Jets Training Camp- 8/18

[Patriot Killa]

Let’s get rolling.

[Patriot Killa]

#Jets practice today is open to the public. Last time that was the case, one fan was screaming about how #NYJ don’t need Sam Darnold.

Wonder if that’ll happen today?

— Connor Hughes (@Connor_J_Hughes) August 18, 2018

[MDL_JET]

The moment of truth, who will be taking the majority of the starter reps. 

[Patriot Killa]

Sam Darnold was sacked twice last night. Once when a back-up center got beat while playing right guard, and one coverage sack when nobody was open. If you got the breakdown from twitter, you would've thought he was taken down six times in a quarter. It's not that bad.

— Glenn Naughton (@AceFan23) August 17, 2018

Some easing perspective from Glenn yesterday

[KRL]

8 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Some easing perspective from Glenn yesterday

Glenn brought the truth, people need to watch the game without a narrative in mind 

[Creepy Lurker]

17 minutes ago, MDL_JET said:

The moment of truth, who will be taking the majority of the starter reps. 

 I think it’ll be Sam and TB even or only slight edge to Sam. Keep that fire lit under him and help TB trade value. More to motivate Sam even more if that’s even possible. 

[Patriot Killa]

My predication is that Sam starts again with Teddy coming in 2nd half just last the Washington game.

Game 4 might be the same.

[Creepy Lurker]

4 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

My predication is that Sam starts again with Teddy coming in 2nd half just last the Washington game.

Game 4 might be the same.

Our unique situation (and lack of other QBs) May lead to Sam/TB playing in the 4th game. I’m sure they can throw McCown in. He has to do SOMETHING to earn some of that $10 million haha. 

[Larz]

Bowles said Darnold got the start to see him go against a tough defense. 

Bowles also said that he will play Darnold in different times of the preseason games 

I don't think Darnold starting is an indication of a change in the depth chart 

It wouldn't surprise me to see Darnold get lots of practice reps but teddy might start the next game to also get him ready and of course to audition him 

Of course Bowles is full of sh*t especially when it comes to camp QB competition so it may be a bunch of hooey 

[bealeb319]

Bowles said Darnold got the start to see him go against a tough defense. 
Bowles also said that he will play Darnold in different times of the preseason games 
I don't think Darnold starting is an indication of a change in the depth chart 
It wouldn't surprise me to see Darnold get lots of practice reps but teddy might start the next game to also get him ready and of course to audition him 
Of course Bowles is full of sh*t especially when it comes to camp QB competition so it may be a bunch of hooey 

If Bowles had his way mccown would be our starter until he retires or even worse we might bring back fitz

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[Patriot Killa]

1 minute ago, bealeb319 said:

If Bowles had his way mccown would be our starter until he retires or even worse we might bring back fitz

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Bealeb...Bowles is the Head Coach...Bowles does have his way. 

With that said, I genuinely believe he will play the best QB and assuming he won’t play a younger guy IF that guy is better than McCown is a little........silly.

[Beerfish]

42 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Some easing perspective from Glenn yesterday

Yeah, except for the fact that another 10 times guys came in free and he had to break the play or get rid of it quicker.  The 'starting' oline was trash.

[Beerfish]

34 minutes ago, KRL said:

Glenn brought the truth, people need to watch the game without a narrative in mind 

Yup watch the game and not the sack totals, wash players came free far more often than just those sacks.  The oline was bad.

[Barry McCockinner]

46 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

What kind of a-hole shows up to do that? I mean c'mon

[Patriot Killa]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

Yeah, except for the fact that another 10 times guys came in free and he had to break the play or get rid of it quicker.  The 'starting' oline was trash.

They didn’t have a good game.

but...

I reserve permanent judgment on the OL until I see Winters and Beachum back in the line up for a few games..I refuse to even react if they have a bad game Week 1 becauss an OL typically has to gel.

Week 5 lets see where they are at.

[slats]

11 minutes ago, Larz said:

It wouldn't surprise me to see Darnold get lots of practice reps but teddy might start the next game to also get him ready and of course to audition him 

I’d expect Darnold to get the lion’s share of QB reps overall today, and about 80% of the starting reps. He’ll then start next week (traditionally the regular season tuneup), and play into the third quarter. 

Then he’ll play a series or two in the last preseason game before finally, officially being named the opening day starter. 

[Larz]

1 minute ago, slats said:

I’d expect Darnold to get the lion’s share of QB reps overall today, and about 80% of the starting reps. He’ll then start next week (traditionally the regular season tuneup), and play into the third quarter. 

Then he’ll play a series or two in the last preseason game before finally, officially being named the opening day starter. 

That's also possible but I hate to be that guy but this is Bowles we're talking about. 

Whatever happens it will be so nice next year for a normal camp where Darnold is entrenched and the backups are trying to compete for scraps 

[Charlie Brown]

1 hour ago, Patriot Killa said:

I will ask person screaming at a Jet camp saying we don’t need Danold is a fruitcake and I’m just trying to find out who it is out here    

I will break tradition here and say that the OL is so bad that the Jets should start TB!!! Yes that is right, I would start TB for four games and look to trade him and bring in Darnold at that point.   

Give him and the OL time to get together a little more. 

[Beerfish]

9 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

They didn’t have a good game.

but...

I reserve permanent judgment on the OL until I see Winters and Beachum back in the line up for a few games..I refuse to even react if they have a bad game Week 1 becauss an OL typically has to gel.

Week 5 lets see where they are at.

The issue is, part of an "oline" is depth.  The jets have put so few resources in the oline and have been just happy to hang on to guys they know that can never push the starters.

Also injury history is part of player analysis.

Guys like Qvale and Dozier have been here 3 or more years and have not made a solid push for starter status, they are fill ins.  And our oline was no great shakes to begin with.

We are going to have to tailor make our offense and game plan to take into account a bad oline and that is on the gm.

[Patriot Killa]

3 minutes ago, Beerfish said:

The issue is, part of an "oline" is depth.  The jets have put so few resources in the oline and have been just happy to hang on to guys they know that can never push the starters.

Also injury history is part of player analysis.

Guys like Qvale and Dozier have been here 3 or more years and have not made a solid push for starter status, they are fill ins.  And our oline was no great shakes to begin with.

We are going to have to tailor make our offense and game plan to take into account a bad oline and that is on the gm.

Oh I agree. The depth is absolutely terrible and the starters are nothing to write home about either. It’s a terrible situation and it must be fixed next offseason.

I think that’s on the top of Macc’s priorities list.

OLB

OL

[Spoot-Face]

23 minutes ago, Patriot Killa said:

Oh I agree. The depth is absolutely terrible and the starters are nothing to write home about either. It’s a terrible situation and it must be fixed next offseason.

I think that’s on the top of Macc’s priorities list.

OLB

OL

Macc's priorities list:

1. Coffee

2. Send thank you note to Chris Johnson

3. More coffee

4. Buy stock in Starbucks

5. Re-sign Buster Skrine

6. Follow Jamal Adams on Twitter

7. More extensions

8. Visit hospital for injured football players

9. Renew his lease on his New York home

10. BAP

[jack48]

1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said:

 I think it’ll be Sam and TB even or only slight edge to Sam. Keep that fire lit under him and help TB trade value. More to motivate Sam even more if that’s even possible. 

Who plays Game 4?

[KRL]

FYI, as I watch the MIN/JAX game Bortles is being Bortles as he threw a hideous INT.

Will JAX come knocking for Bridgewater?

[T0mShane]

1 hour ago, Beerfish said:

Yup watch the game and not the sack totals, wash players came free far more often than just those sacks.  The oline was bad.

Jets also averaged 2.9 yards per carry last week, and that includes a couple of long runs from Atkinson. The line has been bad.

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, KRL said:

FYI, as I watch the MIN/JAX game Bortles is being Bortles as he threw a hideous INT.

Will JAX come knocking for Bridgewater?

You think they're going to go trade for a QB because the starting QB threw an INT in preseason? ?

[CrazyCarl40]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Jets also averaged 2.9 yards per carry last week, and that includes a couple of long runs from Atkinson. The line has been bad.

But only 2 sacks and that’s because the backupzzz!

[Barry McCockinner]

1 minute ago, T0mShane said:

Jets also averaged 2.9 yards per carry last week, and that includes a couple of long runs from Atkinson. The line has been bad.

I noticed them really moving the LOS on a few plays. 2.9 ypc sounds trash but I was pleasantly surprised seeing them move bodies around.

[CrazyCarl40]

5 minutes ago, KRL said:

FYI, as I watch the MIN/JAX game Bortles is being Bortles as he threw a hideous INT.

Will JAX come knocking for Bridgewater?

Teddy Bridgewaters best year would Bortles 4th best year. 

[nycdan]

22 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Macc's priorities list:

10. BAP

That should probably read BADP.

[joewilly12]

1 hour ago, Barry McCockinner said:

What kind of a-hole shows up to do that? I mean c'mon

Its a guy they call cuz if you seen him you would understand. 

Dude is an attention whore thats it. 

[Joe W. Namath]

3 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Teddy Bridgewaters best year would Bortles 4th best year. 

Hahahahaha.  so true.  Bortles threw 35tds one year.  It would take teddy 3 seasons to do that.

[nycdan]

9 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said:

Teddy Bridgewaters best year would Bortles 4th best year. 

So just for a little data...Bortles has played four years.  His 4th best year he had 11 TD, 17 INTs, 58.9% Completion pct. and a QB Rating of 69.5.  

Bridgewaters' best year?  14 TDs, 9 INTs, 65.3% completion rate and QB rating of 88.7.

Nothing like the bright light of data to mess up some fat hyperbole

 

Having said all that, I think Bortles is better than most give him credit for but definitely prone to bad stretches that can kill a team.  And Bridgewater is probably not as good as his rep might suggest.  If anything, I'd put them at about the same level in terms of what I'd expect from them with a slight edge to Bortles because he did have that one very good season and Teddy hasn't shown his ceiling yet.

[Patriot Killa]

Jaguars rest of season plan:

Step 1: Call Jets.
Step 2: Offer second-round pick for Teddy Bridgewater.
Step 3: Win Super Bowl.

— Will Brinson (@WillBrinson) August 18, 2018

Jags beat writer.

[Patriot Killa]

Can we pull off 2nd rounder AND Fowler(who they are disgusted with right now)

for Teddy?

Similar to Kearse and 2nd for Sheldon

[Joe W. Namath]

Just now, Patriot Killa said:

Jags beat writer.

That would be the steal of the century.  Too bad tom coughlin isnt an idiot.