Rough night for Jamal Adams

[joerb31]

7 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

While your at it go back to the first game where he is seen telling the whole defense the play is a run to the right side, and it's actually a play fake right to a back side screen, and luckily for the Jets the WR makes a piss poor block as there was like 2 Jets to like 7 Titans ready to escort RB to end zone because the whole D bit on the run fake mostly because Adams said so.

They showed him saying that? Or was he just saying something? Safety checks can be as simple as saying the running back is off set

[joerb31]

7 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

While your at it go back to the first game where he is seen telling the whole defense the play is a run to the right side, and it's actually a play fake right to a back side screen, and luckily for the Jets the WR makes a piss poor block as there was like 2 Jets to like 7 Titans ready to escort RB to end zone because the whole D bit on the run fake mostly because Adams said so.

They showed him saying that? Or was he just saying something? Safety checks can be as simple as saying the running back is off set

[j4jets]

I think we can still blame Idzik for this. Had he drafted Clintons Dix Haha, we wouldn't have drafted Adams. 

As long as Mac doesn't get blamed, we are gold!

[Lupz27]

1 minute ago, joerb31 said:

They showed him saying that? Or was he just saying something? Safety checks can be as simple as saying the running back is off set

He is literally jumping up, and down pointing to the right signaling run right, and at the snap BOLTS towards his left and the whole d line follows suit crashing left.

[joerb31]

6 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

He is literally jumping up, and down pointing to the right signaling run right, and at the snap BOLTS towards his left and the whole d line follows suit crashing left.

Good catch. I didn't see that because I fast forwarded to the snap every play. I wouldn't be too worried about it for a few reasons 1. He diagnosed plays successfully and showed great instincts often. 2. He has made some damn good calls in training camp leading to sacks etc and 3. He is only a rookie who is having to make calls on offenses he has never seen before so it will take time

[RSJ]

I was encouraged by Adams play. He just needs to clean up his tackling.

[RoadFan]

18 minutes ago, Tony MaC said:

Its hilarious to watch fans the legitimately think they know better than professionals. You don't. I don't. Don't flatter yourselves.

 

 

Yeah... clearly Kyle Brady was better than Warren Sapp.

[Lupz27]

1 minute ago, RoadFan said:

Yeah... clearly Kyle Brady was better than Warren Sapp.

Just about any average fan could not have done a worse job then the Jets on drafting since 2013, if not earlier.

[Tony MaC]

4 minutes ago, Lupz27 said:

Just about any average fan could not have done a worse job then the Jets on drafting since 2013, if not earlier.

Yes they could have. In fact they would have. Don't be stupid.

[RoadFan]

24 minutes ago, Tony MaC said:

Its hilarious to watch fans the legitimately think they know better than professionals. You don't. I don't. Don't flatter yourselves.

 

 

Not only that...  What makes some kid that played high school football and majored in sports management any better at evaluating talent than me?  I mean, really?  Is it so difficult to imagine that somebody who has watched the sport for over 30 years might actually be better at it?

[Jet Nut]

16 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

Yeah... clearly Kyle Brady was better than Warren Sapp.

And only someone who doesnt understand thinks that we are dumb enough to bye into the idea that Brady was taken before Sapp because of talent.

Come on, youre better than this

[RoadFan]

8 minutes ago, Jet Nut said:

And only someone who doesnt understand thinks that we are dumb enough to bye into the idea that Brady was taken before Sapp because of talent.

Come on, youre better than this

Fair point there.  Off the field stuff.  That was just the most pressing example in recent Jets memory when the fans would have gotten it right.

I dont like being dismissed as just some fan with an inflated ego.  Maybe that is true... but I know that my youtube scouting would produce better results than the guys they have in Florham Park. 

I keep telling myself to offer my services for free as an absentee internship of sorts.  What's the worst they could do? Throw my reports in the trash?

[Fantasy Island]

2 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Its hilarious to watch fans the legitimately think they know better than professionals. You don't. I don't. Don't flatter yourselves.

 

 

Our FO are not professionals.  Yes this board could draft better than the hot garbage that has made picks for at least the last 10 years.

[DetroitRed]

Maye Impressed.

As for Adams, give him time. I went to Revis' first game and he got absolutely torched


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[Jet9]

This place is nuts. That is all.

[maury77]

Adams didn't have a particularly good game last night, but the fact that he isn't already playing like Ronnie Lott doesn't make him a bust. Give the kid some time. 

[dbatesman]

7 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Yes they could have. In fact they would have. Don't be stupid.

The guys in the mock draft thread outperform this dumbass franchise literally every single year.

[HawkeyeJet]

8 hours ago, RoadFan said:

Fair point there.  Off the field stuff.  That was just the most pressing example in recent Jets memory when the fans would have gotten it right.

I dont like being dismissed as just some fan with an inflated ego.  Maybe that is true... but I know that my youtube scouting would produce better results than the guys they have in Florham Park. 

I keep telling myself to offer my services for free as an absentee internship of sorts.  What's the worst they could do? Throw my reports in the trash?

I don't know if you are troll or really believe this, but wow.

 

[56mehl56]

9 hours ago, Jetsbb said:

Definitely worth 6th overall pick over the 2 franchise QB's Watson and Mahomes other teams valued enough to trade up for.

So after two PS games Mahomes and Watson are franchise Qb's - ever hear of Brett Ratliff. 

[56mehl56]

8 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Yes they could have. In fact they would have. Don't be stupid.

Yeah we'd be reading posts now about how Paxton Lynch is a bust. SOJF  fans always want players on another team and hate the players on the Jets its what they do.

[GKnight83]

We are calling Adams Sir Whiffsalot in my house now.  I counted 4 missed tackles but I counted one where he did not even bother to try and make the tackle.  Like a lot of DBs I have seen he may be more interested in hitting the other guy than he is in tackling him.  We will see.  This was only one bad preseason game.

But really what kind of player jumps at the line of scrimmage but does not lift his hands, seriously.

Leadership is not about yelling in practice.  Leadership is execution on the field!

 

[Bugg]

10 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Its hilarious to watch fans the legitimately think they know better than professionals. You don't. I don't. Don't flatter yourselves.

 

 

With all due respect, a few posters here with a good wifi connection and a few magazines you could buy at a newsstand hungover (still drunk even)the morning of the draft could have done as good or a perhaps a better job at drafting than Idzik and Maccagnan together. 

[Bugg]

1 hour ago, 56mehl56 said:

Yeah we'd be reading posts now about how Paxton Lynch is a bust. SOJF  fans always want players on another team and hate the players on the Jets its what they do.

Gotta actually draft a QB other than one the GM's buddy recommends. Some piece of scout work there. 

[56mehl56]

1 minute ago, Bugg said:

Gotta actually draft a QB other than one the GM's buddy recommends. Some piece of scout work there. 

That's an easy assumption to make , but do we know if its really the truth.

[Bugg]

Just now, 56mehl56 said:

That's an easy assumption to make , but do we know if its really the truth.

There is no other explanation. 

[detectivekimble]

13 hours ago, Tony MaC said:

Its hilarious to watch fans the legitimately think they know better than professionals. You don't. I don't. Don't flatter yourselves.

 

 

Please.  The NFL, like most sports leagues, is a good ole boy's club based on nepotism and favoritism.  You see the same retread coaches, coordinators and front office people over and over again.  Kiffin, Irsay, Idzik, Kraft, York, Heimerdinger, etc.  Half the people on this board could run a team better than Jim Irsay or Jim Dolan and draft better than Idzik or Bradway.

[thadude]

14 hours ago, Jet Nut said:

Yeah, the whole scouting world should have called you to find out what you thought about a player many thought was the best of the draft.  

And after 2 preseason games, less than a game of actual play, you should start patting yourself on that back now.  

Tim Williams had a sack and almost another sack last night

 

So glad we burned all these high draft picks on mediocre safeties

[thadude]

10 minutes ago, detectivekimble said:

Please.  The NFL, like most sports leagues, is a good ole boy's club based on nepotism and favoritism.  You see the same retread coaches, coordinators and front office people over and over again.  Kiffin, Irsay, Idzik, Kraft, York, Heimerdinger, etc.  Half the people on this board could run a team better than Jim Irsay or Jim Dolan and draft better than Idzik or Bradway.

Or Mike Macagnan

[thadude]

13 hours ago, j4jets said:

I think we can still blame Idzik for this. Had he drafted Clintons Dix Haha, we wouldn't have drafted Adams. 

As long as Mac doesn't get blamed, we are gold!

Haha

[Jet Nut]

9 minutes ago, thadude said:

Tim Williams had a sack and almost another sack last night

 

So glad we burned all these high draft picks on mediocre safeties

You take Williams off of the 2nd preseason game.  I'm content to let their careers play out, am happy with the player everyone had rated over Tim Williams.  But hey, you keep scouring the stat lines to give yourself material and calling both players mediocre.  I'll just keep in mind your post if improved still would come up way short of mediocre.  

[detectivekimble]

10 minutes ago, thadude said:

Or Mike Macagnan

Could be.  I'd bet the collective intelligence of this board is higher than the Jets' front office's.

[Jet Nut]

21 minutes ago, detectivekimble said:

Please.  The NFL, like most sports leagues, is a good ole boy's club based on nepotism and favoritism.  You see the same retread coaches, coordinators and front office people over and over again.  Kiffin, Irsay, Idzik, Kraft, York, Heimerdinger, etc.  Half the people on this board could run a team better than Jim Irsay or Jim Dolan and draft better than Idzik or Bradway.

Except we're not talking about a GM who is part of an old boy network.  Or a HC.  And yes you listed a few but Belichick was a retread, Parcells was, Cowher would have been one, Gruden would be one too.  Groh, Herm, Mangini, Rex and Bowles aren't.  

None of this means anyone on the board could run a better draft than whoever.  Fans here pimped Fitz, Irsay drafted Manning and Luck, has made the playoffs often and won a SB.  

[Tinstar]

15 hours ago, AFJF said:

Only one game, but too much of this.  I think I counted three missed tackles.

 

From that video, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the play of J Adams . He had outside containment and he set the edge perfectly . The problem was the guy who made the tackle didn't fill his gap the way he was supposed to allowing the RB a hole to the inside . Adams then had to jump back inside to try and make the tackle . The guy who eventually made the tackle was the person at fault, because he didn't fill his gap .

[jeremy2020]

7 minutes ago, Tinstar said:

From that video, there's absolutely nothing wrong with the play of J Adams . He had outside containment and he set the edge perfectly . The problem was the guy who made the tackle didn't fill his gap the way he was supposed to allowing the RB a hole to the inside . Adams then had to jump back inside to try and make the tackle . The guy who eventually made the tackle was the person at fault, because he didn't fill his gap .

It wasn't perfectly lined up for him so it's not his fault he whiffed on the tackle. Goodness, some of you would rip out your eyes before admitting a Jets players is at fault for his own play. 

I'm not concerned about Adams, but damn you went way out of your way to pretend he has no fault on that play.

[Matt39]

47 minutes ago, detectivekimble said:

Please.  The NFL, like most sports leagues, is a good ole boy's club based on nepotism and favoritism.  You see the same retread coaches, coordinators and front office people over and over again.  Kiffin, Irsay, Idzik, Kraft, York, Heimerdinger, etc.  Half the people on this board could run a team better than Jim Irsay or Jim Dolan and draft better than Idzik or Bradway.

This is all true. An in the box safety with a top 10 pick with the current state of the roster was beyond absurd. And then they took another one at 36.