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each team had 60 minutes to win the game.

Offense and defense are both necessary to win games.

Its the best system around. The college ot system is a joke.

Agreed.

You want the ball? Stop the other team. You want to win? Stop the other team or win in regulation. Titans had plenty of chances. Tennessee badly outplayed Pittsburgh until the very end, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

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Agreed.

You want the ball? Stop the other team. You want to win? Stop the other team or win in regulation. Titans had plenty of chances. Tennessee badly outplayed Pittsburgh until the very end, they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Just like the AFC Divisional against Baltimore. Tennessee has multiple chances, yet they blow all of them.

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Another very good performance from Ben. The guy is ridiculous when the game is on the line.

Pittsburghs running game is terrible, I mean God awful. Their backs are far from special and teh offensive line creates no holes. This offense is so much better in the no huddle/hurry up situations where the put the game in #7's hands.

Great game to open the season BTW.

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I'm thinking about how we are going to play the Titans. I am not worried about our defense, although I hope Ryan has taken notice of Britt. I followed him at Rutgers and knew he was something and this is just a taste of the athleticism and versatility he brings, and I would hate to see Shepard getting his ass handed to him by a rookie. Better give him some help Ryan. Maybe I'm looking too far ahead but that run-stopping defense looks pretty scary. Now I know our O-line is much better than Pittsburgh's, but we are going to have to take to the air and make some explosive plays if we are going to take this week three game. And that will make this game a true test of Sanchez' arm and his chemistry with the receivers. One weakness to note is the Titans aren't quite as deep as they want to be, and when their defense grew tired toward the end of the game their play too dropped off. I believe if we can stay close, we will have the opportunity at the end of the game to drive for the victory.

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Another very good performance from Ben. The guy is ridiculous when the game is on the line.

Pittsburghs running game is terrible, I mean God awful. Their backs are far from special and teh offensive line creates no holes. This offense is so much better in the no huddle/hurry up situations where the put the game in #7's hands.

Great game to open the season BTW.

I have been preaching that for over a year now. Run the damn no-huddle like the Bills used to with Jim Kelly. Ben's at his best in that scheme.

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You shouldn't be punished with a loss when you hold the offense out of the red zone on the first drive, only to see them kick their way to a win. Crossing the goal line is the whole point in football: the field goal is a consolation for making it far enough down the field to account for something.

Don't get me wrong, Titans had ample opportunities to win, and blew it. But overtime still needs to change. In a perfect world, the first team to score 7 points in an overtime would win.

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You shouldn't be punished with a loss when you hold the offense out of the red zone on the first drive, only to see them kick their way to a win. Crossing the goal line is the whole point in football: the field goal is a consolation for making it far enough down the field to account for something.

Don't get me wrong, Titans had ample opportunities to win, and blew it. But overtime still needs to change. In a perfect world, the first team to score 7 points in an overtime would win.

This works except in extreme cases. Like the Miami/Pittsburgh game a couple years ago, where they played in hurricane like weather, and the only three points of the game came in the last two minutes. To have a rule that would have forced them to score 7 points would have made that horrible game even worse.

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You shouldn't be punished with a loss when you hold the offense out of the red zone on the first drive, only to see them kick their way to a win. Crossing the goal line is the whole point in football: the field goal is a consolation for making it far enough down the field to account for something.

Don't get me wrong, Titans had ample opportunities to win, and blew it. But overtime still needs to change. In a perfect world, the first team to score 7 points in an overtime would win.

actually first team to score 6 points or give each team at least one offensive possession.

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Another very good performance from Ben. The guy is ridiculous when the game is on the line.

Pittsburghs running game is terrible, I mean God awful. Their backs are far from special and teh offensive line creates no holes. This offense is so much better in the no huddle/hurry up situations where the put the game in #7's hands.

Great game to open the season BTW.

Cmon he lost to Shaq in the celebrity challenge. Ben is overrated. :winking0001:

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each team had 60 minutes to win the game.

Offense and defense are both necessary to win games.

Its the best system around. The college ot system is a joke.

o' rly ?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/john_lopez/09/11/overtime/index.html

The best overtime system in sports? We'll get to that. But first, let's outline the four factors used to determine which league does it best when regulation play is not enough:

1. Fairness -- Yup, the day is coming when the NFL's greatest game, the Super Bowl, will be decided in large part by a coin flip. And imagine the uproar and outcry for change then. Already, the world's biggest game, soccer's World Cup, has been decided by a glorified shell game, most recently in 2006 with a penalty-kick shootout. Guessing games should not help determine champions.

2. Drama -- If you can feel a knot in your stomach and lump in your throat, the overtime system has done its job. If you experience a nervous twitch, better still. Remember that feeling you had right before Carlton Fisk's Game 6 swing? Or Boise State going for two and Ian Johnson taking the Statue of Liberty handoff? Or Tiger staring down the putt on No. 18 -- the 90th hole -- at Torrey Pines? That's drama.

3. Authenticity -- Is the overtime legit? Does it really determine the best team or player? And does it avoid compromising the integrity of the game for the sake of time, simplicity and/or TV? College football overtimes are fun and exciting, but they hardly stay true to the kind of football played through the first 60 minutes.

4. Fan friendly -- If a fan has to have the rules of overtime explained to him/her, it's probably not a good overtime (see college football, soccer and the Arena Football League).

Considering those factors, two sports clearly have the overtime edge. But if we're talking about the best and worst tiebreakers, we can't have a tie at the top, now, can we? So we'll give the edge to baseball, because it is a team sport, with more moving parts involved and much more coaching strategy and dependence on depth.

The best (and worst) overtime systems:

1. Baseball (pro and college) -- The big-leaguers and major league-wannabes lead the class on all four fronts. Extra-innings could not be more equitable. The teams play until there is a winner. No sport offers more overtime drama, because none gives you more time to think about all the potential ecstasy or angst. When the Mets and Astros played arguably the greatest baseball game ever in the 1986 NLCS, emotion swings were dizzying through nearly five hours and 16 innings. When Boston College and Texas locked into an NCAA Tournament marathon in March 2009, they just played. And played. And played. For 25 innings. Authenticity? Nothing changes from regulation to overtime in baseball -- pitchers pitch, hitters hit, fielders field. There's no clock and no special overtime rules. And it's about as Fan Friendly as any game gets.

2. Tennis -- Andy Roddick and Roger Federer played 95-minutes of heart-stopping tennis at this year's Wimbledon Final. That was in the fifth-set alone, in which Federer ultimately prevailed 16-14. Like baseball, the rules don't change, the players keep playing and the emotion and drama can be drenching. Tennis may not be close to the most popular sport in this country anymore, but it does it right.

3. NBA/NCAA basketball -- The only things that keep basketball from being the best system are players fouling out and bad free-throw shooters. The fairness and authenticity are top-notch. Drama can be more exhilarating than in any other sport, with Christian Laettner- or Michael Jordan-like moments. But hoops loses a bit to baseball and tennis because the best players are not always on the floor. They foul out.

And If more players could make free throws, the final two minutes of a game would be much more exciting (and would not take 20 minutes to play). Coaches would not be nearly as willing to send opposing players to the free-throw line down the stretch.

4. NHL/Hockey -- Some of the greatest overtime games ever played have been in the Stanley Cup playoffs. The overtime system is just about perfect, except for a pair of warts that loom large when it comes to Authenticity and Fan Friendliness.

Only in the postseason does hockey play until there is a decision. In the regular season the sport goes the sudden death and shootout route. And the NHL remains a sport whose message gets lost on casual fans, unless they're watching on HD. A lot of fans just don't watch hockey, which means when they do, they just don't get the rules.

5. Golf -- It compromises little when it comes to overtime. Tied after 72-holes? Fine, let's play 73, 74, 75, whatever it takes. Special mention should go to the U.S. Open, which takes the playoff to the next level, playing an entire extra 18 holes or more the next day.

Still, because some players' games are more suited for certain holes than others, the Authenticity can be compromised if the playoff hole suits one player more. Golf also loses points because it is an individual sport, and it can be less than Fan Friendly if the playoff is called for darkness.

6. NCAA football -- Admit it, you still have to think hard or maybe read the TV graphic whenever a college football game goes into overtime. Is it after two overtimes when a team has to go for a two-point conversion, or after three? (It's after two, by the way.) But as much as college football passes the Drama and Fairness tests, providing superb finishes in recent years, it fails miserably on Authenticity and Fan Friendliness.

Most fans have not committed college overtime rules to memory. And starting at the 25-yard-line with no kickoffs involved is not how the game is meant to be played. Any time a team conceivably could have a game-winning "drive" without even getting a first-down, something's wrong.

7. AFL/AFL2 -- OK, it's the now defunct Arena Football League, but the AFL2 is alive and well. It's not Fan Friendly because of its lack of broad appeal, nor Authentic. Let's face it. It's gym-class football. But it still had a good overtime system that works. Take note, NFL. Each team gets one possession in overtime. If the teams remained tied, the game becomes sudden-death and is played until there is a winner.

8. NASCAR -- There's a certain letdown anytime there's a wreck or breakdown late in a race and the 500-mile race has to become 500-plus. Here comes the Yellow Flag, literally bringing a bump-and-grind race to a screeching halt. In July '08, NASCAR instituted an overtime procedure, where one attempt would be made at a green/white/checker finish if a caution occurs within the final two laps. And the green-white-checker overtime finish offers big-time thrills and racing. The biggest problem is in a sport where fuel regulation is so important, some run out of gas or sputter and the best car and driver do not always win.

9. World Cup/soccer -- The NCAA uses a Golden Goal rule, which is a fancy way of saying sudden death. Not good. FIFA, however, at least tries to finish a game true to regulation. An extra 30 minutes of soccer is played, with the teams switching sides after 15 minutes. The problem is, if after 30 minutes the teams remain tied, the teams play a penalty-kick shootout, which is little more than a guessing game on the goalkeeper's part. It stinks.

10. NFL -- Heads we win, tails you lose. For such a detail-oriented league that demands perfection, from how players wear their socks to constantly tweaking rules, to leave the overtime system as is remains a mystery.

Last season the system left Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots out of the Super Bowl race. The Patriots, you'll recall, lost a 34-31 regular-season game to the Jets, with Brett Favre leading his team to the winning field goal on the extra period's first possession. Patriots backup Matt Cassel, subbing for the injured Brady, could only watch from the sideline and the 11-5 Pats eventually missed the playoffs by a single game. :headbang:

Manning had a similarly frustrating front-row seat to all that is wrong with the NFL's overtime system a few weeks later. Manning never even got to touch the football in overtime, and the Colts were ousted by the Chargers in the wild card round. Clearly, the system needs to be changed.

There are a number of options out there, although most either would be nixed by the NFL Players Association or muddy the game. Play a full overtime quarter? Perhaps. Use the NCAA system? Never. Too much of a risk for injury if the overtime goes long. Give each team one possession before heading into sudden death if they remain tied? This was one option the competition committee apparently considered, but did not like.

Might I suggest a first-to-six option? The first team to score six points wins. It wouldn't have helped Manning's Colts last season, but, hey, if you can't keep the opponent out of the end zone, that's your problem. First-to-six also rewards the daring. Say the Cowboys have a fourth-and-two at the Redskins 10. Should they kick a field goal and risk the Redskins scoring a touchdown? Or go for it and risk not making it?

However the NFL does it, it needs to get done quickly.

Until its system changes, the best league on earth only will continue to leave fans with an empty, unfulfilled feeling. Sort of like Manning last January.

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"10. NFL -- Heads we win, tails you lose. For such a detail-oriented league that demands perfection, from how players wear their socks to constantly tweaking rules, to leave the overtime system as is remains a mystery.

Last season the system left Peyton Manning's Colts and Tom Brady's Patriots out of the Super Bowl race. The Patriots, you'll recall, lost a 34-31 regular-season game to the Jets, with Brett Favre leading his team to the winning field goal on the extra period's first possession. Patriots backup Matt Cassel, subbing for the injured Brady, could only watch from the sideline and the 11-5 Pats eventually missed the playoffs by a single game"

wtf - OMG BECAUSE IT'S BRADY AND PEYTON WE MUST EXTEND THE OVERTIME RULE!@!@!@

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