GreekJet Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Flores pulled Tua today, but said he will start next week. Either way you have to think he will be a short leash next week. I think the Dolphins losing this week is great for the Jets. Hopefully Flores has them ready to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted November 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, GreekJet said: Flores pulled Tua today, but said he will start next week. Either way you have to think he will be a short leash next week. I think the Dolphins losing this week is great for the Jets. Hopefully Flores has them ready to go. Would much rather see Fitz. He puts Miami in the better position to win that game 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 worried about the Dolphins game. Two things I don't like: 1) Tua had a rough game today and you might wonder about his confidence immediately after a benching. One little nugget - Tua already has three starts with less than 200 yards passing. He's not doing a lot compared to some other rookie's I could mention . . . 2) I don't like how non-competitive the first game was. You rarely get one team sweeping the other with two blowouts. Next week's game is probably going to be close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, slimjasi said: worried about the Dolphins game. Two things I don't like: 1) Tua had a rough game today and you might wonder about his confidence immediately after a benching. One little nugget - Tua already has three starts with less than 200 yards passing. He's not doing a lot compared to some other rookie's I could mention . . . 2) I don't like how non-competitive the first game was. You rarely get one team sweeping the other with two blowouts. Next week's game is probably going to be close. Especially is Sam plays. He could have a major chip on his shoulder. We’ve seen him have huge games before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Especially is Sam plays. He could have a major chip on his shoulder. We’ve seen him have huge games before We have? 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Especially is Sam plays. He could have a major chip on his shoulder. We’ve seen him have huge games before If Sam is playing we have nothing to worry about. We will lose. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Icer said: We have? Did you not watch Sam the 2nd half of last year? He went 6-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 44 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Would much rather see Fitz. He puts Miami in the better position to win that game Fitz is a career loser who collapses every single time he has to play a game of any importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Prodigal Syndicate said: Fitz is a career loser who collapses every single time he has to play a game of any importance. He’s the much better option than Tua 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Rhg1084 said: He’s the much better option than Tua He really isnt. You gain absolutely nothing with Fitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I don’t like either option for them. Tua is a painfully safe and average QB, but Fitz could throw the game away in an instant. We will need to hope that their defense and special teams continue to bring it otherwise they are going to sputter overall real fast and could definitely lose to the Jets 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He really isnt. You gain absolutely nothing with Fitz. Tua has thrown for less than 200 yards in three starts already. I'm sure there are plays down the field that Tua is not making that Fitz would. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 49 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Especially is Sam plays. He could have a major chip on his shoulder. We’ve seen him have huge games before Darnold hasn't been appreciably better than Flacco this year and we've seen very few "huge games" from Sam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, slimjasi said: Tua has thrown for less than 200 yards in three starts already. I'm sure there are plays down the field that Tua is not making that Fitz would. Tua is a rookie QB. You ride him to see what you have. Fitz would find ways to throw interceptions and lose games like he always does. You gain absolutely nothing by starting him. He isnt leading you to the playoffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: He’s the much better option than Tua No. He's not. He's a career loser with a career losing record of 58-86-1 (.397%) along with 16 years of NFL experience with a whopping 0 playoff games played. 58-86-1 (.397%). 16 years. 0 playoff appearances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: Tua is a rookie QB. You ride him to see what you have. Fitz would find ways to throw interceptions and lose games like he always does. You gain absolutely nothing by starting him. He isnt leading you to the playoffs. Oh, I would absolutely ride him. I'm just saying that there are plays that Fitz makes that Tua probably doesn't right now, based on his very mediocre passing production. The guy isn't throwing the ball down the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defense Wins Championships Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, slimjasi said: Tua has thrown for less than 200 yards in three starts already. And Fitzpatrick has thrown for under 200 yards 72 different times.... He's nothing more than a career loser with a career losing record of 58-86-1 (.397%) along with 16 years of NFL experience with a whopping 0 playoff games played. He's absolutely pathetic... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Defense Wins Championships said: And Fitzpatrick has thrown for under 200 yards 72 different times.... Not relevant to my point. Compare Tua's passing production this year to Fitzpatrick's. Tua hasn't done much yet. Now, I would not play Fitz because you already know Fitz isn't taking you anywhere. I get that. So I agree that they shouldn't be benching Tua. All I'm saying is, they probably aren't thrilled with Tua's production so far at all. They have been winning, so nobody has been looking very closely. But Tua hasn't made a lot of plays down the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 No reason to not play Tua over Fitzpatrick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icer Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 38 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Did you not watch Sam the 2nd half of last year? He went 6-2 During the best 8 game stretch of his career he averaged 243 YPG and 1.6 TD, so I'm not seeing much 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, kdels62 said: No reason to not play Tua over Fitzpatrick. Agree completely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, Icer said: During the best 8 game stretch of his career he averaged 243 YPG and 1.6 TD, so I'm not seeing much And, in his crucial third season, he has 3 TDs in six starts. When is he required to start throwing touchdown passes? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 48 minutes ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: He really isnt. You gain absolutely nothing with Fitz. Fitz has 3 game with over 315 yards out of 6 and a 70% comp rate, tua has a 60% comp rate and has thrown for 83,93,169 and 248 yards. Fitz turns it over ore but is far more dangerous at this point in both their careers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoJoTownsell1 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Rhg1084 said: Would much rather see Fitz. He puts Miami in the better position to win that game Was thinking the same thing.. The Jets secondary is a mess.. Fitz would have no problem handling whatever tricks Greg williams tries. But Gregg williams would have a much better chance against an inexperienced young QB that's struggling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 We have?He does have a pattern of playing better in the second half of the season. Although he also has a pattern of playing terrible against the Fins. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, slimjasi said: worried about the Dolphins game. Two things I don't like: 1) Tua had a rough game today and you might wonder about his confidence immediately after a benching. One little nugget - Tua already has three starts with less than 200 yards passing. He's not doing a lot compared to some other rookie's I could mention . . . 2) I don't like how non-competitive the first game was. You rarely get one team sweeping the other with two blowouts. Next week's game is probably going to be close. We're not winning a game this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Beerfish said: Fitz has 3 game with over 315 yards out of 6 and a 70% comp rate, tua has a 60% comp rate and has thrown for 83,93,169 and 248 yards. Fitz turns it over ore but is far more dangerous at this point in both their careers And when it matters most he will do what he always does. Fitz pads his stats against bad teams. Its what he has done his whole career. He is a one read chucker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Bruce Harper said: He does have a pattern of playing better in the second half of the season. Although he also has a pattern of playing terrible against the Fins. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app samsucks move on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 7 hours ago, slimjasi said: worried about the Dolphins game. Two things I don't like: 1) Tua had a rough game today and you might wonder about his confidence immediately after a benching. One little nugget - Tua already has three starts with less than 200 yards passing. He's not doing a lot compared to some other rookie's I could mention . . . 2) I don't like how non-competitive the first game was. You rarely get one team sweeping the other with two blowouts. Next week's game is probably going to be close. Tua sucks. Fitz sucks. We almost beat the Chargers this is a risky game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Prodigal Syndicate said: And when it matters most he will do what he always does. Fitz pads his stats against bad teams. Its what he has done his whole career. He is a one read chucker. Fitz is friggin garbage. The media is head over heels in love with the guy did you see that Fox Sports graphic comparing Fitz to other old QBs like Brees, Brady, Rodgers and Roethlisberger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Defense Wins Championships said: And Fitzpatrick has thrown for under 200 yards 72 different times.... He's nothing more than a career loser with a career losing record of 58-86-1 (.397%) along with 16 years of NFL experience with a whopping 0 playoff games played. He's absolutely pathetic... Fitz owns statistically the worst game ever played by a qb ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 hours ago, GreekJet said: Flores pulled Tua today, but said he will start next week. Either way you have to think he will be a short leash next week. I think the Dolphins losing this week is great for the Jets. Hopefully Flores has them ready to go. Ban yourself. Sorry, habit. Great post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Tua is a rookie who just had his first bad game 11/20 83yrds 1Td...he's played in 5 gams and started 4 with 3 wins. Miami's OC is being very carful with him by calling plays that limit what he can do. One amazing fact is...he has yet to through an int...I can't remember a rookie QB going 4 games without an int... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealeb319 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Sam with healthy weapons around him wins this game.Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Had Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 If the Jet's look at what Denver did on defense they have a good shot. Miami is playing 3 rookies on the OL and were exposed yesterday...they allowed Tua to be sacked 6 times yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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