Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Thread title says it all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Jet Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 What about Allen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Definitely a hot take not being discussed already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morny Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 If we had moved upto 2, would this thread be titled "Rosen, or this trade was an epic fail"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Completely agree. From someone who really likes Mayfield. It’s Rosen/Darnold or bust. Once you actually spend the dough to get to this spot...it really changes your perspective on how risky you want to get because now you have a wider range of possibilities. There was always a chance for Mayfield/Allen prior . . . Now you have a crack at the top of the top no matter how it shakes out(barring a trade down from NYG) 1. Rosen 2. Darnold ZERO exceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBowles Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 I’d be fine with Mayfield too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Obviously they are done with whoever is 3rd on their list. I’m good if it’s Mayfield and ok if it’s Allen. We need any of the 4 period. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Anthony Jet said: What about Allen? I like Quarterbacks that complete passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, morny said: If we had moved upto 2, would this thread be titled "Rosen, or this trade was an epic fail"? No it would say Darnold or Rosen or Fire everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: Completely agree. From someone who really likes Mayfield. It’s Rosen/Darnold or bust. Once you actually spend the dough to get to this spot...it really changes your perspective on how risky you want to get because now you have a wider range of possibilities. There was always a chance for Mayfield/Allen prior . . . Now you have a crack at the top of the top no matter how it shakes out(barring a trade down from NYG) 1. Rosen 2. Darnold ZERO exceptions. So if Rosen and Darnold go 1 and 2, you would forfeit the pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southtown24th Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Or Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, prime21 said: Obviously they are done with whoever is 3rd on their list. I’m good if it’s Mayfield and ok if it’s Allen. We need any of the 4 period. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app One of the 4 would be available at 6 so then the trade is an epic fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: So if Rosen and Darnold go 1 and 2, you would forfeit the pick? Fire everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, Grandy said: I like Quarterbacks that complete passes. Then your gonna love Mayfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: So if Rosen and Darnold go 1 and 2, you would forfeit the pick? That’s clearly not what I said. I agreed the trade would be an epic fail and there are no exceptions to tagging the trade with that label if they don’t get Rosen or Darnold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: That’s clearly not what I said. I agreed the trade would be an epic fail and there are no exceptions to that tagging the trade with that label if they don’t get Rosen or Darnold. This guy gets it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DetroitRed Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 1 minute ago, flgreen said: Then your gonna love Mayfield. I like Mayfield a lot. Have to admit the arm strength is concerning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grandy Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, DetroitRed said: I like Mayfield a lot. Have to admit the arm strength is concerning He actually was the 2nd hardest throwing guy at the combine. 60 MPH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, Patriot Killa said: That’s clearly not what I said. I agreed the trade would be an epic fail and there are no exceptions to tagging the trade with that label if they don’t get Rosen or Darnold. This trade can only be evaluated after these QBs play. You have no idea which of these QBs will pan out. You aren't an expert and even experts are just making educated guesses. You're just giving us your hot take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornJetsFan1983 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Crazy if S Barkley falls to us I'm good, draft qtrback next year , go teddy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 So we are trading up with giants or browns? And what is the price ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: This trade can only be evaluated after these QBs play. You have no idea which of these QBs will pan out. You aren't an expert and even experts are just making educated guesses. You're just giving us your hot take. I am not an expert and you are right, I’m just giving you my best assumption. Do you think I don’t know that? 97% of this board is opinion so don’t act astonished. My opinion is, this trade is an epic fail without getting the top of the top.(in my opinion) How the facts fall into place after the draft are how they fall. You aren’t offering anything ground breaking to any of us here. We know it’s not cold facts yet, we are giving our opinion on what most likely will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 One of the 4 would be available at 6 so then the trade is an epic fail!You can’t risk that staying put. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 Just now, prime21 said: You can’t risk that staying put. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app You can till draft day thou, and if 3 are gone in first 3 then just trade with Browns on draft day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Mac doesn’t make this trade if he’s not sold on rosen AND mayfield. He probably prefers Rosen but is good with taking either. This trade guarantees us getting one of the two. Rosen would be perfect for us but if not mayfield will fit our system and the Jets haven’t had a QB with his aggressive play and attitude on and off the field in forever. I’m more than pleased with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 27 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Definitely a hot take not being discussed already. pwnd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I am not an expert and you are right, I’m just giving you my best assumption. Do you think I don’t know that? 97% of this board is opinion so don’t act astonished. My opinion is, this trade is an epic fail without getting the top of the top.(in my opinion) How the facts fall into place after the draft are how they fall. You aren’t offering anything ground breaking to any of us here. We know it’s not cold facts yet, we are giving our opinion on what most likely will be. Agreed, but there are clearly 4 very highly touted QBs. If I had to rank them in terms of who I'd take it would probably be Darnold.. Rosen... Allen... Mayfield, but I'll be happy with any of them. The reality is that if we didn't make this trade we were facing the possibility of missing out on all 4. The only mistake here was winning 5 meaningless games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Grandy said: I like Quarterbacks that complete passes. That burn though. Well done sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsplayer21 Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jetlife33 said: Mac doesn’t make this trade if he’s not sold on rosen AND mayfield. He probably prefers Rosen but is good with taking either. This trade guarantees us getting one of the two. Rosen would be perfect for us but if not mayfield will fit our system and the Jets haven’t had a QB with his aggressive play and attitude on and off the field in forever. I’m more than pleased with either. So no allen for sure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aagarcia Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, BornJetsFan1983 said: Crazy if S Barkley falls to us I'm good, draft qtrback next year , go teddy! All for this. And the kid loves the Jets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said: I am not an expert and you are right, I’m just giving you my best assumption. Do you think I don’t know that? 97% of this board is opinion so don’t act astonished. My opinion is, this trade is an epic fail without getting the top of the top.(in my opinion) How the facts fall into place after the draft are how they fall. You aren’t offering anything ground breaking to any of us here. We know it’s not cold facts yet, we are giving our opinion on what most likely will be. And who or how are you going to decide today or at draft day who is at the top of the top? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, JoJoTownsell1 said: Agreed, but there are clearly 4 very highly touted QBs. If I had to rank them in terms of who I'd take it would probably be Darnold.. Rosen... Allen... Mayfield, but I'll be happy with any of them. The reality is that if we didn't make this trade we were facing the possibility of missing out on all 4. The only mistake here was winning 5 meaningless games. Very true. The trade holds some value in that regard but how we follow through with it and who we pick is my most important concern in how we view this trade in the long run. I just think when you are in a premium spot like this,, it should be for a premium QB.(Top 1 or 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bla bla bla Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 Title should read "Franchise QB or this trade up was a fail" I think Rosen and Darnold are the top 2 but Mayfield or Allen absolutely have the tools to be franchise guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted March 17, 2018 Share Posted March 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: And who or how are you going to decide today or at draft day who is at the top of the top? You don’t. As I said, however the results fall into place is how they fall. But In my opinion Rosen and Darnold have the highest success rate and for what we paid, I would like an opportunity with one of those two. However Maccagnan views it is what truly matters but as it pertains to my own personal evaluation, it’s those two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted March 17, 2018 Author Share Posted March 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, bla bla bla said: Title should read "Franchise QB or this trade up was a fail" I think Rosen and Darnold are the top 2 but Mayfield or Allen absolutely have the tools to be franchise guys. And one of Mayfield or Allen would be there at 6 so epic fail! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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