JetNation Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Here is an interesting story from News 12 that will have the interest of football fans that travel to Metlife Stadium. Can you imagine going to a football game and then heading over to a casino for some post game fun? Fans might want NFL Gambling but that isn’t going to happen. If this proposal goes through, visiting a casino after the game could spice up the game day experience. EAST RUTHERFORD – Hard Rock International and the Meadowlands Racetrack are proposing a casino at the Meadowlands, which experts say could be one of the most successful in the country. The project, that will be unveiled next week, could generate $500 million in tax revenue for the state. It could also provide a new source of cash for Atlantic City’s struggling casinos, which have fought the proposal as it has been floated and debated in recent years. Jim Kirkos with the Meadowland Chamber of Commerce says many people come to MetLife Stadium and the surrounding area to attend many high profile events, so the casino could really be an attraction. “Visitors that come for those types of events, they want more things to do here,” he says. “Creating more entertainment options is in everyone’s best interest.” Meadowlands Racing Chairman Jeff Gural says the casino would pay a 55 percent tax rate on winnings. Atlantic City’s casinos pay 8 percent. But before it could happen, New Jersey’s Constitution would have to be amended in a statewide vote. Four of Atlantic City’s 12 casinos closed last year, and gambling revenue has been falling steadily for eight years. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Atlantic City will and have been fighting this along with the South Jersey politicians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Atlantic City will and have been fighting this along with the South Jersey politicians they have just about lost that fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Please make it happen. A casino in that location would finally kill the business model for Connecticut, Atlantic City and now Pennsylvania casinos who have been relying on New York city and long Island gambling dollars for years. In order to rely on those dollars, you have to make sure there is not local alternative. The future presidential ambitions the governor of NY recently created yet another parasite on the NY gambler, Upstate New York. A casino in the Meadowlands location instantly breaks that "monopoly" and the Catskills can, not to put too fine a point on it, go eff themselves. New York city or long island gambling would not be too far behind as there would be little point in upstate politicians objecting any more. Keep the rake to a reasonable level and let the hold'em commence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Only in the northeast can legal bookmaking operations fail (AC, OTB). I have little faith in the politicians. That said, the sports gambling issue in NJ isn't totally dead yet is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The NJ Supreme Court has to rule on allowing sports betting in a case before it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Makes too much sense. Stupid not to do it. That cesspool off the Belt Parkway is pulling in cash hand over foot. Could only imagine how good a casino right on the Turnpike would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 What four casinos closed down? This makes all the sense in the world. Jets fans are going to be on tilt after a loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 What four casinos closed down? This makes all the sense in the world. Jets fans are going to be on tilt after a loss. showboat, revel, trump tower, ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 The Hackensack Swamp has come a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 showboat, revel, trump tower, ??? The Sands is gone a while now. The Trop ins't closed but seems to change hands every few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 what, the indoor ski ramp isn't enough for you people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 God no. More drunks, more piss, fewer parking spots. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj meadowlands Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 God no. More drunks, more piss, fewer parking spots. SAR I The **** would you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The **** would you know? Degenerate gamblers tend to drink alcohol. It's a well known fact. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Bye bye AC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's laughable that people would want this. Casinos take money from hard working people. That's the entire business model. Take people's money by presenting an illusion of potential wealth. It's the biggest scam on earth. So yeah.. let's put a casino within walking distance from drunken defeated/elated sports fans. Talk about licking their chops. They're already counting their money and there's no way the NJ "Gov't" doesn't pass this. It's a whole new level of misery waiting for Jets fans. Losing on a blocked FG to the friggin Pats then go and lose the rest of the paycheck before sitting in the traffic to go home and explain yourself. The suicide rate will triple in 6 months. YAAAAAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The Sands is gone a while now. The Trop ins't closed but seems to change hands every few months. If you thought AC was f-@ked now wait until this happens it will be the new Camden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 So, I guess the proposed mall/high end restaurant concept is dead? LMFAO! What a cluster fuk that location has been. If you look under debacle in the dictionary, you see that Xanadu site right next to Leon Hess' tenure as our owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Degenerate gamblers tend to drink alcohol. It's a well known fact. SAR I What about recreational gamblers? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 So, I guess the proposed mall/high end restaurant concept is dead? LMFAO! What a cluster fuk that location has been. If you look under debacle in the dictionary, you see that Xanadu site right next to Leon Hess' tenure as our owner. No it's under construction as we speak. I know a plumper who's working on the water park. It's exchanged ownership several times, but now owned by the people who own and operate Mall of America. Last I heard it was suppose to open mid to late 2016. Though that date has changed several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snell41 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 It's laughable that people would want this. Casinos take money from hard working people. That's the entire business model. Take people's money by presenting an illusion of potential wealth. It's the biggest scam on earth. So yeah.. let's put a casino within walking distance from drunken defeated/elated sports fans. Talk about licking their chops. They're already counting their money and there's no way the NJ "Gov't" doesn't pass this. It's a whole new level of misery waiting for Jets fans. Losing on a blocked FG to the friggin Pats then go and lose the rest of the paycheck before sitting in the traffic to go home and explain yourself. The suicide rate will triple in 6 months. YAAAAAY I kind of agree with this. I used to gamble pretty heavily back in the day. Then I heard the perfect parrallel that someone once told me. Would you go hunting in a thick fog and just fire your shotgun all over the place hoping to hit something? Because that's pretty much what gambling is. With that said alot of people do it, and a casino in that location would make a killing, especially in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREENBEAN Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I kind of agree with this. I used to gamble pretty heavily back in the day. Then I heard the perfect parrallel that someone once told me. Would you go hunting in a thick fog and just fire your shotgun all over the place hoping to hit something? Because that's pretty much what gambling is. With that said alot of people do it, and a casino in that location would make a killing, especially in the winter. Of course it would make a killing. Where would the money be coming from is the real aspect that no one wants to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munchmemory Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 No it's under construction as we speak. I know a plumper who's working on the water park. It's exchanged ownership several times, but now owned by the people who own and operate Mall of America. Last I heard it was suppose to open mid to late 2016. Though that date has changed several times. Okay. I stand corrected. IMO, I still believe the mall and restaurants will never see the light of day. Water park could work. Parents are always looking for places to take the kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morrissey Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Okay. I stand corrected. IMO, I still believe the mall and restaurants will never see the light of day. Water park could work. Parents are always looking for places to take the kids. in the paper last week http://ttp://www.northjersey.com/news/business/east-rutherford-looks-to-amend-american-dream-financial-agreement-1.1338641 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 For some clarification on this they just can not decide to do this TRENTON Gov. Chris Christie says he’s now in favor of allowing casino in North Jersey if some of the revenue is used to aid Atlantic City. The state constitution would have to be amended to allow casinos outside Atlantic City, where gaming has slumped and four casinos closed last year. For a public question to appear on the November ballot, lawmakers would have to act before an August deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Atlantic City will and have been fighting this along with the South Jersey politicians There is it bigger issue to be dealt with before any tpe of casino could ever be built in the Meadowlands - the NFL. it appears every year at this time, Governor Christie has attempted to put a racino in the Meadowlands. This appears to be common practice of the Christie ministration as well as the NJSEA every year. what they're not instruct in the general public, is that even if this goes to a vote in the New Jersey State Senate and then finally to the general public as a vote, is that only the federal government itself can give authorizations for a casino to be built outside of Atlantic City New Jersey. it recently allowed casinos to be built along the i-95 corridor in Pennsylvania due to the two casinos in the Poconos. the only reason that happened, would be close to existing Indian Reservation groups own the rights to Mount Airy lodge and Pocono Downs. New Jersey doesn't have that luxury, all of our casino gambling is done for Gaming Commission Atlantic City. That's why it would violate federal law. sorry, it's just not going to happen... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There is it bigger issue to be dealt with before any tpe of casino could ever be built in the Meadowlands - the NFL. it appears every year at this time, Governor Christie has attempted to put a racino in the Meadowlands. This appears to be common practice of the Christie ministration as well as the NJSEA every year. what they're not instruct in the general public, is that even if this goes to a vote in the New Jersey State Senate and then finally to the general public as a vote, is that only the federal government itself can give authorizations for a casino to be built outside of Atlantic City New Jersey. it recently allowed casinos to be built along the i-95 corridor in Pennsylvania due to the two casinos in the Poconos. the only reason that happened, would be close to existing Indian Reservation groups own the rights to Mount Airy lodge and Pocono Downs. New Jersey doesn't have that luxury, all of our casino gambling is done for Gaming Commission Atlantic City. That's why it would violate federal law. sorry, it's just not going to happen... There is a case is still pending regarding that. There's also a thing called Nullification. But we're not quite there...yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There is a case is still pending regarding that. There's also a thing called Nullification. But we're not quite there...yet. It's a bad idea. But adults should be allowed to make stupid decisions. The NHL will have a team in Vegas by the end of the decade. The NBA had their All Star game there, and MLB has had regular season games there. The NFL only releases injury reports due to gamblers. In truth if there is game fixing it's more likely to come to light with legal bookmakers looking at the data than with wiseguys. Better the pro and college sports entities get out in front and do it correctly than to keep this charade going. WIdespread sports gambling may be a bad idea but it's also inevitable. State governments spare Nevada want the money. And been to Dublin and London when EPL is going. There is a legal bookie on every corner. Nobody was dying in the streets. Now indoor ski slopes that go unoccupied for decades... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdetroit Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There will never be a pro sports franchise in Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lonelyhearts Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 What about recreational gamblers? lol. They're the ones paying for the degenerates' drinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaumerJet Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 There is a case is still pending regarding that. There's also a thing called Nullification. But we're not quite there...yet. The state has no loophole. New York, Pennsylvania and Connecticut's ability for additional gambling locations is based on the fact that Indian nations were the selling point to these casinos. New Jersey does not have that loophole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 The state has no loophole. New York, Pennsylvania and Connecticut's ability for additional gambling locations is based on the fact that Indian nations were the selling point to these casinos. New Jersey does not have that loophole. In know what the case is about. The constitutionality of the law is in place here. It's a lot deeper than 'Big Daddy in DC says we can't do that so it's over'. It's called Federalism. Go ahead and ask Colorado how much they care what DC has to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I know a plumper who's working on the water park. Never took you for the kinky type. SAR I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason423 Posted May 31, 2015 Share Posted May 31, 2015 Id love if they did this. Maybe I could actually go sneak out and play poker every now and then. NJ has missed out on so many opportunities by sticking with AC as their only casinos. AC has been dying for years and is shutting places down left and right. The flop of Revel should have proven that the location is just not right anymore for those that refused to admit that AC just isnt in a position to really draw people. I really think any type of casino in NNJ would be huge though the traffic around the Meadowlands would be ridiculous without some changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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