One of the most overrated players in the league - NFL Personnel Evaluator

[Claymation]

 

[slimjasi]

Just now, Claymation said:

 

"You could call holding on him on every play" isn't much of an argument, since, they don't call holding on him on every play (or very much at all). 

If your star CB gets away with "holding" on every play, that's a good thing, not a bad thing!

A more meaningful grip with Sauce would be his relative lack of interceptions. 

 

[Bronx]

Diva. 

[#27TheDominator]

I can see guys not loving him.  He is pathetic in run support and tackling in general.  Still he seems to cover really well and "getting away with holding on every play" seems more like a positive than a negative to me.  Maybe that is because when push comes to shove when you are against the big boys they will call it - didn't that happen against the Chiefs last year?  Big difference holding against the Jaguars or Broncos in November than the Chiefs or Bills in January.  Still the D basically went from worst to first simply by adding him and Reed, so the value is obviously there.

[Larz]

Click bait nonsense lol. 
 

his stats are elite 

[Matt39]

Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. 

[RutgersJetFan]

PLUS HE TWEETS STUFF

[funaz]

Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. 

I agree.

Sauce is a cool kid seems genuine enough and a good player.

But currently not worth breaking the bank over.


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[GangGreened]

This defense was miserable without CBs, giving up 40+ regularly

[Mogglez]

I better not find a single person in this thread diminishing Sauce’s value creaming over Revis in the other thread where that mercenary was b*tching about Cromartie for no reason.

[Joe W. Namath]

Who cares

[Claymation]

 

[Matt39]

42 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

This defense was miserable without CBs, giving up 40+ regularly

The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. 

[GangGreened]

16 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. 

What exactly qualifies that as their best game? If Jalen Hurts doesn’t throw that miserable pass and the Jets lose, is it still the defenses best game?

The defense was historically level bad without Sauce and Reed

[slimjasi]

14 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. 

*Sigh*

Sample sizes. Sample sizes. Sample sizes . . . 

Zach Wilson has outplayed Josh Allen on two different occasions and CJ Stroud once. 

It was one game, friend 

[Lith]

1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said:

I can see guys not loving him.  He is pathetic in run support and tackling in general.  Still he seems to cover really well and "getting away with holding on every play" seems more like a positive than a negative to me.  Maybe that is because when push comes to shove when you are against the big boys they will call it - didn't that happen against the Chiefs last year?  Big difference holding against the Jaguars or Broncos in November than the Chiefs or Bills in January.  Still the D basically went from worst to first simply by adding him and Reed, so the value is obviously there.

I would love to see him get a chance to hold against the Chiefs or Bills in January.

[Larz]

Sauce rookie season: 1st team all-pro

Sauce second season : 1st team all-pro

Jets trolls : he’s handsy and no picks. 

[T0mShane]

Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 

[Joe W. Namath]

3 minutes ago, Larz said:

Sauce rookie season: 1st team all-pro

Sauce second season : 1st team all-pro

Jets trolls : he’s handsy and no picks. 

Jet fans……….

[PS17]

4 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 

Charvarius Ward. What do I win?!

[Claymation]

3 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 

Rock Ya-Sin, that's because he has one of the coolest name ever. Next to IM Hipp

[slimjasi]

5 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 

Deion Sanders

Dude had the best pick 6 ever vs Atlanta. Show some respect. 

[BigRy56]

Sauce is on a HOF trajectory as of today

[Matt39]

32 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

What exactly qualifies that as their best game? If Jalen Hurts doesn’t throw that miserable pass and the Jets lose, is it still the defenses best game?

The defense was historically level bad without Sauce and Reed

They’re both good players. For a corner, I don’t know if he does enough to justify a major second contract to. He’s not a dynamic playmaker. 

[Jimmy 2 Times]

30 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 

Merton Hanks! 

[Warfish]

In terms of Sauce Gardner, he's far too handsy and makes too many plays with his head turned to the guy he's covering, not the ball.  He's lucky, frankly, he hasn't been called for PI more, because he's pretty obvious in his PI as part of his game.

And he gets very few INT's for an elite Corner.  And so far he's not been glued to the opponents #1 WR all game, as the truly elite guys do.

I don't know about "most overrated", but I do, and continue to, think he is overrated by Jets Fans.

He's a very good cover corner who gets away with alot of sloppy handsy play, he's not an elite cornerback primarily because he does not generate elite turnover production.

I'm glad we have him, but I don't know if, when the time comes, he's going to be worth a historic-type contract offer.

[Joe W. Namath]

2 minutes ago, Warfish said:

In terms of Sauce Gardner, he's far too handsy and makes too many plays with his head turned to the guy he's covering, not the ball.  He's lucky, frankly, he hasn't been called for PI more, because he's pretty obvious in his PI as part of his game.

And he gets very few INT's for an elite Corner.

I don't know about "most overrated", but I do, and continue to, think he is overrated by Jets Fans.

He's a very good cover corner who gets away with alot of sloppy handsy play, he's not an elite cornerback primarily because he does not generate elite turnover production.

I'm glad we have him, but I don't know if, when the time comes, he's going to be worth a historic-type contract offer.

2 years in the league and 2 years as a 1st team all pro.

But you think hes not elite.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.  You could not make this stuff up if you tried.  Too funny.

[GangGreened]

13 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

They’re both good players. For a corner, I don’t know if he does enough to justify a major second contract to. He’s not a dynamic playmaker. 

Not what I asked though 

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, slimjasi said:

"You could call holding on him on every play" isn't much of an argument, since, they don't call holding on him on every play (or very much at all). 

If your star CB gets away with "holding" on every play, that's a good thing, not a bad thing!

A more meaningful grip with Sauce would be his relative lack of interceptions. 

 

Jealousy is a wasted emotion.

   -Sauce

[GangGreened]

It’s like some of you don’t remember what this defense looked like with Bryce Hall as our CB1 (yes I’m aware it was year 1)

[The Crusher]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. 

Yeah sure, except it wasn't before he got here. 

[Warfish]

23 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said:

2 years in the league and 2 years as a 1st team all pro.

But you think hes not elite.

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA.  You could not make this stuff up if you tried.  Too funny.

Did you really feel repeating what I just said, but in a detail-less, simplistic manner, was really needed?

Pretty sure my post was VERY clear about how I view Sauce.  

[Larz]

Rookie year :

 

 

 

second year no TDs allowed.  

[rex-n-effect]

Every good player attracts these kinds of comments. As Saleh said, "if you ain't got no haters, you aren't poppin'" and that's true here. 

[Warfish]

7 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

Every good player attracts these kinds of comments. As Saleh said, "if you ain't got no haters, you aren't poppin'" and that's true here. 

Do you think Sauce is collecting receipts, like his Coach did?