Next year will be the last year of the Sanchize era....which current College QB would you like to see take over in 2014? Now keep in mind that the Chiefs have the inside track for the #1 pick....The jets at 6-10 will probably pick in the 8-10 draft pick area.
I say they go for Landry Jones or the Texas Tech QB.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 05:57 AM
The important thing to remember about Sanchez's imminent demise here: it's a complete institutional failure. This isn't just about one guy being a bad football player, or a team making a bad pick. This is about an owner looking for a marketable entity; a GM that traded up to draft a player with a significant bust factor attached to him: and a coaching staff, led by holdovers who had already failed with Clemens, completely f*cking up the development process of the player. Don't let them sell you the "draft is a crapshoot" narrative. This is bigger than that.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 06:35 AM
The important thing to remember about Sanchez's imminent demise here: it's a complete institutional failure. This isn't just about one guy being a bad football player, or a team making a bad pick. This is about an owner looking for a marketable entity; a GM that traded up to draft a player with a significant bust factor attached to him: and a coaching staff, led by holdovers who had already failed with Clemens, completely f*cking up the development process of the player. Don't let them sell you the "draft is a crapshoot" narrative. This is bigger than that.
It sounds so eloquent when you put it that way.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:23 AM
The important thing to remember about Sanchez's imminent demise here: it's a complete institutional failure. This isn't just about one guy being a bad football player, or a team making a bad pick. This is about an owner looking for a marketable entity; a GM that traded up to draft a player with a significant bust factor attached to him: and a coaching staff, led by holdovers who had already failed with Clemens, completely f*cking up the development process of the player. Don't let them sell you the "draft is a crapshoot" narrative. This is bigger than that.
exactly-the biggest failure IMO is the complete disregard to surround a young QB with a consistent set of weapons for him to throw to. The Jets had it when we had a receiving corps of Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, and Dustin Keller. Now of course we're going to get the smart alecks who are going to say whatever they are always saying about Edwards being this or that and his injury but they should never have let him and Cotchery go the way they did. They SHOULD have found a way to make it happen the same way that they always seem to find that way for any defensive player that Rex Ryan covets. Look at who the guy is throwing to right now-his best receiver is a guy the Dolphins cut. Say what you will but the Jets performed some real magic with that WR corps.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 07:24 AM
exactly-the biggest failure IMO is the complete disregard to surround a young QB with a consistent set of weapons for him to throw to. The Jets had it when we had a receiving corps of Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, and Dustin Keller. Now of course we're going to get the smart alecks who are going to say whatever they are always saying about Edwards being this or that and his injury but they should never have let him and Cotchery go the way they did. They SHOULD have found a way to make it happen the same way that they always seem to find that way for any defensive player that Rex Ryan covets. Look at who the guy is throwing to right now-his best receiver is a guy the Dolphins cut. Say what you will but the Jets performed some real magic with that WR corps.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:35 AM
The important thing to remember about Sanchez's imminent demise here: it's a complete institutional failure. This isn't just about one guy being a bad football player, or a team making a bad pick. This is about an owner looking for a marketable entity; a GM that traded up to draft a player with a significant bust factor attached to him: and a coaching staff, led by holdovers who had already failed with Clemens, completely f*cking up the development process of the player. Don't let them sell you the "draft is a crapshoot" narrative. This is bigger than that.
This is true.....since Parcells we have not had a football mind in charge here. With Sanchez, he is scapegoat No. 2. The first one was Shotty. I honestly believe, Sanchez was (as in past tense) serviceable. I do not believe thats the case any longer.
No comes the million dollar wake up call.....after this past sunday's game with Miami....this whole sh*t is now on Rex, his coaching staff and Tanny.
Everyone wants to hammer Sanchez, that's fine and rightfully so. But Rex is clueless. And anyone hanging there hats on this guy is only kidding themselves. He is a "good" DC and that's it.
This regime has turned our team into a ****en clown circus.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 08:44 AM
This is true.....since Parcells we have not had a football mind in charge here. With Sanchez, he is scapegoat No. 2. The first one was Shotty. I honestly believe, Sanchez was (as in past tense) serviceable. I do not believe thats the case any longer.
No comes the million dollar wake up call.....after this past sunday's game with Miami....this whole sh*t is now on Rex, his coaching staff and Tanny.
Everyone wants to hammer Sanchez, that's fine and rightfully so. But Rex is clueless. And anyone hanging there hats on this guy is only kidding themselves. He is a "good" DC and that's it.
This regime has turned our team into a ****en clown circus.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:12 AM
Don't let them sell you the "draft is a crapshoot" narrative. This is bigger than that.
the draft is a crapshoot. Besides making a bad pick, the systemic problem is one of expectations. Jets fans think a 5 pick is the same as a 1 pick. If you want a 1 pick you have to make a 1 pick. Taking Sanchez and pretending he's Eli is not gonna work.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:16 AM
the draft is a crapshoot. Besides making a bad pick, the systemic problem is one of expectations. Jets fans think a 5 pick is the same as a 1 pick. If you want a 1 pick you have to make a 1 pick. Taking Sanchez and pretending he's Eli is not gonna work.
This is absurd. The problem isn't that he hasn't been Eli. It's that he hasn't even been Josh ****ing Freeman.
This is like having a cat with leukemia.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:22 AM
This is absurd. The problem isn't that he hasn't been Eli. It's that he hasn't even been Josh ****ing Freeman.
freeman is a mid-late 1 like Aaron Rodgers, Chad or Tebow. There's a huge range of outcomes with late 1 QBs, most of which are not good.
my point is if we look at the QBs who are picked at 5 overall (or in that neighborhood) it's a very different list than the Qb's that are picked at one. Sanchez might go on to have a career like Dilfer or Kerry Collins. That's still possible. Or he could crap out like Joey Harrington.
Jets fans expected him to be John Elway or Peyton Manning but he was never that type of prospect.
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:26 AM
how about we don't look at drafting another QB and trade for one instead?
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Posted 01 November 2012 - 11:30 AM
exactly-the biggest failure IMO is the complete disregard to surround a young QB with a consistent set of weapons for him to throw to. The Jets had it when we had a receiving corps of Santonio Holmes, Braylon Edwards, Jerricho Cotchery, and Dustin Keller. Now of course we're going to get the smart alecks who are going to say whatever they are always saying about Edwards being this or that and his injury but they should never have let him and Cotchery go the way they did. They SHOULD have found a way to make it happen the same way that they always seem to find that way for any defensive player that Rex Ryan covets. Look at who the guy is throwing to right now-his best receiver is a guy the Dolphins cut. Say what you will but the Jets performed some real magic with that WR corps.
You are partially right, but I think you realize that Sanchez is an inaccurate passer. His completion percentages with good and bad receivers have been dismal, compared to the decent QBs in the league. Everybody blamed Schotty (me included) and I will never waver from my conviction that he was a Schottenheimer and therefore a loser dxown deep, but the guy closest to Sanchez has been Cavanagh, Rex's bud, and this guy has no track record of any consequence. So it is partially the help, for sure, but the guy did not have it.
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