Claymation Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Let me sum up, No to Deebo and Yes to Davante. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 I assume when you say Avante you mean Davante Adams? Post June 1 trade would save the Raiders 17.5 million in cap space but they don't really need it. Not sure why they'd want to trade him unless their season goes downhill quickly. What would you be willing to trade for Davante? I'd love the move if we made it. He is up there in age for a WR though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 Doh, yes Because English is my 1st language 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 11 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: I assume when you say Avante you mean Davante Adams? Post June 1 trade would save the Raiders 17.5 million in cap space but they don't really need it. Not sure why they'd want to trade him unless their season goes downhill quickly. What would you be willing to trade for Davante? I'd love the move if we made it. Because they are assuming the Raiders are going to be bad, really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, Claymation said: Because they are assuming the Raiders are going to be bad, really bad. What do you think a 32 year old elite WR with a pretty big cap hit the next 2 years is worth in trade? Current Contract (Franchise, signed 2022) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Signing Bonus Per Game Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension 2022 30 $3,500,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $250,000 $3,500,000 $12,210,000 5.9% 2023 📝 31 $6,030,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $250,000 $6,030,000 $14,740,000 6.3% 2024 32 $16,890,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $16,890,000 $25,350,000 9.7% $40,440,000 ($15,090,000) 2025 33 $35,640,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $44,100,000 17.0% $15,700,000 $28,400,000 2026 34 $36,640,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $44,100,000 15.5% $7,850,000 $36,250,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raideraholic Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Claymation said: Because they are assuming the Raiders are going to be bad, really bad. People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ghost420 Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 2 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. Why are you here 2 2 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joe W. Namath Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 11 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. You make a fool of yourself every year. Doesnt this get tiring? 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 The Jets are set at receiver. Less than 0% chance they make a trade unless garrett wilson were to suffer a serious injury and be out for the year. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jetsfan80 Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 16 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. The three constants in life: Death, taxes, and RH guaranteeing a Raider playoff berth every summer. 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post UntouchableCrew Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 16 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. You've been saying this for 20 years. I remember when Marcel Reece -- a fullback who runs a 4.42! -- was going to be a mismatch nightmare nobody could handle. 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 17 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. Yeah, uhhhh, well uhhh, that's not really what BM stands for. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said: You've been saying this for 20 years. I remember when Marcel Reece -- a fullback who runs a 4.42! -- was going to be a mismatch nightmare nobody could handle. Playoff wins RH has predicted in the preseason for the Raiders in total since 2002: ~ 35 Actual Raider playoff wins since 2002: 0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 20 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. The two best kickers!! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooooon Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 22 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. I wonder how many other message boards he posts this crap on. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 minute ago, nj meadowlands said: The two best kickers!! Just now, Tooooon said: 2 best kickers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 24 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: You make a fool of yourself every year. Doesnt this get tiring? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirorob Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 40 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. Better than Bowel Movement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 27 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. TIME TO DOMINAAAAAAAAAAATE!!!!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raideraholic Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 41 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: You make a fool of yourself every year. Doesnt this get tiring? Dude you quit on being the board captain after four plays. Pretty pathetic. You didn’t believe me when I told you the Raiders would beat them. 40 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Jets are set at receiver. Less than 0% chance they make a trade unless garrett wilson were to suffer a serious injury and be out for the year. The Jets are not set at receiver you counting on Mike Williams who never can count on being healthy. ( coming off serious injury . How much time is he going to miss , and that’s not going to ruin the timing and chemistry with A Rodgers . Third round draft choice might be good but it’s going to take time. What you have is Garrett Wilson and basically the same suspects you had last year. a Rodgers is so old he farts dust. Don’t worry Tyrod Taylor - good backup for a game but always seems to get hurt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicketybam Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Jets are going to need their future draft picks. No way should they trade for Adams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 37 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: The Jets are set at receiver. Less than 0% chance they make a trade unless garrett wilson were to suffer a serious injury and be out for the year. The Jets offense would be border line unstoppable with Davante & Williams on the outside with Garrett Wilson in the slot and Breece in the backfield. How are teams stopping that? We'd go from possible superbowl contender to a favorite in a heartbeat. I think that would be a good thing. Let's go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted June 13 Author Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: What do you think a 32 year old elite WR with a pretty big cap hit the next 2 years is worth in trade? Current Contract (Franchise, signed 2022) (📝: indicates contract trigger occuring during that year) Year Age Base Salary Prorated Signing Bonus Per Game Roster Bonus Workout Bonus Other Bonus Guaranteed Salary Cap Number Cap % Dead Money & Cap Savings Cut (pre-June 1)Cut (post-June 1)Trade (pre-June 1)Trade (post-June 1)RestructureExtension 2022 30 $3,500,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $250,000 $3,500,000 $12,210,000 5.9% 2023 📝 31 $6,030,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $250,000 $6,030,000 $14,740,000 6.3% 2024 32 $16,890,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $16,890,000 $25,350,000 9.7% $40,440,000 ($15,090,000) 2025 33 $35,640,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $44,100,000 17.0% $15,700,000 $28,400,000 2026 34 $36,640,000 $7,850,000 $510,000 $100,000 $0 $0 $44,100,000 15.5% $7,850,000 $36,250,000 Two 3rds. Maybe less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Claymation Posted June 13 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 13 56 minutes ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. I had a BM this morning after my 2nd cup of coffee. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepPep Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 36 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: The Jets offense would be border line unstoppable with Davante & Williams on the outside with Garrett Wilson in the slot and Breece in the backfield. How are teams stopping that? We'd go from possible superbowl contender to a favorite in a heartbeat. I think that would be a good thing. Let's go for it. I'm going to be honest. If we are going 'All In', I would prefer if they invested that trade capital on a really really good backup QB and/or more quality o-line depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbt Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, nj meadowlands said: The two best kickers!! its where offense is going 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JetFreak89 Posted June 13 Popular Post Share Posted June 13 1 hour ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. It's the annual Raideraholic "the Raiders are going to be the best team in the NFL" offseason post aka my reminder to change the batteries in the fire detectors day! 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sciond Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 We can trade a 2nd round pick for Hardman 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 8 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Dude you quit on being the board captain after four plays. Pretty pathetic. You didn’t believe me when I told you the Raiders would beat them. The Jets are not set at receiver you counting on Mike Williams who never can count on being healthy. ( coming off serious injury . How much time is he going to miss , and that’s not going to ruin the timing and chemistry with A Rodgers . Third round draft choice might be good but it’s going to take time. What you have is Garrett Wilson and basically the same suspects you had last year. a Rodgers is so old he farts dust. Don’t worry Tyrod Taylor - good backup for a game but always seems to get hurt. Yes but 4th round QB’s always hit the ground running, haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 9 hours ago, Raideraholic said: Dude you quit on being the board captain after four plays. Pretty pathetic. You didn’t believe me when I told you the Raiders would beat them. The Jets are not set at receiver you counting on Mike Williams who never can count on being healthy. ( coming off serious injury . How much time is he going to miss , and that’s not going to ruin the timing and chemistry with A Rodgers . Third round draft choice might be good but it’s going to take time. What you have is Garrett Wilson and basically the same suspects you had last year. a Rodgers is so old he farts dust. Don’t worry Tyrod Taylor - good backup for a game but always seems to get hurt. You can knock me for many things, but resigning as captain is not one of them. That was one of the most heroic things ive ever done in my life. Integrity personified. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
genot Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 12 hours ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJF71 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 13 hours ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. How many years have you said this for?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 21 hours ago, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. You might well be right. The Raiders turned things around quickly under Antonio Pierce and they were giving the Chiefs a lot of trouble last year. The QB is the big question mark but they have a lot else in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 Just saw a Nania tweet that the expectation currently is that Gipson is the #2 WR. Yikes. If Mike Williams isn't ready to go the Jets still have a gaping WR problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebuzzardman Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 On 6/13/2024 at 12:11 PM, Raideraholic said: People need to wake up this Raider defense will be one of the best in the league. There offense has so much talent, and they can create mismatches against any defense. They have the two best kickers . Devante Adams isn’t going anywhere this year. Raiders will be playoff team in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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