The Crusher Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, slats said: Read 'em however you like. I don't think it's deniable that Geno has a ton more physical ability than Ryan Fitzpatrick. He's also completely unlikeable, and the reasons why he's a backup now are clear. If he had a beard like Fitz at the time of the punch this could have had all been avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Genius was certainly faster, bigger, exponentially better arm talent, but—like all of Idzik’s picks—mentally soft to the degree where you wonder how any of them got through the interview phase without anyone in the Jets room picking up on the crazy. As far as prospects go, though, Geno’s resume stacks up with pretty much any QB to come out in the last five years, outside of the psychosis. Looks like a lot of people saw it. There was talk of him going #1 overall at one point, then he slipped to the middle of the second round (and who knows how far he would've dropped if the Jets hadn't bitten). No doubt he's not there mentally and I doubt he's learning much about maturity backing up Rivers, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 33 minutes ago, Warfish said: Of course. Jeff George had a "ton more physical ability" than Joe Montana. It's all about how you use it. One can only wonder why so many Jets Fans were so deeply invested in him if he was and is so unlikeable, and his on-field performance so obviously lacking. Jeff George was a physical specimen. he had it all. If he had the brains of say Brees, Brady or Pennington, he’d have several SBs . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, slats said: Looks like a lot of people saw it. There was talk of him going #1 overall at one point, then he slipped to the middle of the second round (and who knows how far he would've dropped if the Jets hadn't bitten). No doubt he's not there mentally and I doubt he's learning much about maturity backing up Rivers, either. No question a lot of other teams saw it, but the flood of nutbags that Idzik drafted makes you wonder what was going on with the Jets scouting specifically, as to why they placed such minimal emphasis on the psychological profiles. Just odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetspenguin Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Losmeister said: you sound absolutely drunk. Geno is a turnover machine. am not defending fitz neccessarily. but he IS BETTER than geno pinhead smith. certainly, this is saying little, very, in the grand scheme of NFL QBing. highlight/lowlight vids dont tell the whole story just fyi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Dude exposes what a narcissistic imbecile he is on draft night by having to be talked out of getting up to leave the room when he is not drafted where he thought he was going to go. Jets draft him anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Who is Geno Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 45 minutes ago, T0mShane said: No question a lot of other teams saw it, but the flood of nutbags that Idzik drafted makes you wonder what was going on with the Jets scouting specifically, as to why they placed such minimal emphasis on the psychological profiles. Just odd. Idzik also has seven pen pals from 5 different woman’s penitentiary and he loves them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 kill this thread please. we've all said whatever we wanted to. peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Geno Smith is the gift that keeps on giving. But Geno is an important player and a key domino leading to the coming golden age of Jets Football. Sanchez had blown it. He wasnt the guy and the Jets knew it. They knew that despite recent success and having given Sanchez a premature new contract, they had to go in a new direction moving forward. Cue the 2013 draft and a QB class that was in hindsight a total wasteland. EJ Manuel was the only QB taken in the first round (#16 to Buffalo). The Jets threw the dice on Geno Smith early in the second round. Solid, small conference success in college, but with a litany of questions about character and work ethic coming out. Looking back, there wasn't a QB in that draft worth drafting until the 5th round. But the Jets take Smith and in a ridiculous manner befitting the clown show the Ryan Regime was, Geno becomes starter. And is "OK" in 2013, having ups and downs expected of rookies. Smith was named starter going into the 2014 season and thats when the wheels started to come off..His 2014 started with an altercation on an airplane with a flight attendant that ended with him being remove from his flight and questioned by police. The QB then got "exposed" by a groupie he allegedly had sex with. The woman was upset he didn't tell her he had a girlfriend, so she decided to blast him with a 1,300 word post on Baller Alert: 300 actual words and 1,000 with the Facetime screenshot. Not a great look for the team.after the Brett Favre scandal... Monday Night Football against the Chicago Bears in Week 3, Smith's very first play resulted in an interception returned for a touchdown by Ryan Mundy. Smith finished the game with 316 passing yards, a touchdown and 2 interceptions as the Jets lost to the Bears 27-19. During Week 4 against the Detroit Lions, Smith threw for 209 yards with an interception and a lost fumble during the 24-17 loss. On October 3, 2014, Smith was fined $12,000 for yelling profanity at fans while walking to the locker room during halftime in Week 4. Despite this incident, he was allowed to start in Week 5 against the San Diego Chargers, in which he threw for only 27 yards with an interception and was benched for the second half in favor of Michael Vick as the Jets were shut out 31-0. Prior to the Week 5 game, Smith missed a team meeting, eventually admitting that he went to a movie theater in San Diego, unaware that the eastern and pacific time had a 3 hour difference. On October 26, 2014 Smith went 2-of-8 and threw three interceptions before the end of the first quarter against the Bills and was subsequently benched again in favor of Michael Vick. He ended up on a high note against a bad Miami team and was expected to start in 2015. During the offseason, the Jets signed veteran journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick as the backup QB and to help "mentor" Smith...and thats where the fun really begins.... On August 11, 2015, Smith was involved in an altercation with defensive end IK Enemkpali in the locker room. Smith suffered a fractured jaw after Enemkpali punched him in the face over a few hundred dollars and a broken commitment. Smith was ruled out for 6–10 weeks, and Enemkpali was released by the Jets shortly thereafter. Two days later, Smith underwent surgery on his fractured jaw. Ryan Fitzpatrick led the team to a 2–0 record while Smith was injured, so new head coach Todd Bowles decided to continue starting Fitzpatrick, even with Smith being healthy. Fitzpatrick, against a favorable schedule, great weather, and improbable circumstances, breaks Jets single season records in yards and touchdowns. Geno is relegated to backup. Fitzpatrick returns to form in 2016 after an absurd holdout and alienates himself from team Officials and splits the locker room. Geno and his immaturity is cut and the Jets are forced to bring in another aging veteran in Josh McCown and use another 2nd round pick in a draft weak on QBs past the top 2 on Hackenberg. The Jets are left in 2017 with a 39 year old starter, a floundering Bryce Petty, and a guy who cant be trusted to step on the field in a regular season game. McCown plays admirably but not well enough, and true to form gets hurt. The Jets are left at 5-11 and without a future at Quarterback.... And are forced to trade up, and have SAM DARNOLD fall jnto their laps!! Just think. If Geno isn't an immature head case, HE plays that 2015 schedule. He's the one throwing to Marshall, Decker and Enunwa against the easiest schedule in the NFL. Do they make the WC? Who knows. But it would have been more Fools Gold for the Jets. Much like the ancient Vulcan proverb, "Only Nixon could go to China", it took Geno Smith to get to DARNOLD. Geno Smith was the key. He was the domino that had to get punched to start the chain reaction. And for that, we thank you and your epic stupidity Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 3 hours ago, slats said: Looks like a lot of people saw it. There was talk of him going #1 overall at one point, then he slipped to the middle of the second round (and who knows how far he would've dropped if the Jets hadn't bitten). Wasn't there "talk" about Hackenberg going #1 "at one point" too, and he too slipped to the second round and would have slipped much further if the Jets hadn't bitten. SOJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 47 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Fitzpatrick, against a favorable schedule, great weather, and improbable circumstances, breaks Jets single season records in yards and touchdowns. 2 Not yards, just the TDs. One record. With any luck, Darnold will shatter them all in short order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 40 minutes ago, Warfish said: Wasn't there "talk" about Hackenberg going #1 "at one point" too, and he too slipped to the second round and would have slipped much further if the Jets hadn't bitten. SOJ. Hackenberg was mentioned as a potential “first overall pick” after his freshman year, presuming he progressed. Geno was mentioned as a “first overall” after his senior year. Geno, coming out: 4,205 yards, 67% completions, 42 TDs, 6 picks Hackenberg: 2,325 yards, 53% completions, 16 TDs, 6 picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 wildy unpopular... Namath threw an astonishing 70 INT in his 1st three years... turnover machine #1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vudu Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Does he even have a job?Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, DLJ said: Does he even have a job? Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Chargers backup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 12:38 PM, Losmeister said: no way geno ever would a put up the season fitz did, in my eyes. i think that fetch is quite far. and he'll never ever be a starter in the NFL again. i'd say type 5 vs type 7 When I eat healthy, I’m a number 4 kind of guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Chargers backup no one will pass Kellen Clemens for career backup but Geno is still employed so just maybe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoeword Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Geno Smith is the gift that keeps on giving. But Geno is an important player and a key domino leading to the coming golden age of Jets Football. Sanchez had blown it. He wasnt the guy and the Jets knew it. They knew that despite recent success and having given Sanchez a premature new contract, they had to go in a new direction moving forward. Cue the 2013 draft and a QB class that was in hindsight a total wasteland. EJ Manuel was the only QB taken in the first round (#16 to Buffalo). The Jets threw the dice on Geno Smith early in the second round. Solid, small conference success in college, but with a litany of questions about character and work ethic coming out. Looking back, there wasn't a QB in that draft worth drafting until the 5th round. But the Jets take Smith and in a ridiculous manner befitting the clown show the Ryan Regime was, Geno becomes starter. And is "OK" in 2013, having ups and downs expected of rookies. Smith was named starter going into the 2014 season and thats when the wheels started to come off..His 2014 started with an altercation on an airplane with a flight attendant that ended with him being remove from his flight and questioned by police. The QB then got "exposed" by a groupie he allegedly had sex with. The woman was upset he didn't tell her he had a girlfriend, so she decided to blast him with a 1,300 word post on Baller Alert: 300 actual words and 1,000 with the Facetime screenshot. Not a great look for the team.after the Brett Favre scandal... Monday Night Football against the Chicago Bears in Week 3, Smith's very first play resulted in an interception returned for a touchdown by Ryan Mundy. Smith finished the game with 316 passing yards, a touchdown and 2 interceptions as the Jets lost to the Bears 27-19. During Week 4 against the Detroit Lions, Smith threw for 209 yards with an interception and a lost fumble during the 24-17 loss. On October 3, 2014, Smith was fined $12,000 for yelling profanity at fans while walking to the locker room during halftime in Week 4. Despite this incident, he was allowed to start in Week 5 against the San Diego Chargers, in which he threw for only 27 yards with an interception and was benched for the second half in favor of Michael Vick as the Jets were shut out 31-0. Prior to the Week 5 game, Smith missed a team meeting, eventually admitting that he went to a movie theater in San Diego, unaware that the eastern and pacific time had a 3 hour difference. On October 26, 2014 Smith went 2-of-8 and threw three interceptions before the end of the first quarter against the Bills and was subsequently benched again in favor of Michael Vick. He ended up on a high note against a bad Miami team and was expected to start in 2015. During the offseason, the Jets signed veteran journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick as the backup QB and to help "mentor" Smith...and thats where the fun really begins.... On August 11, 2015, Smith was involved in an altercation with defensive end IK Enemkpali in the locker room. Smith suffered a fractured jaw after Enemkpali punched him in the face over a few hundred dollars and a broken commitment. Smith was ruled out for 6–10 weeks, and Enemkpali was released by the Jets shortly thereafter. Two days later, Smith underwent surgery on his fractured jaw. Ryan Fitzpatrick led the team to a 2–0 record while Smith was injured, so new head coach Todd Bowles decided to continue starting Fitzpatrick, even with Smith being healthy. Fitzpatrick, against a favorable schedule, great weather, and improbable circumstances, breaks Jets single season records in yards and touchdowns. Geno is relegated to backup. Fitzpatrick returns to form in 2016 after an absurd holdout and alienates himself from team Officials and splits the locker room. Geno and his immaturity is cut and the Jets are forced to bring in another aging veteran in Josh McCown and use another 2nd round pick in a draft weak on QBs past the top 2 on Hackenberg. The Jets are left in 2017 with a 39 year old starter, a floundering Bryce Petty, and a guy who cant be trusted to step on the field in a regular season game. McCown plays admirably but not well enough, and true to form gets hurt. The Jets are left at 5-11 and without a future at Quarterback.... And are forced to trade up, and have SAM DARNOLD fall jnto their laps!! Just think. If Geno isn't an immature head case, HE plays that 2015 schedule. He's the one throwing to Marshall, Decker and Enunwa against the easiest schedule in the NFL. Do they make the WC? Who knows. But it would have been more Fools Gold for the Jets. Much like the ancient Vulcan proverb, "Only Nixon could go to China", it took Geno Smith to get to DARNOLD. Geno Smith was the key. He was the domino that had to get punched to start the chain reaction. And for that, we thank you and your epic stupidity Geno. that was epic. especially the part about the domino that had to be punched. And all this after someone posted that there is nothing to add to this thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 how Genos righteously shattered mandible has anything to do with the Browns being the Browns is beyond me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Just now, Losmeister said: how Genos righteously shattered mandible has anything to do with the Browns being the Browns is beyond me Thats because you're a Patriots fan trolling the board and playing stupid. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 4:56 AM, jamesr said: He's still working on that West Coast time zone thing ... soon as he gets that nailed, watch out! Well he’s living out there now so he’s probably OK. Watch out when he travels to the East Coast for games though.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The only thing dumber than Geno Smith are jets fans pretending Fitzgarbage was so much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 Rex Ryan was an inept head coach. It's as simple as that. Geno Smith, IMHO, could have been a decent QB. He just never got the right coaching and thus never broke any of his bad habits on the field. The fact is, he took the Jets to 8-8 in his rookie year - a year in which he wasn't even supposed to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beerfish Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Philc1 said: The only thing dumber than Geno Smith are jets fans pretending Fitzgarbage was so much better. Fitzpatrik was light years better than geno with 1/100th of the QB talent. Two classic cases of showing that to be a good Qb you have to have it all. Some physcial talent, smarts, awareness, brains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, Beerfish said: Fitzpatrik was light years better than geno with 1/100th of the QB talent. Two classic cases of showing that to be a good Qb you have to have it all. Some physcial talent, smarts, awareness, brains. Light years better?lol A noodle arm one read qb who could never beat a good defense. I love you calling Fitzgarbage smart. The guy literally tried to pick on Richard Sherman 3 passes in a row once and ofcourse the result was predictable and then he publicly threw the coaching staff under the bus for benching him after he did that, threw 6 INTs in one game and had a crappy record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 hours ago, Freemanm said: Rex Ryan was an inept head coach. It's as simple as that. Geno Smith, IMHO, could have been a decent QB. He just never got the right coaching and thus never broke any of his bad habits on the field. The fact is, he took the Jets to 8-8 in his rookie year - a year in which he wasn't even supposed to start. Rex ruined Geno? That’s a new one. I think a young Bill Walsh would have ruined Geno but hey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 On 7/22/2018 at 9:01 AM, Kleckineau said: They both did make the Hall of Fail Your right. Rex was at least VERY ENTERTAINING..................................................................For two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Philc1 said: Light years better?lol A noodle arm one read qb who could never beat a good defense. I love you calling Fitzgarbage smart. The guy literally tried to pick on Richard Sherman 3 passes in a row once and ofcourse the result was predictable and then he publicly threw the coaching staff under the bus for benching him after he did that, threw 6 INTs in one game and had a crappy record Who holds the record or passing tds in a season for the NY jets? 6-0 down the stretch in 2015, 13 tds - 1 int including a win of the pats. Before the big egg was layed in the last game. Geno could rarely out one full game together, so yeah fitz was light years better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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