hmhertz Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Lawsuit Against NFL[edit] In February of 2023, Smith and nine other former players filed a lawsuit against the NFL disability board in United States Federal Court, stating they had been unfairly denied disability claims. Smith stated that he had suffered thirteen documented traumatic brain injuries and had been denied disability compensation for his “head, neck, and lumbar spine impairments” and “marked decreased shoulder range of motion, rotator cuff weakness, and moderate to severe shoulder arthritis".[18] he plaintiffs are Willis McGahee, Eric Smith,Mike McKenzie, Jason Alford, Daniel Loper, Jamize Olawale, Alex Parsons, Charles Sims, Joey Thomas, and Lance Zeno. Smith explained his lingering brain trauma in a videoconference last year. “There were times I would black out and wake up . . . and I’m bleeding, there are holes in the wall,” Smith said at the time. “My wife and kids are crying. I went down a dark path.” The case will now move down a path toward trial. It still has a long way to go to get there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post New York Mick Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 At this point you’d think the NFL would have taken care of these things. It’s been a dark cloud for them for years. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jet2020 Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 Hope they win. NFL owes them all, many many folds. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochester Jets Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Makes me wonder how much longer the NFL as we know it will be around. My gut feeling is that down the road, it’ll evolve into something like flag football in order to survive. I think the injury and trauma research is only going to be more damning as time goes on which will make the hitting and contact look less and less appealing to fans and players alike. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Integrity28 Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 6 hours ago, New York Mick said: At this point you’d think the NFL would have taken care of these things. It’s been a dark cloud for them for years. They print money, yet want all of it for themselves. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Hope he wins. But I bet he trips and falls multiple times while making court appearances. @Bleedin Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets0712 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Feel bad for what he’s going through. But maybe. He shouldn’t have led with his head so much. Shoulda just ( form tackled) wait that woulda been a 15 yarder also. Never mindSent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 F Goodell 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 4 hours ago, Rochester Jets said: Makes me wonder how much longer the NFL as we know it will be around. My gut feeling is that down the road, it’ll evolve into something like flag football in order to survive. I think the injury and trauma research is only going to be more damning as time goes on which will make the hitting and contact look less and less appealing to fans and players alike. Survive? It’ll be around even if they converted to flag football. They make too much money to just be surviving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Rich Thornburgh Posted March 23 Popular Post Share Posted March 23 I should sue Eric Smith for him forcing me to watch every JAG TE score a touchdown for several years 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said: I should sue Eric Smith for him forcing me to watch every JAG TE score a touchdown for several years Didn't he break Anquan Boldens face that one time? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Didn't he break Anquan Boldens face that one time? Yeah he was a dirty player on top of being a scrub who got waaayyyy too much playing time in his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 minute ago, Rich Thornburgh said: Yeah he was a dirty player on top of being a scrub who got waaayyyy too much playing time in his career I kinda knew Boldins grandmother and other family members of his, Granma was a fragile Diabetic, went to their house a lot when I was working EMS in Pahokee, FL. Nice people. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 31 minutes ago, Jet2020 said: Survive? It’ll be around even if they converted to flag football. They make too much money to just be surviving. I mean, sure, it would still be around in some form, but they’d make a fraction of the revenue they do now. The violence of the game is part of what makes it the country’s most popular sport. Fundamentally changing the game to THAT degree would slowly kill off the viewership, and the league knows it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 That whiff on Tebow. Yikes. That hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 42 minutes ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Didn't he break Anquan Boldens face that one time? Lead with his helmet and absolutely laid him out. It was pretty scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I remember in the 2010 playoff win against the Pats, he hit a receiver so hard that their helmet decal shattered. For a second it looked like the guy's helmet broke apart. Smith wasn't a great player, but he could hit like a truck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 24 minutes ago, sourceworx said: I remember in the 2010 playoff win against the Pats, he hit a receiver so hard that their helmet decal shattered. For a second it looked like the guy's helmet broke apart. Smith wasn't a great player, but he could hit like a truck. Wes Welker. That was a hell of a hit, and probably the most memorable one of Smith's career...unless you count the one where he nearly killed Boldin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: I mean, sure, it would still be around in some form, but they’d make a fraction of the revenue they do now. The violence of the game is part of what makes it the country’s most popular sport. Fundamentally changing the game to THAT degree would slowly kill off the viewership, and the league knows it. I respectfully disagree. The gradual improvements aimed at enhancing the players' overall well-being are unlikely to diminish viewership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYJCAP2 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Jet_Engine1 said: Didn't he break Anquan Boldens face that one time? :27 seconds left in a blowout. Times have changed. He’d probably be suspended for a season with this hit now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Jet2020 said: I respectfully disagree. The gradual improvements aimed at enhancing the players' overall well-being are unlikely to diminish viewership. If it ends up full-fledged flag football? Not a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 53 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: If it ends up full-fledged flag football? Not a chance. Basketball has a substantial following without the presence of any violence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet2020 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 We both know that the NFL is unlikely to transition to flag football, even gradually, as it represents a completely different concept. At least it is not expected to change to that within our lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 5 hours ago, dcJet said: That whiff on Tebow. Yikes. That hurt. There wasn’t a TE or FB who couldn’t make Eric Smith miss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Jet2020 said: Basketball has a substantial following without the presence of any violence. It’s never really approached football levels of popularity and basketball has always been a non-contact sport. Football going from full contact to basically none would be a completely different concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, Jet2020 said: We both know that the NFL is unlikely to transition to flag football, even gradually, as it represents a completely different concept. At least it is not expected to change to that within our lifetime. I mean of course i agree with that but you’re going to end up never coming up with a good solution - the sport will always be inherently dangerous (and the more we learn about the brain and the bigger and faster guys get - the worse it gets) and that will continue the slow restriction of the pipeline of players available from the youth/HS level. You can only do so much to protect the athletes if you don’t go the flag route (which no one really wants) so, increasingly, the only groups producing football talent will be the ones who have few or no other choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 8 hours ago, mrcoops said: Wes Welker. That was a hell of a hit, and probably the most memorable one of Smith's career...unless you count the one where he nearly killed Boldin. Again, Smith wasn't that good of a player, but that game against the Pats was probably the best of his career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleedin Green Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 13 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Hope he wins. But I bet he trips and falls multiple times while making court appearances. @Bleedin Green This is a very conflicting scenario, because it's kind of amazingly ****ed up how the league treats some of their former players and medical conditions. However... I'm pretty sure Smith was completely blacking out while in the middle of a defending a play well before even his first injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Tbh .. I hope he wins .. the league should take of these guys ... Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 We both know that the NFL is unlikely to transition to flag football, even gradually, as it represents a completely different concept. At least it is not expected to change to that within our lifetime.Within 15 years is my guess. Hope im wrong.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maynard13 Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 8 hours ago, NYJCAP2 said: :27 seconds left in a blowout. Times have changed. He’d probably be suspended for a season with this hit now. If you look at the play in slow motion, Smith wasnt aiming for his head. The defender on the left hit Bouldin first bending his head down and Smith then hits Bouldin in the mask. Smith had no time to adjust his hit as it was bang bang. The hit would have been in the chest without the initial contact by the other defender. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcJet Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Notice they didn't ask Laken to be a plaintiff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 Remember that horrible helmet to helmet play he had in the end zone? I remember thinking he could have died. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrcoops Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/24/2024 at 2:57 AM, Maynard13 said: If you look at the play in slow motion, Smith wasnt aiming for his head. The defender on the left hit Bouldin first bending his head down and Smith then hits Bouldin in the mask. Smith had no time to adjust his hit as it was bang bang. The hit would have been in the chest without the initial contact by the other defender. This is true. Kerry Rhodes hits Boldin from behind, which alters his trajectory just as Smith comes in to make his hit. Smith wasn't intentionally going for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Boldin, he was going for a big hit to break up the pass. Smith was an extremely physical and aggressive safety who liked to hit, but he wasn't aiming to injure Boldin here - it was a very unfortunate sequence of events that led to both Boldin and Smith getting hurt. Boldin was a real class player, and a real class act. Even though he was very seriously injured, he didn't blame Smith for the injury and he came back ridiculously quickly after surgery and produced at his usual high level: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/sports/football/23boldin.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted March 25 Share Posted March 25 On 3/23/2024 at 12:16 PM, Jet_Engine1 said: Didn't he break Anquan Boldens face that one time? I was at that game. You heard the crack of that hit from across the entire stadium. I think that was the same game where fireworks accidentally got launched into stands (coincidentally the section I was in). Quite a game for the senses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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