CobraVerde Posted September 7, 2013 Author Share Posted September 7, 2013 you can never have enough Matt Simms...(obviously unless they put him in there and he sucks)...but hey at least Namath is on board! =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Viva la Simms!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 This is way to much on Matt Simms. He is a back-up folks... He's a backup who has done beautifully in the preseason time they've given him. Plus he has a stronger arm than the other QB's. Then there are the other factors: He's the son of a great QB, which means he has a certain genetic inheritance plus he's been getting the best instruction possible on how to play QB since he was five. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 He's a backup who has done beautifully in the preseason time they've given him. Plus he has a stronger arm than the other QB's. Then there are the other factors: He's the son of a great QB, which means he has a certain genetic inheritance plus he's been getting the best instruction possible on how to play QB since he was five. All of the "factors" did nopt translate in his college play...he had a less than stellar career in the SEC. Heck he started at Louisiville and left to go to some other school to end up at Tenessee losing the starting job. So again I say this is too much attention being paid to a back up... If Simms was not his daddy he probably would not be on the team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 All of the "factors" did nopt translate in his college play...he had a less than stellar career in the SEC. Heck he started at Louisiville and left to go to some other school to end up at Tenessee losing the starting job. So again I say this is too much attention being paid to a back up... If Simms was not his daddy he probably would not be on the team... Geno sucked in college and played in a weaker conference. There's attention being paid to him because people want to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Geno sucked in college and played in a weaker conference. There's attention being paid to him because people want to see what he can do. Let me get this straight... Matt Simms gets a scholarship from Louisville whch by the way was also a Big East School. Leaves Louisville where he was never the starting QB and probabaly never played.. Transfers to a non D-1 school, then transfers to Tenessee where he cannot keep the starting job. Ultimately he goes undrafted.. And Geno Smith Sucked in college..... Dude, you can't be serious......Really you can't be serious... At the end of the day, Jets fans should rally the starting QB Geno Smith.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CobraVerde Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share Posted September 9, 2013 Let me get this straight... Matt Simms gets a scholarship from Louisville whch by the way was also a Big East School. Leaves Louisville where he was never the starting QB and probabaly never played.. Transfers to a non D-1 school, then transfers to Tenessee where he cannot keep the starting job. Ultimately he goes undrafted.. And Geno Smith Sucked in college..... Dude, you can't be serious......Really you can't be serious... At the end of the day, Jets fans should rally the starting QB Geno Smith.... and Tom Brady was a 6th round pick...no youre right...people from low places can never succeed and the only people that are successful in the NFL are 1st round drafts... no one isnt rallying or supporting Geno. We just are being cautiosly optomistic whats wrong with that? We saw a guy that played well and a guy that didnt. The guy that didnt is getting his shot and we are waiting to see. That sounds more logical to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 All of the "factors" did nopt translate in his college play...he had a less than stellar career in the SEC. Heck he started at Louisiville and left to go to some other school to end up at Tenessee losing the starting job. So again I say this is too much attention being paid to a back up... If Simms was not his daddy he probably would not be on the team... Yes, and that's why he's kicking around as a free agent. There seems to be a belief among many football fans that a QB is as good, or nearly as good, at 22 years old as he's ever going to get-so we just judge his college career as the best indicator of how his pro career is likely to go. And in many cases that is what happens. But not always. It's odd. Most football fans are also baseball fans, they routinely see baseball "prospects" come up at 23 or 24, do poorly, then go back down to the minors for a year and come back to a quality career. Yet if a QB is not that great at 21 in college, the same fans decide he's "trash" and assume he can never amount to anything. Fact is, some QBs need to mature more than others. The reason I brought up Simms' pedigree is that if a QB has the background Simms does, there is a greater likelihood he will put it together and become a good NFL performer than the other UDFA's jumping around the league. And although his father's name might have gotten Simms into camp, it doesn't explain why he outperformed all the other QBs in camp. The idea that Simms might well have inherited talent and it took time to come together might well explain it. That, and the fact that he had the strongest arm in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted September 9, 2013 Share Posted September 9, 2013 Yes, and that's why he's kicking around as a free agent. There seems to be a belief among many football fans that a QB is as good, or nearly as good, at 22 years old as he's ever going to get-so we just judge his college career as the best indicator of how his pro career is likely to go. And in many cases that is what happens. But not always. It's odd. Most football fans are also baseball fans, they routinely see baseball "prospects" come up at 23 or 24, do poorly, then go back down to the minors for a year and come back to a quality career. Yet if a QB is not that great at 21 in college, the same fans decide he's "trash" and assume he can never amount to anything. Fact is, some QBs need to mature more than others. The reason I brought up Simms' pedigree is that if a QB has the background Simms does, there is a greater likelihood he will put it together and become a good NFL performer than the other UDFA's jumping around the league. And although his father's name might have gotten Simms into camp, it doesn't explain why he outperformed all the other QBs in camp. The idea that Simms might well have inherited talent and it took time to come together might well explain it. That, and the fact that he had the strongest arm in camp. One other thing-Simms kinda hit the negative exacta with signing up for Louisville and then Tennessee at almost the same exact times that Petrino and Kiffin screwed over both schools. He could be a test case for releasing players from commitments when the coach leaves for a better job. Also, he had a front row seat at the same time to seeing his brother Chris screw up a potential NFL career(as a backup) with stupid behavior. Hardly excuses Simms' dope fiending nor being a jerk, but it's an unusual situation and perhaps Simms has since done some serious growing up.Suspect we will see him in the lineup because that's simply the nature of injuries. And Vlad Dukie-ass is still employed the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LWC611 Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 and Tom Brady was a 6th round pick...no youre right...people from low places can never succeed and the only people that are successful in the NFL are 1st round drafts... no one isnt rallying or supporting Geno. We just are being cautiosly optomistic whats wrong with that? We saw a guy that played well and a guy that didnt. The guy that didnt is getting his shot and we are waiting to see. That sounds more logical to me.... The fact that you have the audacity to compare Matt Simms to Tom Brady is rediculous...Their coilege carreers really can not be compared. Putting that asside. The Jets must see something in him because they let McElroy go. That said, I still think this is too much being made over a back-up QB which in the best of all worlds you do not want to see on the field.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 Geno sucked in college and played in a weaker conference. There's attention being paid to him because people want to see what he can do. Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate 140 257 54.5 1779 6.9 6.1 8 8 116.7 988 1465 67.4 11662 8.0 8.7 98 21 153.5 Seem comparable. Especially the TD/INT ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 . ˄˄˄ See quote above ˄˄˄ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geno_Smith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 This was a team loss in every way. Geno starts next week. And that's as far as it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Wasn't Simms suppose to light up the Bengals's defense, especially in garbage time? 3/7 17 yards, 2 sack, is where he should be and not what sympathetic fans though he'll be after losing the starting job at Tenn in his final year and then going undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wasn't Simms suppose to light up the Bengals's defense, especially in garbage time? 3/7 17 yards, 2 sack, is where he should be and not what sympathetic fans though he'll be after losing the starting job at Tenn in his final year and then going undrafted. And the Bengals didnt gameplan for Simms. Imagine if they did lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wasn't Simms suppose to light up the Bengals's defense, especially in garbage time? 3/7 17 yards, 2 sack, is where he should be and not what sympathetic fans though he'll be after losing the starting job at Tenn in his final year and then going undrafted. But he looked so good against third stringers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shhwagah Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Matt Simms was only 5 TDs from staging the biggest comeback in NFL history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Mostro Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 They say Vlad has finally picked it up. What did he pick up? Chinese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 For a brief moment it looked like Ducasse was improving. That moment has been over for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flgreen Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 This was a team loss in every way. Geno starts next week. And that's as far as it goes. Yep And then comes Rob Ryan's Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Wasn't Simms suppose to light up the Bengals's defense, especially in garbage time? 3/7 17 yards, 2 sack, is where he should be and not what sympathetic fans though he'll be after losing the starting job at Tenn in his final year and then going undrafted. the fact that Matt Simms didn't throw any picks (or pick 6's) like Geno does every single week makes me like him more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Those 7 pass attempts have sold me. Start Matt Simms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We had given up 28 points before Geno threw a pick. That's a throwaway game for the offense, especially Geno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We had given up 28 points before Geno threw a pick. That's a throwaway game for the offense, especially Geno. How many points did they score before we got a first down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We had given up 28 points before Geno threw a pick. That's a throwaway game for the offense, especially Geno. when the D gives up a 10+ play drive to start the game the worst possible response is to go 3 and out. Football is a game of momentum and the offense never responded to the Bengals scoring. THe way the league is now, they want 100 points scored total, the Jets got into a shootout but couldn't shoot back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 No QB in the NFL on the Jets roster yesterday would have done any better. Geno Smith cant do it alone. We need WRs and a RB and yes we need to make a trade this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kay_gee Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 #FreeSimms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 when the D gives up a 10+ play drive to start the game the worst possible response is to go 3 and out. Football is a game of momentum and the offense never responded to the Bengals scoring. THe way the league is now, they want 100 points scored total, the Jets got into a shootout but couldn't shoot back. a 10+ play drive to start the game isnt a shootout...its an ass kicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 How many points did they score before we got a first down? With the amount of talent invested towards the defense vs the offense, the defensive letdown is way more concerning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 With the amount of talent invested towards the defense vs the offense, the defensive letdown is way more concerning. The secondary is bargain basement we have the best DL in the NFL that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 The whole team and coaching staff takes the blame- but of course if you have a agenda to pusue you continue your targeting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 a 10+ play drive to start the game isnt a shootout...its an ass kicking. It sucks no doubt but the offense needs to respond. The plays that worry me about Geno arent the multiple pick 6's it's the lack of awareness that an extra rusher is coming. they send 7, Geno has 6 blockers and doesn't get rid of it. The book is written on Geno right now until he can get the ball out quicker, under pressure, teams will just keep sending the REggie Nelsons of the world. When the other team sends a safety, someone's wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Yes, and that's why he's kicking around as a free agent. There seems to be a belief among many football fans that a QB is as good, or nearly as good, at 22 years old as he's ever going to get-so we just judge his college career as the best indicator of how his pro career is likely to go. And in many cases that is what happens. But not always. It's odd. Most football fans are also baseball fans, they routinely see baseball "prospects" come up at 23 or 24, do poorly, then go back down to the minors for a year and come back to a quality career. Yet if a QB is not that great at 21 in college, the same fans decide he's "trash" and assume he can never amount to anything. Fact is, some QBs need to mature more than others. The reason I brought up Simms' pedigree is that if a QB has the background Simms does, there is a greater likelihood he will put it together and become a good NFL performer than the other UDFA's jumping around the league. And although his father's name might have gotten Simms into camp, it doesn't explain why he outperformed all the other QBs in camp. But he didn't. You are basing this OPINION on what you saw in preseason games, games in which Simms primarily played against 3rd and 4th string competition while Smith and Sanchez played primarily against 1st and 2nd stringers. You have no idea what happened in practice every day and you have no idea what is going on in the classroom. You ever think that part of Simms problem is that when they quiz these guys on recognizing coverages, Simms' answers do not inspire confidence? You saw him play well in three preseason games against truck drivers and then made a pretty big leap in judgement to assume that he was outperforming everyone else in practice and the classroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It sucks no doubt but the offense needs to respond. The plays that worry me about Geno arent the multiple pick 6's it's the lack of awareness that an extra rusher is coming. they send 7, Geno has 6 blockers and doesn't get rid of it. The book is written on Geno right now until he can get the ball out quicker, under pressure, teams will just keep sending the REggie Nelsons of the world. When the other team sends a safety, someone's wide open. Will have to see if someone posts the all 22. He's not exactly throwing to good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 #FreeSimms Yeah, I want the Jets to cut him too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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