The Crusher Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Just now, Warfish said: D…….E…….R…….S………DERS! DERS! DERS! Whooooo! lol. Yeah, more I think about it more I realize there is nothing. The Coms? Shocking all the effort and time and nobody thought about that. Should have went with Red Hogs. I think “ Hogs” been easily adapted. I would have went with DC Delegates and called them the “Delis” I like Delis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UntouchableCrew Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 12 hours ago, Warfish said: Red Hawks, Red Wolves, Warthogs, Red Hogs would all have been far superior. Shame. It almost seems like they deliberately went against what fans wanted with Red Wolves. Like Dan Snyder was declaring "if you're all gonna make me change the name I won't give you what you want." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 26 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yeah, more I think about it more I realize there is nothing. The Coms? Shocking all the effort and time and nobody thought about that. Should have went with Red Hogs. I think “ Hogs” been easily adapted. I would have went with DC Delegates and called them the “Delis” I like Delis Worst reveal ever lol. What a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Washington Lizard People Washington Insurrectionists Washington Non Binaries 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 45 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yeah, more I think about it more I realize there is nothing. The Coms? Shocking all the effort and time and nobody thought about that. Should have went with Red Hogs. I think “ Hogs” been easily adapted. I would have went with DC Delegates and called them the “Delis” I like Delis 18 minutes ago, Warfish said: Worst reveal ever lol. What a joke. Solid points. I suppose it’s not entirely inclusive if folks that are dependent on 4-letter words. Hope is all welL among the Apes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 33 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Yeah, more I think about it more I realize there is nothing. The Coms? Shocking all the effort and time and nobody thought about that. Should have went with Red Hogs. I think “ Hogs” been easily adapted. I would have went with DC Delegates and called them the “Delis” I like Delis The uniforms are brutal.should have kept the old template, which everyone seemed to love and put a different logo on the helmet. A lot of money paid for a massive downgrade. Amazes me how many bazillion dollar places can’t get the easy things right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawkeyeJet Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Between the Jets uniforms and Commanders name change and uniforms I’m convinced no one will ever like something new as it relates to sports names and uniforms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: Solid points. I suppose it’s not entirely inclusive if folks that are dependent on 4-letter words. Delis has 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Reveals: Kraken >>>> Guardians >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 40 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: It almost seems like they deliberately went against what fans wanted with Red Wolves. Like Dan Snyder was declaring "if you're all gonna make me change the name I won't give you what you want." It’s unreal. I mean for real unreal. What’s wrong with red wolves? I even dig red hogs. Got a nice ring to it and it honors the history. Even Wolverines!! Commanders? whaaaaa 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Delis has 5. Making it plural cheapens it. There can be only one Washington Deli. Ask the Carnegie folks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 The reveal video is nicely produced, at least: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 14 minutes ago, HawkeyeJet said: Between the Jets uniforms and Commanders name change and uniforms I’m convinced no one will ever like something new as it relates to sports names and uniforms. The Browns recently did it right. As did the Chargers. Marketing consultants getting paid obscene money to put the name of the team or the name of the city across the chest is not what football fans want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Integrity28 said: Making it plural cheapens it. There can be only one Washington Deli. Ask the Carnegie folks. Delicious. Well done, So? How the Jets do this season?. @Nolder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, The Crusher said: Delicious. Well done, So? How the Jets do this season?. @Nolder 4 letters. 4 wins. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Hard to believe that this is the best they came up with. Absolutely should've stuck with WFT over this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Not sure about that logo on the front of the helmet on the black uni. Actually that uni looks like it belongs to the Bears: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Hard to believe that this is the best they came up with. Absolutely should've stuck with WFT over this.... or the better suited ... WTF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackhuntr Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 So they went from Redskins to the people that killed them...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: 4 letters. 4 wins. So good. Haha, well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The Browns recently did it right. As did the Chargers. Marketing consultants getting paid obscene money to put the name of the team or the name of the city across the chest is not what football fans want. I love it when people who have never conducted any customer research presume you know what customers want. The efficacy of this sort of work - marketing, branding, creative - is all contingent upon the stakeholders. The creatives make informed recommendations. The clients make decisions. Commanders to me is likely approval by committee. This means the best ideas were likely filtered out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinc855 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 "I command you" Lots of good trash talk can come from this name.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 To be honest i like the muscle behind a military connotation like commander, general, ranger or admiral.. always wished since being a kid that the Jets deployed something closer to military aircraft than the bubble jet. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I love it when people who have never conducted any customer research presume you know what customers want. The efficacy of this sort of work - marketing, branding, creative - is all contingent upon the stakeholders. The creatives make informed recommendations. The clients make decisions. Commanders to me is likely approval by committee. This means the best ideas were likely filtered out.This absolutely went through extreme focus group testing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I love it when people who have never conducted any customer research presume you know what customers want. The efficacy of this sort of work - marketing, branding, creative - is all contingent upon the stakeholders. The creatives make informed recommendations. The clients make decisions. Commanders to me is likely approval by committee. This means the best ideas were likely filtered out. I’m not talking about the name. The uniforms stink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dunnie said: 6 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I love it when people who have never conducted any customer research presume you know what customers want. The efficacy of this sort of work - marketing, branding, creative - is all contingent upon the stakeholders. The creatives make informed recommendations. The clients make decisions. Commanders to me is likely approval by committee. This means the best ideas were likely filtered out. This absolutely went through extreme focus group testing. Yet they still completely F'd it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: I’m not talking about the name. The uniforms stink. I know. Do a better job reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dunnie said: To be honest i like the muscle behind a military connotation like commander, general, ranger or admiral.. always wished since being a kid that the Jets deployed something closer to military airceaft than the bubble jet. I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Yes, I’m sure it did. Ficus groups are weird. I’ve seen them mostly get used wrong as a form of cultivating bias, providing vanity research, or being focused on the wrong learnings. Dont assume because a lot of $$$ was paid that the process was facilitated without flaw. Simply put. I’m sure there were better ideas, this isn’t the worst, white dudes with opinions about this on the internet are funny.Its completely flawed way of justifying a bad decision that involves spending $$$$$$My experience is from advertising.... but it can really work well too. Funds typically get cut if ideas dont test well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 The White one is not bad. The red would be OK if the commanders across the chest wasn't there. The black...just, no. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I know. Do a better job reading. No one should have to read that word salad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 7 minutes ago, Dunnie said: 11 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: I love it when people who have never conducted any customer research presume you know what customers want. The efficacy of this sort of work - marketing, branding, creative - is all contingent upon the stakeholders. The creatives make informed recommendations. The clients make decisions. Commanders to me is likely approval by committee. This means the best ideas were likely filtered out. This absolutely went through extreme focus group testing. It has the feel of something designed by committee - where people reject other people's preferences, and then have their preferences rejected in return, until you end up with something that no-one actually likes but which is so bland that no-one actually objects to it. I have been in many, many meetings like that. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Dunnie said: Its completely flawed way of justifying a bad decision that involves spending $$$$$$ My experience is from advertising. I’m not justifying. I’m simply sharing with some folks how the process is typically way more complex than they seem to assume. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Matt39 said: No one should have to read that word salad. Then proceed with drooling down your chin and farting out if your mouth. ?♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, mrcoops said: It has the feel of something designed by committee - where people reject other people's preferences, and then have their preferences rejected in return, until you end up with something that no-one actually likes but which is so bland that no-one actually objects to it. I have been in many, many meetings like that. This all day. Given how toxic the WFT culture has been, I’d imagine it as being the worst case scenario for infighting over collaboration. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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