 vs. NO 9-3, Chargers 7-6, Pats 10-3. SF would have to win out vs. Tenn 8-4, Jax 9-4, Rams 9-4. Winning only 2 puts them at 5-8 SOS in their favor. Texans are 4-9 and have Jax 9-4, Steelers 11-2 and Colts 3-11. They’d need to win 2 of those 3, SOS in their favor. Up next are Bears 4-9. They have Lions 7-6, Browns 0-13, Vikes 10-3. Bears just need to win 1 since we have SOS tiebreaker. Tampa 4-9 have Atl 8-4, Car 9-4, No 9-4. They must win one in order for us move up as we have SOS tiebreaker. Next is Denver at 5-9 who have Skins 5-8, KC 7-6. They need to win 1 of those 2 for us to leapfrog since SOS favors them. Bengals up next at 5-8 face Minn 10-3, Det 7-6, Bal 7-6. They need to win 1 as they have SOS tiebreaker. An encouraging sign is some of these teams ahead of us are playing better so we could move up on Texans, Bears, Denver and Bengals. That would put us at 6. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Why would 5 be far off? Jets are 1 game off from having the same record as 5 other teams in front. I can see each of these guys winning at least one. 6th spot at least. But if we even dare win ONE more game, it'll probably drop us like a brick. 5 - Texans: Jax, Pitt, Indy 6- Chicago: Lions, Browns, Vikings 7-Bucs: Falcons, Panthers, Saints 8-Denver: Redskins, KC 9-Bengals: Vikings, Lions, Ravens Sucks even though if Giants were to win their next 3, they'd still pick ahead of the Jets. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 8 hours ago, varjet said: I heard on NFL Radio was that the rumor was that the the giants would hire McDaniels and Caserio. If they pick 2 they draft Darnold-he comes out if the Giants or 49ers are picking 2. Great job on the meaningless Jets wins. While I share your sentiments, we both know there is a huge difference in perception for playing for either the Jets or Giants. We could have the #1 pick and some of these kids might not come out to avoid the plague that is the dysfunctional Jets organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 38 minutes ago, MDL_JET said: Why would 5 be far off? Jets are 1 game off from having the same record as 5 other teams in front. I can see each of these guys winning at least one. 6th spot at least. But if we even dare win ONE more game, it'll probably drop us like a brick. 5 - Texans: Jax, Pitt, Indy 6- Chicago: Lions, Browns, Vikings 7-Bucs: Falcons, Panthers, Saints 8-Denver: Redskins, KC 9-Bengals: Vikings, Lions, Ravens Sucks even though if Giants were to win their next 3, they'd still pick ahead of the Jets. Sigh... 5 isn't that far off, but not that likely. I don't care about finishing ahead of the Giants. I care about a team like the Colts or Niners, who already have QBs, finishing at 2 and then trading that pick to us since they already have Jimmy G and Luck (assuming we don't sign Cousins or even trade for Luck) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 On 12/11/2017 at 10:38 AM, kevinc855 said: We all know how this story is Gona end. We will sell the house for a bust Jet down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDL_JET Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: 5 isn't that far off, but not that likely. I don't care about finishing ahead of the Giants. I care about a team like the Colts or Niners, who already have QBs, finishing at 2 and then trading that pick to us since they already have Jimmy G and Luck (assuming we don't sign Cousins or even trade for Luck) Good point. If Giants decide to go with Webb though, that could seal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 If we end up ahead of Denver and Cincinnati we'll have a good shot at Mayfield..but still going to have to give up a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 11 hours ago, King P said: Man, that KC win cost us 4 spots. We'd be at 6 right now had we not beat them But it sure felt good for that 15 minutes on that random fall Sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 hours ago, Patriot Killa said: Do we even have a realistic chance at top 5 at this point? No, 6th if we lose out which we will but we need help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 2 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Good point. If Giants decide to go with Webb though, that could seal it. They won’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 53 minutes ago, shuler82 said: But it sure felt good for that 15 minutes on that random fall Sunday afternoon. Felt oh so good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 12 hours ago, King P said: Man, that KC win cost us 4 spots. We'd be at 6 right now had we not beat them Picking 6 is bad news for us. Might as well be an extra 2nd rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 4 hours ago, MDL_JET said: Why would 5 be far off? Jets are 1 game off from having the same record as 5 other teams in front. I can see each of these guys winning at least one. 6th spot at least. But if we even dare win ONE more game, it'll probably drop us like a brick. 5 - Texans: Jax, Pitt, Indy (win 1) 6- Chicago: Lions, Browns, Vikings (win 1) 7-Bucs: Falcons, Panthers, Saints (lose out) 8-Denver: Redskins, KC (win 1) 9-Bengals: Vikings, Lions, Ravens (lose out) Sucks even though if Giants were to win their next 3, they'd still pick ahead of the Jets. Sigh... The way I see it playing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Integrity28 said: The way I see it playing out. Bucs could steal one. Division games are always played harder and closer no matter the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 For a second I thought "the tank" was referring to Mike Francesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Chicago-Lions game today..draft position impact. Can Mitch boy wonder pull it off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 On 12/15/2017 at 8:46 AM, MDL_JET said: Why would 5 be far off? Jets are 1 game off from having the same record as 5 other teams in front. I can see each of these guys winning at least one. 6th spot at least. But if we even dare win ONE more game, it'll probably drop us like a brick. 5 - Texans: Jax, Pitt, Indy 6- Chicago: Lions, Browns, Vikings 7-Bucs: Falcons, Panthers, Saints 8-Denver: Redskins, KC 9-Bengals: Vikings, Lions, Ravens Sucks even though if Giants were to win their next 3, they'd still pick ahead of the Jets. Sigh... I predict we lose out and end up at 6 overall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 At this point it doesn’t matter where we end up. Darnold and Rosen are out of reach. Mac doesn’t draft short QBs, So Mayfield was never an option. Losing out will have us picking 9th because Chicago beats Cleveland. We will be choosing between Arden Key and Denzel Ward after we resign McCown for “one more run.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Someone told me we moved up to 9 but..it doesn’t show that here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Pcola said: At this point it doesn’t matter where we end up. Darnold and Rosen are out of reach. Mac doesn’t draft short QBs, So Mayfield was never an option. Losing out will have us picking 9th because Chicago beats Cleveland. We will be choosing between Arden Key and Denzel Ward after we resign McCown for “one more run.” Buy your Denzel ward jet jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 If we stay at 10 it might be better to go all in on Cousins. The bidding war for the Colts pick will be gross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King P Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 The Niners beating the Titans is good and bad. It's bad because it basically takes the 49ers out of the #2 spot completely. But it's good because it helps the Bills playoff chances, thus making it even harder for them to trade up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Just now, King P said: The Niners beating the Titans is good and bad. It's bad because it basically takes the 49ers out of the #2 spot completely. But it's good because it helps the Bills playoff chances, thus making it even harder for them to trade up The Colts will probably end up picking 3rd and they don't need a QB so that pick will be available for us to trade up for. With Darnold and Rosen sure to go 1-2 we have to be bold and move up to 3 for Mayfield. Really I don't care what we have to give up just get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, King P said: The Niners beating the Titans is good and bad. It's bad because it basically takes the 49ers out of the #2 spot completely. But it's good because it helps the Bills playoff chances, thus making it even harder for them to trade up A Giants win would have been so great today. What teams do you think will be trying to trade up for a QB and what could they give up? Bills Broncos Cardinals Washington IMO the Bills are the only team that could out bid us and like you said that win helps us by hurting their draft value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pennington said: The Colts will probably end up picking 3rd and they don't need a QB so that pick will be available for us to trade up for. With Darnold and Rosen sure to go 1-2 we have to be bold and move up to 3 for Mayfield. Really I don't care what we have to give up just get it done. Everything I've read and seen has Allen as the better prospect.. so if someone trades up to 3 for Allen maybe they trade up to 4 for Mayfield. I took a quick look at the teams schedules ahead of us and it doesn't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pennington Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Pac said: Everything I've read and seen has Allen as the better prospect.. so if someone trades up to 3 for Allen maybe they trade up to 4 for Mayfield. I took a quick look at the teams schedules ahead of us and it doesn't look good. Allen is not the better prospect and I think Mayfield ends up going 3rd when all is said and done. With so many teams needing a QB we have to do what it takes to move up to 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Pac said: Everything I've read and seen has Allen as the better prospect.. so if someone trades up to 3 for Allen maybe they trade up to 4 for Mayfield. I took a quick look at the teams schedules ahead of us and it doesn't look good. I could absolutely see Darnold - Browns Rosen - Giants Allen - Bills in a trade up Mayfield - Jets in a trade up with the Browns 2nd pick and we won't have to give up a 1st next year IMO because I don't think Elway would trade up for Mayfield but would take him if he is avaiable at their pick. I think we out bid the Cardinals in a trade up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Pac said: If we stay at 10 it might be better to go all in on Cousins. The bidding war for the Colts pick will be gross. Cousins sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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