Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 I think people forget how young this kid is. He’s coming into his own. He will learn to play the position as he grows. 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 This team is so young even the “veterans” are young. Quinnen is only 24 and Reed is 25. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packers12 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The Bills are so done if Allen is out. They are toast. That means the Jets will probably win the division or Miami. 2 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post derp Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 Trevor Lawrence is younger than Zach Wilson. Looks like the list is just sorted by integer age and some other factor is determining how the 23 year olds are lined up. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, derp said: Trevor Lawrence is younger than Zach Wilson. Looks like the list is just sorted by integer age and some other factor is determining how the 23 year olds are lined up. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Out of the 8 that are 22 / 23, Zach is still doing much better in terms of wins. Fields is improving lately, Lawrence is still a question. Rest haven't played enough to judge. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SomebodytoAnybody47 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 I for one, need to see more of Brock Purdy. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, slimjasi said: This cause the fractions matter here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post y2k8 Posted November 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2022 For additional context, Sam Darnold was 23 years old when JD traded him. 5 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, derp said: Trevor Lawrence is younger than Zach Wilson. Looks like the list is just sorted by integer age and some other factor is determining how the 23 year olds are lined up. You’re right, Trevor was born in October and Zach August so yes he’s younger. Wonder why that was screwed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 The problem with this argument is when you start considering which young QBs started clueless and learned as they went. I guess it is the Alex Smith argument. He seemed to figure things out, but that was only after a change in staff, a year off and since even after his good years he was benched for Kaepernick, and traded away, he does not seem to be the poster boy for waiting for a QB to mature. Did Jameis ever mature into this top flight NFL QB? He was younger than Wilson. I guess you can argue more parallels with Smith in that they weren't from really big schools, but I don't see this as a reason to wait on the kid. He is either good or he isn't, but we can't be sure. At that point, like Becton, you have to prepare as if he isn't and hope that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 minute ago, #27TheDominator said: The problem with this argument is when you start considering which young QBs started clueless and learned as they went. I guess it is the Alex Smith argument. He seemed to figure things out, but that was only after a change in staff, a year off and since even after his good years he was benched for Kaepernick, and traded away, he does not seem to be the poster boy for waiting for a QB to mature. Did Jameis ever mature into this top flight NFL QB? He was younger than Wilson. I guess you can argue more parallels with Smith in that they weren't from really big schools, but I don't see this as a reason to wait on the kid. He is either good or he isn't, but we can't be sure. At that point, like Becton, you have to prepare as if he isn't and hope that he is. Good news is Zach seems pretty steady in his improvements. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Is this supposed to mean something? All of the QBs from 21 are pretty much the same age? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, GangGreened said: Is this supposed to mean something? All of the QBs from 21 are pretty much the same age? And they all suck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wit Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Fields is starting to give me Lamar Jackson vibes, that would be a huge miss if true. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Fields is starting to give me Lamar Jackson vibes, that would be a huge miss if true. Depends on what you think of Lamar I guess... I want no part of that.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullblast Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 He's our RJ Barrett, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: I think people forget how young this kid is. He’s coming into his own. He will learn to play the position as he grows. Just watched Georgia - Tennessee this weekend. Both starting QBs, Hendon Hooker (24) and Stetson Bennett (25) are older than Zach. Go Dawgs!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: You’re right, Trevor was born in October and Zach August so yes he’s younger. Wonder why that was screwed up The determining factor is Games Played. That's how they are ranked... by age and then games played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Lith said: Just watched Georgia - Tennessee this weekend. Both starting QBs, Hendon Hooker (24) and Stetson Bennett (25) are older than Zach. Go Dawgs!!! I didn’t realize Bennett was 25. That’s ridiculous… a 25 year old should not be playing college football 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jNYC1 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 I did post in the PVO thread that Zach's youth was a positive... of course not sure how big of a positive it actually is... I do know breakout age is a factor in evaluating draft prospects... but once in the league I personally don't think age should modify expectations in a significant way. I tend to believe that actual NFL production, trends in NFL production, and rate of improvement are more important than "hope" that youth means future production and improvements are likely. I did always find it funny that age was one the biggest positive for Sam Darnold mentioned by "truthers"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islesmb Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I didn’t realize Bennett was 25. That’s ridiculous… a 25 year old should not be playing college football When I first turned that game on, they showed Bennett with his helmet on and I thought to myself that he looked older than me and I'm 49. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonCorleone Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Rhg1084 said: I think people forget how young this kid is. He’s coming into his own. He will learn to play the position as he grows. Thank you for bringing clarity. I am guilty of having piled on this kid after the Pats Game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lith Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I didn’t realize Bennett was 25. That’s ridiculous… a 25 year old should not be playing college football Yup. Redshirt in 2017, Transferred to JuCo in 2018, back to Georgia with 3 years of eligibility left in 19, then NCAA granted an extra year of eligibility due to Covid, so he had the opportunity to play this season. Just turned 25 last month. Not likely to see it again anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: And they all suck! We’ll see how he evolves as a passer but Fields might be breaking out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 There’s more hope than there was a week ago with Wilson But still lingering durability questions And it’s just painful because Fields’ talent was so obvious and he got shafted by the weird predraft “process” I mean he’s like Lamar Jackson except a better, more proven collegiate passer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: There’s more hope than there was a week ago with Wilson But still lingering durability questions And it’s just painful because Fields’ talent was so obvious and he got shafted by the weird predraft “process” I mean he’s like Lamar Jackson except a better, more proven collegiate passer Fields has 22 turnovers since he came in the league (23 total fumbles and 16 INTs) and Zach has 16. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, Rhg1084 said: Fields has 40 turnovers since he came in the league. Zach has 16. I think Fields will be a player and wanted to draft him over Wilson, but he's getting crowned a bit prematurely, IMO. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Fields has 40 turnovers since he came in the league. Zach has 16. Check again Fields has 22 16 INT and 6 lost fumbles Nice try though Fields’ INT rate is 3.5% trying to force the ball to scrub WRs who can’t get separation Wilson’s is 2.9% Not a massive differential bro Wilson’s never had more than 2 TD passes a game Wilson will never rush for 170+ yards in game. Not happening. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 Just now, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Check again Fields has 22 16 INT and 6 lost fumbles Nice try though Fields’ INT is 3.5% trying to force the ball to scrub WRs Wilson’s is 2.9% Not a massive difference bro Wake me up when Wilson throws 3 or more TDs in a game Wilson’s never had more than 2 TD passes a game Wilson will never rush for 170+ yards in game. Not happening. I changed my original post. 23 total fumbles, 16 INTs. Yet Jets fans praise him and kill Zach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, Lith said: Just watched Georgia - Tennessee this weekend. Both starting QBs, Hendon Hooker (24) and Stetson Bennett (25) are older than Zach. Go Dawgs!!! Zach has that dawg in him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Wake me up when Wilson throws 3 or more TDs in a game. I was with you until this. This is a dumb argument. "Wake me up when Fields throws for 300 yards" - he's never thrown for 300 yards. Zach hadn't until a week ago - Do you see why this is dumb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: I changed my original post. 23 total fumbles, 16 INTs. Yet Jets fans praise him and kill Zach Wilson literally just fumbled on Sunday, a play which could have easily cost them the game I was in Denver when he had that ridiculous fumble where he ran ass backwards first and looked a drunk guy falling down but got bailed out when the refs ruled him down Fields just played a clean game on Sunday with 4 TDs and 0 TOs Fields needs to work on his ball security in the pocket and as a runner. Those things can be fixed with technique and habit. Wilson literally just gave the ball to NE 3 times less than 10 days ago. You can’t teach Fields’ all-world ability as a rusher. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted November 8, 2022 Author Share Posted November 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Wilson literally just fumbled on Sunday, a play which could have easily cost them the game I was in Denver when he had that ridiculous fumble where he ran ass backwards first and looked a drunk guy falling down but got bailed out when the refs ruled him down Fields just played a clean game on Sunday with 4 TDs and 0 TOs Fields needs to work on his ball security in the pocket and as a runner. Those things can be fixed with technique and habit. Wilson literally just gave the ball to NE 3 times less than 10 days ago. You can’t teach Fields’ all-world ability as a rusher. and you can’t teach Zach’s all world ability as a passer. That’s why he was drafted before Fields was 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 You hope his age is a factor combined with his extreme rawness coming out of BYU. I didn't appreciate just how raw he was as a rookie. He's got the physical ability and the right mental makeup, so you just hope he corrects the correctable - decision making, taking care of the football, not being reckless, and cleaning up his mechanics. Pocket presence is a concern but looked better last week. I hate to say this but I'm really disappointed he missed out on Greg Knapp's tutelage. Tragic loss of life of course, but really was exactly what Zach needed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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