Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 18M signing bonus and gets half guaranteed. Strong deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post slats Posted August 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2020 That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 Just now, slats said: That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. Yep. They paid him like a mid-level number one wide receiver, which is what you wanted and seems fair. Not sure it will truly reset the market for other tight ends because the only ones even arguably in his class are Kelce and Ertz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, slats said: That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. In a previous thread I mentioned that Jarvis Landry makes $15.1M per (# 11 for WRs) and Kittle, who of course operates out of the slot a ton, should be getting about that much, too. Good on the 49ers for making that deal. I'm sure Jimmy Graham and Travis Kelce are both weeping right now, but the top-end TE salaries needed this kick in the pants. Great news for elite under-30 guys like Mark Andrews, Evan Engram and Darren Waller. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBeardedSavage Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 He's the rare exception that outperforms the value of his position. Good signing. Best run-blocking TE, elite receiving weapon, by all accounts a good teammate, a perfect fit for Shanny's offense and 26 years old. Lynch was smart to trade Buckner and re-sign Kittle. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Big boost to the TE position. It's what Adams expects (boost over present #1). Good luck with that Seattle. Tight End Contracts QuarterbackRunning BackFullbackWide ReceiverTight EndLeft TackleLeft GuardCenterRight GuardRight TackleInterior Defensive LineEdge RusherLinebackerSafetyCornerbackKickerPunterLong Snapper Full Contract19901991199219931994199519961997199819992000200120022003200420052006200720082009201020112012201320142015201620172018201920202021202220232024 Player Team Age Total Value Avg./Year Total Guaranteed Fully Guaranteed Free Agency Hunter Henry Chargers 26 $10,607,000 $10,607,000 $10,607,000 $10,607,000 2021 UFA Austin Hooper Browns 26 $42,000,000 $10,500,000 $23,000,000 $18,500,000 2024 Void Travis Kelce Chiefs 31 $46,842,000 $9,368,400 $20,017,000 $10,517,000 2022 UFA Kyle Rudolph Vikings 31 $36,100,000 $9,025,000 $16,025,000 $9,000,000 2024 UFA Rob Gronkowski Buccaneers 31 $54,000,000 $9,000,000 $18,170,000 $13,170,000 2021 UFA Zach Ertz Eagles 30 $42,500,000 $8,500,000 $20,000,000 $13,318,527 2022 Void Jimmy Graham Bears 34 $16,000,000 $8,000,000 $9,000,000 $9,000,000 2022 UFA Jared Cook Saints 33 $15,000,000 $7,500,000 $8,000,000 $8,000,000 2021 Void Darren Waller Raiders 28 $29,800,004 $7,450,001 $16,520,004 $3,220,004 2024 UFA Tyler Higbee Rams 27 $29,000,000 $7,250,000 $15,025,000 $10,025,000 2024 UFA Jack Doyle Colts 30 $21,300,000 $7,100,000 $12,250,000 $10,250,000 2023 UFA Greg Olsen Seahawks 35 $7,000,000 $7,000,000 $5,500,000 $5,500,000 2021 UFA Cameron Brate Buccaneers 29 $40,800,000 $6,800,000 $18,000,000 $7,000,000 2024 UFA C.J. Uzomah Bengals 27 $18,300,000 $6,100,000 $6,250,000 $6,250,000 2022 UFA Nick Boyle Ravens 27 $18,000,000 $6,000,000 $10,000,000 $10,000,000 2022 UFA Eric Ebron Steelers 27 $12,000,000 $6,000,000 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 2022 UFA Jesse James Lions 26 $22,600,000 $5,650,000 $10,500,000 $10,500,000 2023 Void Blake Jarwin Cowboys 26 $22,000,000 $5,500,000 $9,250,000 $6,250,000 2024 UFA Vance McDonald Steelers 30 $10,300,000 $5,150,000 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 2022 UFA T.J. Hockenson Lions 23 $19,821,226 $4,955,307 $19,821,226 $19,821,226 2023 UFA Tyler Eifert Jaguars 30 $9,500,000 $4,750,000 $3,250,000 $3,250,000 2022 UFA Jason Witten Raiders 38 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $3,500,000 $3,500,000 2021 UFA Tyler Kroft Bills 28 $4,000,000 $4,000,000 $3,400,000 $3,400,000 2021 UFA Jacob Hollister Seahawks 27 $3,259,000 $3,259,000 $0 $0 2021 UFA Ryan Griffin Jets 30 $9,550,000 $3,183,333 $4,328,823 $4,328,823 2023 UFA Darren Fells Texans 34 $6,300,000 $3,150,000 $2,000,000 $2,000,000 2022 UFA Noah Fant Broncos 23 $12,590,724 $3,147,681 $12,590,724 $12,590,724 2023 UFA 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Yep. They paid him like a mid-level number one wide receiver, which is what you wanted and seems fair. Not sure it will truly reset the market for other tight ends because the only ones even arguably in his class are Kelce and Ertz Mark Andrews is a top 5 guy. 24 years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mark Andrews is a top 5 guy. 24 years old. Andrews is very good. But he's not anywhere near in Kittle's class. Not anywhere near as good of a blocker, and not as threatening a receiver. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Doggin94it said: Andrews is very good. But he's not anywhere near in Kittle's class. Not anywhere near as good of a blocker, and not as threatening a receiver. No, but last year was only his 2nd season in the league. He's going to get better. He won't get Kittle money. But he won't just have to fall in line with what the previous top TEs were making, like Travis Kelce did. He'll probably be able to command something like $12-13M per. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 17 minutes ago, Dcat said: Big boost to the TE position. It's what Adams expects (boost over present #1). Good luck with that Seattle. How he fares against Kittle twice this year will probably help to decide that matter. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Jamal's ask just went up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Doggin94it said: 18M signing bonus and gets half guaranteed. Strong deal Good thing the Jets passed on him like 11 times when they desperately needed a TE as this board would freak out over the contract. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lupz27 said: Good thing the Jets passed on him like 11 times when they desperately needed a TE as this board would freak out over the contract. I'd be more than happy to be paying George Kittle $15M per right now. This idea that Jets fans don't want anybody to get paid is a complete myth. The problem is the Jets never have anybody worth getting paid, particularly at premium positions (not since Revis, 10 years ago, at least - which Jets fans were in full support of when it happened). And when guys DO get paid to stay or come here, it tends to end up being a situation like Muhammad Wilkerson or Trumaine Johnson. If Darnold has even a top-20 QB season next year, just about everyone here will be clamoring for an extension. The same would be true if Chris Herndon demonstrates he's a top 15 TE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Mark Andrews is a top 5 guy. 24 years old. I rode that guy to the finals of my FF league. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, slats said: That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. Watch out for Chris Herndon resetting the market AGAIN!!! 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Positional value gets fisted again lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: In a previous thread I mentioned that Jarvis Landry makes $15.1M per (# 11 for WRs) and Kittle, who of course operates out of the slot a ton, should be getting about that much, too. Good on the 49ers for making that deal. I'm sure Jimmy Graham and Travis Kelce are both weeping right now, but the top-end TE salaries needed this kick in the pants. Great news for elite under-30 guys like Mark Andrews, Evan Engram and Darren Waller. Hardly. The guy lives on IR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, Larz said: Positional value gets fisted again lol No one ever argued that a premier TE isn't a premium player. Just like a pass-rushing DT is a premium player but a run-stuffing DT is not. Only now are the top-end TEs going to start to get paid like they should have been all along. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Here's a question that I know I will regret asking, but what the hell. Straight up, would you have rather had Kittle or Adams on the team for the next 5 years at $15MM/year? Not that Adams would even consider that, but money aside, which of them would be more valuable to this team? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, nycdan said: Here's a question that I know I will regret asking, but what the hell. Straight up, would you have rather had Kittle or Adams on the team for the next 5 years at $15MM/year? Not that Adams would even consider that, but money aside, which of them would be more valuable to this team? Kittle a million times over. This would be a day of celebration on JN if Kittle was a Jet and just got signed to this exact same extension. Kittle is essentially like a top 15 WR who is also an elite run-blocking TE. That's a premium talent. Best at his position, one which has a far more tangible impact than SS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I just can't wait for Trevon Wesco to become our geroge kittle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdxgreen Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Jets TE joke... money money... yadda yadda yadda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Meanwhile, the Chiefs are closing in on a new deal for Kelce: https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-travis-kelce-contract-extension Chiefs closing in on signing Travis Kelce to long-term extension Published: Aug 13, 2020 at 02:13 PM Kevin Patra Around the NFL Writer It's Tight Ends Day in the NFL. After George Kittle agreed to a massive five-year, $75 million extension with the San Francisco 49ers, it's Travis Kelce's turn to dive into the money pit. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that the Kansas City Chiefs are closing in on signing Kelce to a four-year extension keeping him in K.C. for the next six seasons, per sources informed of the situation. Turning 31 in October, Kelce has two years left on his contract with salary cap figures of $11.2 million in 2020 and $9 million in 2021. The extension would take him well into the back half of his 30s. Averaging $9.53 million on his five-year extension signed in 2016, the new deal is expected to pay the star tight end closer in line to his worth. It will be interesting to see how close Kelce gets to Kittle's $15 million-per-year mark, given the five-year age difference between the two TEs. Rapoport noted on Inside Training Camp Live on NFL Network that while the average per year could be close between Kittle and Kelce, the structures of the deals are expected to be different. Given that the tight end market has been woefully behind the worth of the top players at the position -- thanks largely to Rob Gronkowski taking a below-market deal early on in his career -- Kelce getting a deserved leap in payment is a positive development for the entire position group. Expect Zach Ertz in Philly to be the next TE in line for a big extension. The Chiefs, during a pandemic, continue to lock down key starters after signing Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones to massive long-term deals. A key target for Mahomes, Kelce is a pass-catching tight end who can box out corners and safeties and outrun linebackers. The five-time Pro Bowler and two-time first-team All-Pro player has generated four straight seasons with at least 1,000 receiving yards. In two years with Mahomes at the helm, Kelce has generated 2,565 receiving yards and 15 TDs. These are wide receiver numbers. Now Mahomes will have one of his favorite targets to throw to for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, slats said: That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. Let’s hope Sam looks for Mims way more than Herndon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: I just can't wait for Trevon Wesco to become our geroge kittle. I totally ageroge on with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Meanwhile, the Chiefs are closing in on a new deal for Kelce: https://www.nfl.com/news/chiefs-travis-kelce-contract-extension Chiefs closing in on signing Travis Kelce to long-term extension Published: Aug 13, 2020 at 02:13 PM Kevin Patra Around the NFL Writer It's Tight Ends Day in the NFL. After George Kittle agreed to a massive five-year, $75 million extension with the San Francisco 49ers, it's Travis Kelce's turn to dive into the money pit. NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported that the Kansas City Chiefs are closing in on signing Kelce to a four-year extension keeping him in K.C. for the next six seasons, per sources informed of the situation. Turning 31 in October, Kelce has two years left on his contract with salary cap figures of $11.2 million in 2020 and $9 million in 2021. The extension would take him well into the back half of his 30s. Averaging $9.53 million on his five-year extension signed in 2016, the new deal is expected to pay the star tight end closer in line to his worth. It will be interesting to see how close Kelce gets to Kittle's $15 million-per-year mark, given the five-year age difference between the two TEs. Rapoport noted on Inside Training Camp Live on NFL Network that while the average per year could be close between Kittle and Kelce, the structures of the deals are expected to be different. Given that the tight end market has been woefully behind the worth of the top players at the position -- thanks largely to Rob Gronkowski taking a below-market deal early on in his career -- Kelce getting a deserved leap in payment is a positive development for the entire position group. Expect Zach Ertz in Philly to be the next TE in line for a big extension. The Chiefs, during a pandemic, continue to lock down key starters after signing Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones to massive long-term deals. A key target for Mahomes, Kelce is a pass-catching tight end who can box out corners and safeties and outrun linebackers. The five-time Pro Bowler and two-time first-team All-Pro player has generated four straight seasons with at least 1,000 receiving yards. In two years with Mahomes at the helm, Kelce has generated 2,565 receiving yards and 15 TDs. These are wide receiver numbers. Now Mahomes will have one of his favorite targets to throw to for years to come. I don't know if I'd be paying a lot for a 31 year old TE when I got a qb like Mahomes back there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 5 hours ago, slats said: That's a severe market reset. 50% above the current highest paid TEs. SS #'s will sink.... jajajajajaja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggs Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 It shouldn't be a reset for TE. Kittle is more valuable to SF because of their zone running game. In SF's O the TE and the fullback make their O go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Doggin94it said: Yep. They paid him like a mid-level number one wide receiver, which is what you wanted and seems fair. Not sure it will truly reset the market for other tight ends because the only ones even arguably in his class are Kelce and Ertz Hopefully we'll add Herndon to the list soon enough, if he can stay on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, nycdan said: Here's a question that I know I will regret asking, but what the hell. Straight up, would you have rather had Kittle or Adams on the team for the next 5 years at $15MM/year? Not that Adams would even consider that, but money aside, which of them would be more valuable to this team? Kittle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doggin94it Posted August 13, 2020 Author Share Posted August 13, 2020 4 hours ago, Beerfish said: I just can't wait for Trevon Wesco to become our geroge kittle. More like Kerry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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