CBPOY: Hamlin or Flacco?

[Kleckineau]

If Flacco wins a ring with the Browns he may be HOF material but tough to beat Hamlin's Lazarus sample.

[Sonny Werblin]

9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

He’s made a couple tackles in relief, which to me is enough to get the vote.  

Exactly! Because the distance he travelled - from dead to making a few tackles - is farther than the distance travelled by Flacco from his media room to the Browns huddle.

The real competition for this award is next season - Borrow vs. Cousins vs. Chubb vs. Watson vs. Dobbins vs Rodgers vs. Danny Dimes vs. Richardson (Hamlin seems to prove you can come back from never having accomplished anything) 

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Hamlin didn't do jack sh-t .

[Xtina]

13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Don’t you have to actually play to be comeback player of the year? 

[Bleedin Green]

You kind of have to wonder how Hamlin feels about this. I'd imagine it has to be frustrating, considering it seems his career has essentially turned into a PR move. The Bills have pretty much refused to play him other than when forced by injuries, and now they're talking about awards just for being there, which we know would be simultaneously celebrated by some but panned and mocked by others.

I honestly have no idea how good he really is on the field, but seems like he may never be able to get away from this. Of course, if it's what's actually keeping him in the league, then probably can't complain too much.

[Scotty Wooty Doo Doo]

I'd say dying on the field and coming back even just for a play is worthy of the award . 

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Purdy coming off Tommy John surgery and Breece Hall with 1,400 yards and 8 TDs are both more deserving than Hamlin or Flacco IMO

[jeremy2020]

It's not the "come back to life" player of the year.. although given that we saw the animate corpse of Joe Flacco here.. he'd still qualify.

[extmenace]

Breece averaging 4.4 ypc behind that O line when the rest of the RBs are averaging around 3.25 ypc says it all. Breece won’t win it but considering how bad the offense was around him, he should be considered. I think he’d of had a better case if he could have eclipsed the 1k rushing mark. Put a leauge average o line and passing game behind him and he’s an elite back. Hopefully next year, the jets can do enough to show the league know how good he is.

[Jetsfan80]

30 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

It's not the "come back to life" player of the year.. although given that we saw the animate corpse of Joe Flacco here.. he'd still qualify.

It's a pretty subjective award, so I don't think the bold matters.  And kind of a silly award anyways.  Chad Pennington winning it TWICE speaks to that.  @Bleedin Green

[pajet]

47 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

Purdy coming off Tommy John surgery and Breece Hall with 1,400 yards and 8 TDs are both more deserving than Hamlin or Flacco IMO

Purdy another good example....forgot he was even injured

 

[UntouchableCrew]

I mean, the Hamlin thing is a nice story but the guy barely plays. I don't think he's a real candidate.

Flacco makes sense, I guess. Not a super strong field. Breece would have been a really good candidate if Rodgers stayed healthy.

[Jetsfan80]

16 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I mean, the Hamlin thing is a nice story but the guy barely plays. I don't think he's a real candidate.

Then Vegas is way off because he's pretty comfortably the favorite right now, or at least comfortably top 2, based on multiple major sportsbooks:

1. Hamlin (-125 / -150 / -165)
2. Flacco  (+100 / + 125)
3. Josh Dobbs (+400)
4. Lamar Jackson (+1000 / +1400)
5. Baker Mayfield (+1400 / +3500)

[nj meadowlands]

Kinda surprised Tuscany hasn't gotten this bad boy locked yet

[frankiepapa]

Give me Lamar Jackson after back to back injury seasons leading MVP voting or Breece has almost 1400 all purpose yards and leads all RBs in receiving yards coming off a major knee injury.

Just seeing these words...1400 scrimmage yards on this team...1,000 receiving yards for gw... Amazing these 2...

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[GreenFish]

14 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

KEEP VOTING GUYS

Broke out laughing when I read this.

Then I slowly got upset. Not at you but at the situation we’ve all had to deal with. 

Like Jets fans are so rabid. Pepsi had to factor in Jets fans when listing nominees for Rookie of the Week. Jets fans will straight get one of their rookies the belt even if the player only caught a couple passes. No other fanbase is this crazy.

Yet this is the fanbase that is being fed trash every week. So upsetting.

[jbt]

[Green Ghost]

2 hours ago, Trotter said:

No - I did not want to mush you

Went with some late NBA and New Mexico in college BB - nothing hit.

Unfortunately it went the way I thought it would. 😢

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57 minutes ago, pajet said:

Purdy another good example....forgot he was even injured

 

Heck, even Tua should be above Flacco and Hamlin

[playtowinthegame]

If Joe Flacco does win, that'll be two years in a row an ex-Jets starting quarterback has won CPOY.  Let's go ex-Jets starting quarterbacks! 

[Bleedin Green]

1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said:

It's a pretty subjective award, so I don't think the bold matters.  And kind of a silly award anyways.  Chad Pennington winning it TWICE speaks to that.  @Bleedin Green

CPOY = Chad Pennington of the Year

[Warfish]

Flacco seems the likely obvious on-field choice, especially if he wins Sunday and has a good playoff showing, simply because Hamlin hasn't really "come back" to playing.  What is it, someone posted earlier, like 17 snaps for Hamlin this year?  He's not actually back with that low a snapcount.  Maybe next year.

The Breece talk is just silly tho, to be "Come Back" you have to have at some point been very good-to-great for a while and then lost it. 

Breece had less than half a trending-to-very-good year before this season.  He's not a three-time 1,500 total yard back who then got hurt. 

i.e. He's not "coming back", he's actually just arriving for the first time.  Sorry, but he has no shot at the award, especially playing for the no-account Jets.

[Lurker89]

Hamlin 5 games 2 tackles has done absolutely nothing other than not be dead......

Breece has been awesome all year should be him....

If the only options are Flacco or Hamlin ill take Flacco.

[Green Ghost]

12 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

Hamlin 5 games 2 tackles has done absolutely nothing other than not be dead......

Breece has been awesome all year should be him....

If the only options are Flacco or Hamlin ill take Flacco.

Breece has not been awesome all year. He’s had a few good games, and some not very good.

 

[Warfish]

Has anyone ever won the "Comeback" award in only their 2nd season, after missing (to injury) most of their rookie season?

If we're going down this route, is a rookie who was hurt in college someone who should win the "Comeback" award too?

Again, I think generally the award goes to guys with resumes in the NFL already, who THEN suffer a setback (injury or sucking), and then "come back" to prominence in some way again.  Breece just doesn't seem to meet that description.

But again, I think that first question above is key.  If no one else has ever won the award in that circumstance, it would seem that's not what they mean by "Comeback", and Breece certainly isn't going to be the first.

[UntouchableCrew]

2 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said:

Then Vegas is way off because he's pretty comfortably the favorite right now, or at least comfortably top 2, based on multiple major sportsbooks:

1. Hamlin (-125 / -150 / -165)
2. Flacco  (+100 / + 125)
3. Josh Dobbs (+400)
4. Lamar Jackson (+1000 / +1400)
5. Baker Mayfield (+1400 / +3500)

I mean, I'm not telling you who will win. It's kind of a "whatever" award and I'm sure the NFL wants to strut him up there as a "feel good" story to contrast with the horrifying image of him almost dying on the field in a crucial national TV game from last year.

Just saying that a fringe player (who honestly might not be on a roster if not for the incident last year) being the "comeback player".... I dunno. Makes no sense for me and isn't really consistent with the idea behind the award in the past.

[Thai Jet]

17 hours ago, Beerfish said:

Not flacco he has only played a few games.

It will be Hamlin though he is just a backup right now correct?

1/3 the time Hamlin is on the inactive list and not even available to play. He's actually only been in 5 games with stats in only 2. That being said he'll win the awatd. 

[Lurker89]

2 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

Breece has not been awesome all year. He’s had a few good games, and some not very good.

 

He has 1395 all purpose yards going into week 18 the year after he tore his acl. 

But sure whatever you say.

[Jetsfan80]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I mean, I'm not telling you who will win. It's kind of a "whatever" award and I'm sure the NFL wants to strut him up there as a "feel good" story to contrast with the horrifying image of him almost dying on the field in a crucial national TV game from last year.

Just saying that a fringe player (who honestly might not be on a roster if not for the incident last year) being the "comeback player".... I dunno. Makes no sense for me and isn't really consistent with the idea behind the award in the past.

It's kind of an unprecedented situation though, no?  

[Integrity28]

12 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

It's kind of an unprecedented situation though, no?  

Americans gave up on precedent a long time ago.

[#27TheDominator]

1 hour ago, UntouchableCrew said:

I mean, I'm not telling you who will win. It's kind of a "whatever" award and I'm sure the NFL wants to strut him up there as a "feel good" story to contrast with the horrifying image of him almost dying on the field in a crucial national TV game from last year.

Just saying that a fringe player (who honestly might not be on a roster if not for the incident last year) being the "comeback player".... I dunno. Makes no sense for me and isn't really consistent with the idea behind the award in the past.

The flipside is that the NFL probably just wants people to forget the guy dying on the field and giving him an award will just bring that back to the forefront of everybody's mind and make them rerun those clips.  Pretty sure he will win and IMO he probably should. 

[Green Ghost]

57 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

He has 1395 all purpose yards going into week 18 the year after he tore his acl. 

But sure whatever you say.

Averaging 80 total yards per game is good, not “awesome”.

The truth is there are at least 10-12 other RBs in the league just as good or better than Hall.
People here were raving about the game Hall had against Cleveland, meanwhile Jerome Ford (another 2nd year RB who was taken in the 5th round to back up Chubb) performed the same or better that night and I wouldn’t consider him a top 15 back.

[Jetsfan80]

57 minutes ago, #27TheDominator said:

The flipside is that the NFL probably just wants people to forget the guy dying on the field and giving him an award will just bring that back to the forefront of everybody's mind and make them rerun those clips.  Pretty sure he will win and IMO he probably should. 

They'll rerun the clips in outrage if he does NOT win the award too, though.  Kind of a no-win situation for everyone involved.

[Lurker89]

23 hours ago, Green Ghost said:

Averaging 80 total yards per game is good, not “awesome”.

The truth is there are at least 10-12 other RBs in the league just as good or better than Hall.
People here were raving about the game Hall had against Cleveland, meanwhile Jerome Ford (another 2nd year RB who was taken in the 5th round to back up Chubb) performed the same or better that night and I wouldn’t consider him a top 15 back.

Yeah actually averaging 80 yards a game is awesome. You are cherry picking and being ridiculous. 

He is top 5 on the season in all purpose yards. 

[Jetkwondo]

On 1/3/2024 at 2:36 PM, #27TheDominator said:

The flipside is that the NFL probably just wants people to forget the guy dying on the field and giving him an award will just bring that back to the forefront of everybody's mind and make them rerun those clips.  Pretty sure he will win and IMO he probably should. 

 Hamlin has no business being on this list. He has been featured in many interviews and has profited from doing TV ad commercials which is an unfortunate way of being rewarded as I think it's fitting that he benefits in some way from what he went through on live national TV,  just not this award. 

Yes it's true that he tragically died from some still unexplained reason that unfortunately appears to possibly be limiting his playing time this year so based on that alone should exclude him, never mind his almost non existent  stats.

His Michael Strahan Super Bowl full interview is a must watch in what he doesn't say...  I pray he eventually recovers fully from whatever caused his heart to stop.

So with all that said, IMO him being only a purely sentimental pick will only weaken the original purpose of the NFL Comeback Player Award that many work extremely hard to be considered for.