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Popular Post slimjasi Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 Just now, Claymation said: "You could call holding on him on every play" isn't much of an argument, since, they don't call holding on him on every play (or very much at all). If your star CB gets away with "holding" on every play, that's a good thing, not a bad thing! A more meaningful grip with Sauce would be his relative lack of interceptions. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronx Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Diva. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #27TheDominator Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 I can see guys not loving him. He is pathetic in run support and tackling in general. Still he seems to cover really well and "getting away with holding on every play" seems more like a positive than a negative to me. Maybe that is because when push comes to shove when you are against the big boys they will call it - didn't that happen against the Chiefs last year? Big difference holding against the Jaguars or Broncos in November than the Chiefs or Bills in January. Still the D basically went from worst to first simply by adding him and Reed, so the value is obviously there. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Click bait nonsense lol. his stats are elite 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt39 Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. 1 4 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 PLUS HE TWEETS STUFF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funaz Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. I agree.Sauce is a cool kid seems genuine enough and a good player.But currently not worth breaking the bank over. Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 This defense was miserable without CBs, giving up 40+ regularly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mogglez Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 I better not find a single person in this thread diminishing Sauce’s value creaming over Revis in the other thread where that mercenary was b*tching about Cromartie for no reason. 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Who cares 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt39 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 42 minutes ago, GangGreened said: This defense was miserable without CBs, giving up 40+ regularly The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 16 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. What exactly qualifies that as their best game? If Jalen Hurts doesn’t throw that miserable pass and the Jets lose, is it still the defenses best game? The defense was historically level bad without Sauce and Reed 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post slimjasi Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 14 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The defense had their best game of the year with Sauce and Reed on the sidelines. *Sigh* Sample sizes. Sample sizes. Sample sizes . . . Zach Wilson has outplayed Josh Allen on two different occasions and CJ Stroud once. It was one game, friend 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lith Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 1 hour ago, #27TheDominator said: I can see guys not loving him. He is pathetic in run support and tackling in general. Still he seems to cover really well and "getting away with holding on every play" seems more like a positive than a negative to me. Maybe that is because when push comes to shove when you are against the big boys they will call it - didn't that happen against the Chiefs last year? Big difference holding against the Jaguars or Broncos in November than the Chiefs or Bills in January. Still the D basically went from worst to first simply by adding him and Reed, so the value is obviously there. I would love to see him get a chance to hold against the Chiefs or Bills in January. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Larz Posted July 18 Popular Post Share Posted July 18 Sauce rookie season: 1st team all-pro Sauce second season : 1st team all-pro Jets trolls : he’s handsy and no picks. 7 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 3 minutes ago, Larz said: Sauce rookie season: 1st team all-pro Sauce second season : 1st team all-pro Jets trolls : he’s handsy and no picks. Jet fans………. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS17 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 4 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? Charvarius Ward. What do I win?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claymation Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 3 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? Rock Ya-Sin, that's because he has one of the coolest name ever. Next to IM Hipp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 5 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? Deion Sanders Dude had the best pick 6 ever vs Atlanta. Show some respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRy56 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Sauce is on a HOF trajectory as of today 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 32 minutes ago, GangGreened said: What exactly qualifies that as their best game? If Jalen Hurts doesn’t throw that miserable pass and the Jets lose, is it still the defenses best game? The defense was historically level bad without Sauce and Reed They’re both good players. For a corner, I don’t know if he does enough to justify a major second contract to. He’s not a dynamic playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy 2 Times Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 30 minutes ago, T0mShane said: Can you name a Niners CB off the top of your head? Merton Hanks! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 In terms of Sauce Gardner, he's far too handsy and makes too many plays with his head turned to the guy he's covering, not the ball. He's lucky, frankly, he hasn't been called for PI more, because he's pretty obvious in his PI as part of his game. And he gets very few INT's for an elite Corner. And so far he's not been glued to the opponents #1 WR all game, as the truly elite guys do. I don't know about "most overrated", but I do, and continue to, think he is overrated by Jets Fans. He's a very good cover corner who gets away with alot of sloppy handsy play, he's not an elite cornerback primarily because he does not generate elite turnover production. I'm glad we have him, but I don't know if, when the time comes, he's going to be worth a historic-type contract offer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 minutes ago, Warfish said: In terms of Sauce Gardner, he's far too handsy and makes too many plays with his head turned to the guy he's covering, not the ball. He's lucky, frankly, he hasn't been called for PI more, because he's pretty obvious in his PI as part of his game. And he gets very few INT's for an elite Corner. I don't know about "most overrated", but I do, and continue to, think he is overrated by Jets Fans. He's a very good cover corner who gets away with alot of sloppy handsy play, he's not an elite cornerback primarily because he does not generate elite turnover production. I'm glad we have him, but I don't know if, when the time comes, he's going to be worth a historic-type contract offer. 2 years in the league and 2 years as a 1st team all pro. But you think hes not elite. HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. You could not make this stuff up if you tried. Too funny. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 13 minutes ago, Matt39 said: They’re both good players. For a corner, I don’t know if he does enough to justify a major second contract to. He’s not a dynamic playmaker. Not what I asked though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, slimjasi said: "You could call holding on him on every play" isn't much of an argument, since, they don't call holding on him on every play (or very much at all). If your star CB gets away with "holding" on every play, that's a good thing, not a bad thing! A more meaningful grip with Sauce would be his relative lack of interceptions. Jealousy is a wasted emotion. -Sauce 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GangGreened Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 It’s like some of you don’t remember what this defense looked like with Bryce Hall as our CB1 (yes I’m aware it was year 1) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 2 hours ago, Matt39 said: Good player. Not dynamic. Would think long about giving him a max level CB contract. Defense would be good with or without him. Yeah sure, except it wasn't before he got here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 23 minutes ago, Joe W. Namath said: 2 years in the league and 2 years as a 1st team all pro. But you think hes not elite. HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. You could not make this stuff up if you tried. Too funny. Did you really feel repeating what I just said, but in a detail-less, simplistic manner, was really needed? Pretty sure my post was VERY clear about how I view Sauce. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Rookie year : second year no TDs allowed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rex-n-effect Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 Every good player attracts these kinds of comments. As Saleh said, "if you ain't got no haters, you aren't poppin'" and that's true here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted July 18 Share Posted July 18 7 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said: Every good player attracts these kinds of comments. As Saleh said, "if you ain't got no haters, you aren't poppin'" and that's true here. Do you think Sauce is collecting receipts, like his Coach did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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