Smashmouth Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 11 minutes ago, LockeJET said: They are definitely bringing him in if Tua misses significant time. he may be missing the rest of his career if its a bad concussion like the ones he had in the past Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 They did their best to be Idiots like us letting Mike White go 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 22 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Why have Waddle and Hill been on the sidelines all quarter? Did they quit on the team or something? Doesn’t make sense given that Achane was in there despite being a game time decision entering the night. I suspect Hill is hurt to some degree. He was on the sidelines a fair number of plays before tua went out. I questioned why on the first drive the Dolphins had Hill and Waddle sitting on the 3rd and 13 which resulted in the 1st int. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffneycatch81 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 34 minutes ago, jgb said: He should sue them if they did not NFL players who get big contracts commonly take out insurance policies for career ending injuries. I would think his agent set him up with that if the contract is not protected against injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie Green Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: I suspect Hill is hurt to some degree. He was on the sidelines a fair number of plays before tua went out. I questioned why on the first drive the Dolphins had Hill and Waddle sitting on the 3rd and 13 which resulted in the 1st int. Cops like to try and dislocate joints when they can get their hands on you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 32 minutes ago, Beerfish said: McDaniel has made the playoffs both years he has coached, light years better than bobby Saleh yeah with Tua at QB. in the 3 games he didnt have Tua he was 1-3. if Tua is out for the year lets see how many wins he gets with a QB room just as bad as Saleh had last year. we will see how many light years he is ahead of him. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetsons Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 bye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, slimjasi said: Remarkably bad decision Was watching the second half garbage time. McDaniels looked p1ssed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 22 minutes ago, doitny said: yeah with Tua at QB. in the 3 games he didnt have Tua he was 1-3. if Tua is out for the year lets see how many wins he gets with a QB room just as bad as Saleh had last year. we will see how many light years he is ahead of him. Dolphins are going to try to talk Bridgewater out of retirement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sperm Edwards Posted September 13 Popular Post Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Pretty sure Tua’s contract is almost entirely fully guaranteed, even for injury? In which case if he retired, I think the Dolphins would face something not far off from that $132M dead cap hit, no? @Sperm Edwards? from spotrac: $93.171M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2024 salary + 2025 salary + 2025 roster bonus) 2025 Roster Bonus: $25M (guaranteed) $54M 2026 salary fully guarantees March 2025 (injury guaranteed at sign) $3M of 2027 salary fully guarantees March 2026 (injury guaranteed at sign) Additional $17M of 2027 salary fully guarantees March 2027 (injury guaranteed at sign) So if this is all correct it’d seem - if he gets a neurologist or two to say his career is 100% over and the team doesn’t fight it - some $192MM was injury guaranteed at signing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 57 minutes ago, jgb said: If he’s forced medically to retire, you’re probably right. If he just pulls a Gastineau, he’d probably forfeit the guarantees tied to future years. I don't think we've ever seen a situation like this if it happens. I'd assume it would be some sort of injury settlement. I don't know, even if he gave up the money, that he can give it up in a way to remove the cap hit. Maybe renegotiate his deal to remove it then retire? I hope someone writes up or has a youtube video about the implications. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycdan Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 53 minutes ago, PS17 said: This man must have incriminating evidence on every front office in football. He's pretty much the worst QB in league history but sticks around year after year. How quickly they forget... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prodigal Syndicate Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Tua should consider his well being and retire. Don't ruin your whole life for a game. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdels62 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 4 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: According to @kdels62 so is Rachaad White. Breece Hall all-purpose yards in 2023- 1585 Rachaad White all-purpose yards in 2023- 1542 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Compared to a Zach game? This is the 1958 NFL Championship, 1981 NFC Title Game ("The Catch"), Super Bowl III, The Ice Bowl, Wide Right and the Monday Night Miracle all wrapped up into one.Why are you so obsessed w Zach ? I never mentioned the guy.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 28 minutes ago, Dunnie said: Why are you so obsessed w Zach ? I never mentioned the guy. Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk You’re guilty by association. Sorry buddy, I didn’t make the rules on that. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunnie Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 You’re guilty by association. Sorry buddy, I didn’t make the rules on that.You be you bro ... No one's stopping you.Sent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Tua I doubt hangs it up. He should… but he won’t. And it will be controversial. Bc I can guarantee you with his history this won’t be his last concussion. I’m positive multiple doctors will tell him to stop. But he won’t listen. That all being said. He should’ve gotten down yesterday. He easily could have but chose to take a hit. I think that’s why McDaniels seemed pissed. I’m sure there’s been countless conversations given Tua’s history to not take hits. Get down even if it’s a bad loss. Given up yards, etc. And I know it’s easier said than done in the heat of a competitive game. But he’s the one bc of his history that needed to be forced to change his instincts. To protect himself. And he didn’t. And I hope the guy is ok. Because hits like that when you have his history are life threatening. Not just a headache for a few days. It is pretty wild to see that with Tua’s history they didn’t do more at backup QB. They’re worse than we are at QB depth last year. But as I stated. I don’t think Tua misses more than a few weeks. Which will be controversial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: from spotrac: $93.171M guaranteed at signing (signing bonus + 2024 salary + 2025 salary + 2025 roster bonus) 2025 Roster Bonus: $25M (guaranteed) $54M 2026 salary fully guarantees March 2025 (injury guaranteed at sign) $3M of 2027 salary fully guarantees March 2026 (injury guaranteed at sign) Additional $17M of 2027 salary fully guarantees March 2027 (injury guaranteed at sign) So if this is all correct it’d seem - if he gets a neurologist or two to say his career is 100% over and the team doesn’t fight it - some $192MM was injury guaranteed at signing. Should not be too hard they were telling him to retire from the severe concussions a few years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashmouth Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 3 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: You’re guilty by association. Sorry buddy, I didn’t make the rules on that. Fidelio as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 2 hours ago, Bobby816 said: Tua I doubt hangs it up. He should… but he won’t. And it will be controversial. Bc I can guarantee you with his history this won’t be his last concussion. It is pretty wild to see that with Tua’s history they didn’t do more at backup QB. They’re worse than we are at QB depth last year. But as I stated. I don’t think Tua misses more than a few weeks. Which will be controversial. These GM's are so over rated. Great point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 6 hours ago, Beerfish said: McDaniel has made the playoffs both years he has coached, light years better than bobby Saleh Sad..... but true. Our golfing, weight lifting HC is a fraud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1. I pray Tua is healthy. The man needs to think about his family and his quality of life 10-30 years from now. 2. This Thompson guy might honestly be the worst QB, ever. Worse than Tim Boyle. 3. McDaniels on crack, on meth, drunk over Four Loko’s is a better coach than Robert Saleh. I can seriously name 20 coaches I’d rather have than Saleh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Tua would walk away with roughly $172 million in his pocket if he is forced into retirement for health issues. Bro, walk the hell away my man. You got a family and a life outside of football. Take the HUGE amount of money and go enjoy your family and life. If he comes back again, he is the very definition of stupid. On another note, the Dolphins situation is a mess now! Huge contracts given out on the idea that Tua was their guy. What a mess they are in now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesr Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1. I pray Tua is healthy. The man needs to think about his family and his quality of life 10-30 years from now. 2. This Thompson guy might honestly be the worst QB, ever. Worse than Tim Boyle. 3. McDaniels on crack, on meth, drunk over Four Loko’s is a better coach than Robert Saleh. I can seriously name 20 coaches I’d rather have than Saleh. Check out Skylar's record vs the Jets ... https://www.espn.co.uk/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/401437955#homeSent from my Pixel 7 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 38 minutes ago, Falco21 said: On another note, the Dolphins situation is a mess now! Huge contracts given out on the idea that Tua was their guy. What a mess they are in now Plus they (very foolishly) got rid of My Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetPotato Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 I feel terrible for Tua. I hope he does the right thing for himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Ghost said: 1. I pray Tua is healthy. The man needs to think about his family and his quality of life 10-30 years from now. 2. This Thompson guy might honestly be the worst QB, ever. Worse than Tim Boyle. 3. McDaniels on crack, on meth, drunk over Four Loko’s is a better coach than Robert Saleh. I can seriously name 20 coaches I’d rather have than Saleh. Only 20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 He should change his name from Tua to Tuna because if he keeps playing his brain will be Sushi grade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varjet Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 hour ago, Falco21 said: Tua would walk away with roughly $172 million in his pocket if he is forced into retirement for health issues I don’t disagree but I think this is easier said than done in the NFL. Steven Ross is not giving up all that money, and the way the cap works would be prohibitive. The cap hit mechanism actually makes it very hard for teams to manage injuries like this. The Dolphins are supposed to take a $192mm cap hit? I think practically he lingers on the roster for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falco21 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 1 minute ago, varjet said: I don’t disagree but I think this is easier said than done in the NFL. Steven Ross is not giving up all that money, and the way the cap works would be prohibitive. The cap hit mechanism actually makes it very hard for teams to manage injuries like this. The Dolphins are supposed to take a $192mm cap hit? I think practically he lingers on the roster for a while. Tua was given a $43 million signing bonus. He was guaranteed $93 million when he signed the contract. Another $54 million becomes guaranteed in March of 2025. The biggest part of that would be the $54 million, which he may not get. So at worst, he walks away with $136 million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JiFtheOracle Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 10 hours ago, JiFtheOracle said: Miami must have skipped preseason. Any updates on this? Inquiring minds would like to know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 5 minutes ago, varjet said: I don’t disagree but I think this is easier said than done in the NFL. Steven Ross is not giving up all that money, and the way the cap works would be prohibitive. The cap hit mechanism actually makes it very hard for teams to manage injuries like this. The Dolphins are supposed to take a $192mm cap hit? I think practically he lingers on the roster for a while. He will probably take the rest of this season off and try to come back next year as a bridge qb after the dolphins draft Sanders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Thornburgh Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 Just now, Falco21 said: Tua was given a $43 million signing bonus. He was guaranteed $93 million when he signed the contract. Another $54 million becomes guaranteed in March of 2025. The biggest part of that would be the $54 million, which he may not get. So at worst, he walks away with $136 million. Can I retire with that severance package? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 17 hours ago, nj meadowlands said: o/u of 48.5 feels a little light, no? Bills in a shootout? UPDATE: Vegas always seems to know what's up. (Without the Tua concussion I imagine the O/U would have been spot on, with Buffalo winning 31-17 or something like that). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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