PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 ... and the everyone seems to want an average backup quarterback with no coaching experience to put on a polo next season. What's the logic behind that? What role would he even be in? Prepared for butt fumble votes (even though it was Moore's fault). But it's the truth. Enough with inexperienced coaches. We already have an idiot that sucks at time management at the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I know i'm only interested in Josh McCown as a QB coach not a HC or OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 If a new coach coach comes in you have no worries he will want his own guy to be a Qb coach. No need to get worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, PCP63 said: ... and the everyone seems to want an average backup quarterback with no coaching experience to put on a polo next season. What's the logic behind that? What role would he even be in? Prepared for butt fumble votes (even though it was Moore's fault). But it's the truth. Enough with inexperienced coaches. We already have an idiot that sucks at time management at the head. I'm not sure what your argument is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 The Jets have one, maybe two pro bowlers this year and it's a safety and returner. They were a 5-11 team last year and the franchise threw out essentially the same roster with a rookie quarterback, and then injuries piled up mid-season just when the team was playing slightly below average and probably above expectations. I have no idea how much of a part Bowles played in that but in terms of strictly game day I'm not sure what anyone was expecting of him. Bowles is definitely a goner and deservedly so, but the problems with this franchise go way beyond the coach and I don't think it really matters who they hire to replace him; so long as the guy up in the front office doesn't know how to draft or who to pay in free agency the Jets are screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I know i'm only interested in Josh McCown as a QB coach not a HC or OC. With what qualifications? There are tons of better candidates out there with actual experience and success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, PCP63 said: With what qualifications? There are tons of better candidates out there with actual experience and success. Frank Reich,Alex Van Pelt as example all had to start somewhere. McCown seems to get along great with Sam Darnold and seems to be helping him succeed. Sorry Rich Gannon isn't a coach he's a commentator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, joewilly12 said: Frank Reich, Rich Gannon as examples all had to start somewhere. McCown seems to get along great with Sam Darnold and seems to be helping him succeed. But how do we know he's helping him succeed? We don't see what goes on behind the scenes. And with a potential franchise QB, why take a risk on an inexperienced coach? Hell, I'd take a risk even on a guy like Darin Slack before McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 minute ago, PCP63 said: But how do we know he's helping him succeed? We don't see what goes on behind the scenes. And with a potential franchise QB, why take a risk on an inexperienced coach? Hell, I'd take a risk even on a guy like Darin Slack before McCown. Years past I have noticed NY Jets QB's come off the field and sit or stand now you see them looking at the laptop or being talked to by someone mainly McCown here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Everyone?? I said we don’t need a $10 million cheerleader and didn’t want him back for more then the vet minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Years past I have noticed NY Jets QB's come off the field and sit or stand now you see them looking at the laptop or being talked to by someone mainly McCown here. I'm sure his playing experience is valuable, but not enough to make him a coach. Maybe an ASSISTANT, learning under an experienced coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 15 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Everyone! It’s the same people that wanted Chad Pennington as a quarterback coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, New York Mick said: Everyone?? I said we don’t need a $10 million cheerleader and didn’t want him back for more then the vet minimum. I am as much against McCown for $10 million as I was Fitzpatrick $14 million as backup QB's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeptable Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, New York Mick said: It’s the same people that wanted Chad Pennington as a quarterback coach I still do want Pennington as QB coach but he started his own HS Football team... He wouldn't give that up... People act like this is a bad idea when in reality a lot of ex-QBs become coaches and most start as a QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 Just now, Skeptable said: I still do want Pennington as QB coach but he started his own HS Football team... He wouldn't give that up... People act like this is a bad idea when in reality a lot of ex-QBs become coaches and most start as a QB coach. Is Joe Namath too old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Skeptable said: I still do want Pennington as QB coach but he started his own HS Football team... He wouldn't give that up... People act like this is a bad idea when in reality a lot of ex-QBs become coaches and most start as a QB coach. And many are crappy coaches. You don't take risks on inexperience when you have a potential franchise QB. Very few exceptions to that rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, New York Mick said: It’s the same people that wanted Chad Pennington as a quarterback coach Its like a cycle. I guess comes from the whole,"Those who can;t do coach" thing. Personally never bought that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: I am as much against McCown for $10 million as I was Fitzpatrick $14 million as backup QB's I forgot about Fitz. They wanted him for a coach to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Skeptable said: I still do want Pennington as QB coach but he started his own HS Football team... He wouldn't give that up... People act like this is a bad idea when in reality a lot of ex-QBs become coaches and most start as a QB coach. If they start out as an assistant coach. You don’t just send them to the top because they played the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embrace the Suck Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 53 minutes ago, PCP63 said: ... and the everyone seems to want an average backup quarterback with no coaching experience to put on a polo next season. What's the logic behind that? What role would he even be in? Prepared for butt fumble votes (even though it was Moore's fault). But it's the truth. Enough with inexperienced coaches. We already have an idiot that sucks at time management at the head. You're going to have to try much harder than that if you want a butt fumble as it's a valid question. I think people see a player with a lot of experience who was able to hang around because he learned the ins and outs of the game and while never great was good enough for stretches. They see him being a potentially good mentor (who really knows) and figure maybe he could be a position coach initially. I could go either way. Being good at something doesn't always mean you can teach it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: I know i'm only interested in Josh McCown as a QB coach not a HC or OC. I think he'd be a terrific QB coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choon328 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 I can also argue that McCown not being there next year will do more harm to Darnold than him being the QB Coach. Everything Darnold knows about being a professional on and off the field is from McCown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 If we were to groom someone... what's Pennington doing? HE in my mind would be a good offensive mind. Someone might have to hold the clipboard for him though.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, New York Mick said: I forgot about Fitz. They wanted him for a coach to I'd think of the 2 McCown would be a better coach. IMO he's more of a team guy while Fritz always struck me as more of a Fritz only guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai Jet Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, southparkcpa said: If we were to groom someone... what's Pennington doing? HE in my mind would be a good offensive mind. Someone might have to hold the clipboard for him though.;) He's coaching middle school football in Lexington, Kentucky, The schools colors are, interesting enough, green and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCP63 Posted December 17, 2018 Author Share Posted December 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, Thai Jet said: I think he'd be a terrific QB coach. Based on what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, PCP63 said: ... and the everyone seems to want an average backup quarterback with no coaching experience to put on a polo next season. What's the logic behind that? What role would he even be in? Prepared for butt fumble votes (even though it was Moore's fault). But it's the truth. Enough with inexperienced coaches. We already have an idiot that sucks at time management at the head. Venturing to guess nobody else understands this post either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, RutgersJetFan said: The Jets have one, maybe two pro bowlers this year and it's a safety and returner. They were a 5-11 team last year and the franchise threw out essentially the same roster with a rookie quarterback, and then injuries piled up mid-season just when the team was playing slightly below average and probably above expectations. I have no idea how much of a part Bowles played in that but in terms of strictly game day I'm not sure what anyone was expecting of him. Bowles is definitely a goner and deservedly so, but the problems with this franchise go way beyond the coach and I don't think it really matters who they hire to replace him; so long as the guy up in the front office doesn't know how to draft or who to pay in free agency the Jets are screwed. If your house collapses, you don’t start rebuilding from the roof. If the QB is the foundation, the coach is the mortar of the foundation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, PCP63 said: ... and the everyone seems to want an average backup quarterback with no coaching experience to put on a polo next season. What's the logic behind that? What role would he even be in? Prepared for butt fumble votes (even though it was Moore's fault). But it's the truth. Enough with inexperienced coaches. We already have an idiot that sucks at time management at the head. I buttfumbled this for blaming the actual buttfumble on the person who had his ass run into. Head first by one of the worst QBs in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, jgb said: If your house collapses, you don’t start rebuilding from the roof. The if the QB is the foundation, the coach is the mortar of the foundation. The QB is the vibranium and everybody still doesn't know where Wakanda is. In 2018 finding a QB is harder than finding a coach and/or good quarterbacks can carry average coaches more than vice versa. It's hard to take much from Darnold right now because rookie years are generally a wash but I'm a fan. As a front office we don't look good going forward, but there are worse positions to be in than a blue chip QB, tons of cap room, and a top pick. If the Jets are going to actually work at building something they are in a great position to do it. Macaggnan lucked into Darnold so I'm hoping that can carry over into the Spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 19 minutes ago, PCP63 said: Based on what? What pretty much everyone has worked with him says. you know as opposed to a kid on the internet questioning it. As if QB coach is a ridiculously hard job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jet Nut said: I buttfumbled this for blaming the actual buttfumble on the person who had his ass run into. Head first by one of the worst QBs in the NFL And yet Jets somehow found a way to downgrade with Geno “Me was at movies” Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighPitch Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Frank Reich,Alex Van Pelt as example all had to start somewhere. McCown seems to get along great with Sam Darnold and seems to be helping him succeed. Sorry Rich Gannon isn't a coach he's a commentator. Yea but joe the op is complaining about our constant turning to unknown inexperienced coaches. I agree with him. Who says mccown would make a good coach? Why do we always lately want "up and coming" asst coaches instead of experienced ones? Half the people on this board scoff at a super bowl winner with a killer winning career record in mccarthy. I dunno... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted December 17, 2018 Share Posted December 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, PCP63 said: Based on what? It's QB coach not offensive coordinator. Being a 40 year old former NFL QB who has experience working with darnold and has a built in rapport with darnold makes him about as qualified as just about anyone else. Zac Taylor was a graduate assistant in college one year at 27 and the next year he was assistant qb coach at 28 and then at 29 he was QB coach in Miami. Pretty sure mccown has more QB experience than Taylor did before becoming a QB coach the first time. No one is asking him to design plays and a game plan. Just help the young QB along the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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