JustInFudge Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 3 hours ago, T0mShane said: I don’t mean “the offense” specifically, but the team itself. Harbaugh brought in Roman because of the success he had with Kaepernick. It’s a power running, condensed offense that features backs and TEs, and allows the mobile QB to get outside the box and make plays. It takes guts and commitment to run that offense in today’s game where everyone wants to line up in shotgun and try to luck into a handful of explosive plays down the field that win you the game. That said, I think Lamar is talented enough to play in other, more wide-open offenses, but any acquiring team would be taking a chance that he could do that at a high level. We just watched what happened in Denver with Russell Wilson moving away from an offense that catered to his skillset and into a more traditional west-coast set and it was a disaster. And with the Jets being the Jets, they went and hired the coach who masterminded that disaster. You really want them to run that same experiment with Lamar? Also, here’s a good article defending Lamar and killing Roman, but it contains a lot of good bits about the things they did to try and protect Lamar. https://www.theringer.com/platform/amp/nfl/2021/12/16/22838532/ravens-offense-issues-greg-roman-lamar-jackson But this is where I disagree, the team, didnt do anything other than hire Roman to support Jackson. I guess you could say they attempted to build around him via the draft but they've failed miserably. That offense is pure and utter dog sh*t. So while I understand this article questioning Roman's ability to beat certain coverages, etc. I would ask, who's getting open on that team? What RB can do anything other than push a pile? It's one of the least talented rosters in the NFL on the offensive side yet, Lamar was having an MVP caliber season. Again, 26 pts w/ Lamar, 16 pts w/out Lamar and they never scored over 17 pts when he was out. That is such a significant drop of it's insane. They went from a top 5 offense to the battling the Broncos for the worst offense (yay Hackett!) in the league. So to your point, do I trust Hackett to figure it out? No, not specifically but he's replaceable and wouldnt factor into my decision to get Lamar if the time is now to do it. I definitely think he can figure out another offense though. He was successful in Petrino's offense in college which is more spread oriented, went 6-1 after Flacco went 3-5 w/ Mornhinweg and then had an MVP season w/ Roman throwing to Hollywood Brown and Will Snead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: Ravens. Ravens say no. lmao. Why would anyone want Zach Wilson? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganggreen305 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: From your lips to God's ears...........or Joe D's ears. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oatmeal Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 18 minutes ago, heymangold said: “lAmAr iZ a RuNnInG bAcK” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, heymangold said: Yet Jackson is viewed as the pure "running QB". Funny how that works. And he doesn't have a Stefon Diggs, either. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyT Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Yet Jackson is viewed as the pure "running QB". Funny how that works. Jetsfan80, let’s change this narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeNamathsFurCoat said: This is not remotely realistic. Would be one of the best trades of all times. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 20 hours ago, LockeJET said: Lots of talk of the Bears trading fields, and then taking Bryce Young. You make this type of trade and you’re getting a young quarterback who’s already won an MVP. Baltimore reset their QB clock and then gets number one overall. Baltimore could then trade back and get a boatload of pics to build around Fields. Seems like a good trade for both teams. Lots of talk via the media. Not the Bears. GM already said Fields is their QB. Yes, like all GMs he will pick up the phone should a team call about Fields. Poles: Bears must be 'blown away' to draft QB at No. 1 https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-gm-ryan-poles-must-be-blown-away-draft-qb-no-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, TommyT said: Jetsfan80, let’s change this narrative. I said what I said. So unless people want to start calling him Running Back Josh Allen along with me maybe folks should chill with the "Jackson can only run" narrative. Dude threw for 36 TDs in his MVP year after all. And he doesn't have a Stefon Diggs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet Jackson is viewed as the pure "running QB". Funny how that works. And he doesn't have a Stefon Diggs, either. How does this prove he is or isn’t? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jet Nut said: How does this prove he is or isn’t? You serious? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: You serious? Dead serious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 27 minutes ago, heymangold said: Without total passing yards as context this doesn't really work. Which is 18,000 for 12,000 ish.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, FidelioJet said: Without total yards as context this doesn't really work. Which is 18,000 for 12,000 Or how many passes from inside the pocket for each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Let’s be real. Hackett now has to face in AFCE: Belichick 2x Fangio 2x McDermott / Frazier 2x Fangio is getting 4.5M per to run Miami’s D. Now is the time to go all in and get a legit stud QB in there. You’re not winning a Super Bowl or even the division with Tannehill or Jimmy G. In 3 years they’re gonna have to pay Sauce and Garrett and JJ. The window is NOW. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, FidelioJet said: Without total passing yards as context this doesn't really work. Which is 18,000 for 12,000 ish.. Definitely not. Think about what you are saying here. Total passing yards are meaningless - yards per attempt is the stat that matters, because it controls for how often each QB throws the ball. The big issue with the stat quoted in that graphic is "from the pocket" - Allen makes some big time throws down the field after escaping the pocket . . . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeNamathsFurCoat Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Lamar Jackson owns Bull Belichick This alone makes him worth a king’s ransom to anybody who cares about the NYJ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Ravens. Ravens say no. lmao. Why would anyone want Zach Wilson? Way to take the wind out of my sails, ke-mo sah-bee. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Yet Jackson is viewed as the pure "running QB". Funny how that works. And he doesn't have a Stefon Diggs, either. The dumb dumbs on here "Mike White is just as good, and he is more accurate and can do more and is cheaper. I eat plastic". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 hour ago, FidelioJet said: Without total passing yards as context this doesn't really work. Which is 18,000 for 12,000 ish.. Yards per Attempt doesn’t account for that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, pointman said: Way to take the wind out of my sails, ke-mo sah-bee. It’s what I do. Sorry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Lamar is the greatest QB we could get, would have ever had, and will ever have. Sadly, its a pipe dream that won't happen. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: It’s what I do. Sorry. You could almost say, it was by nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, pointman said: Lamar is the greatest QB we could get, would have ever had, and will ever have. Sadly, its a pipe dream that won't happen. Probably not but I’ll dream it until the moment it doesn’t happen all the same. And I’ll make fun of the people who were wrong about Jackson for their wrongness. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, pointman said: You could almost say, it was by nature. Now you’re getting it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 1 minute ago, Jetsfan80 said: Probably not but I’ll dream it until the moment it doesn’t happen all the same. And I’ll make fun of the people who were wrong about Jackson for their wrongness. I can't believe how so many are talking about these other guys and talking about how Lamar is due to breakdown and how he is a running QB only. Wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointman Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 Just now, Jetsfan80 said: Now you’re getting it!!! LOL I knew you would say that. Why? You're predictable because how you are from being nurtured on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Now you’re getting it!!! 5 minutes ago, pointman said: LOL I knew you would say that. Why? You're predictable because how you are from being nurtured on this forum. No sir. I’m Naughty by Nature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted February 24, 2023 Share Posted February 24, 2023 I can't believe how so many are talking about these other guys and talking about how Lamar is due to breakdown and how he is a running QB only. Wow.He not a running only QB... He just inconsistent as a passer and injured a lot recently. Also he healthy scratched himself last year. You have to wonder if his run first attitude will take the ball out of other playmakers hands.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 The whole Lamar Jackson infatuation is like looking at 65 year old crack whore and only seeing the hot 18 year old chearleader she was when Reagan was President. Lamar is NOT and will never again ever be the MVP player he was. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 3 hours ago, heymangold said: Whoa, this is going to hurt some folks brains, for sure. And look who Allen throws too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 24 minutes ago, johnnysd said: The whole Lamar Jackson infatuation is like looking at 65 year old crack whore and only seeing the hot 18 year old chearleader she was when Reagan was President. Lamar is NOT and will never again ever be the MVP player he was. He had the 2nd best odds to win MVP this season’s before the injury. Lol and he’s younger then Burrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titan24 Posted February 25, 2023 Share Posted February 25, 2023 This is absolutely pointless Lamar jackson will not be on this team ridiculous and stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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