TuscanyTile2 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This is the guy I wanted the Jets to draft. Don't get me wrong though. After seeing Calvin Pryor's highlights (crushing hits), I was fine w/ the pick. I'm no expert anyway. But I will be following Brandin Cooks. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000371038/article/brandin-cook Rookie wide receiver Brandin Cooks lit up training camp on Tuesday with the session's finest play, taking a Brees screen pass the distance and showing off his speed and wiggle along the way.s-dazzles-at-new-orleans-saints-camp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Prefer a rebuilding team not take under 6' WR's that early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This is the guy I wanted. Bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 As for the video- he took a perfectly blocked screen pass the distance off of one cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 what, a guy getting a concussion, and the other guy dropping passes before re-aggrivating an old knee injury isn't good enough for you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJets Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 He's going to be good, no question. Probably Brees' favorite behind Graham, but how good would he have been with Geno is the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I wanted him too, but I am not sure Saunders is all that much behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerryK Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 As for the video- he took a perfectly blocked screen pass the distance off of one cut. He'll never get that in NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 All World Q.B, perfect block, these are unknown concepts in Jet Land. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This is the guy I wanted. Bad. Homo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I wanted him too, but I am not sure Saunders is all that much behind him It's not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well, I guess you can watch his career and lament the Jets not drafting him every day, but there's no way he would be able to accomplish in the Meadowlands with Geno (or Vick for that matter) what he'll be able to do with Brees in a dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Well, I guess you can watch his career and lament the Jets not drafting him every day, but there's no way he would be able to accomplish in the Meadowlands with Geno (or Vick for that matter) what he'll be able to do with Brees in a dome. So the argument against drafting him is airtight then, is what you're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So the argument against drafting him is airtight then, is what you're saying?This whole offense and scoring points thing is really overrated. We should punt on 2nd down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 So the argument against drafting him is airtight then, is what you're saying? I support the team taking the first safety off the board instead of the fourth WR; a tiny, speedy WR at that. The pass defense needed nearly as much help as the passing offense. We'll see how the careers of Cooks and Pryor go, with an eye on Jalen Saunders, too. Would I've been excited if they took Cooks? Yeah, I would've. I think it would've been a bold pick. The boom/bust potential is significantly greater with Cooks. I don't think that's the kind of pick you're ever going to see Idzik make in the first round, though. I'm sure he wants star potential, but I have a feeling that a high floor is more important to him than a high ceiling that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If we were going to go receiver that early it had to be Benjamin. I would have probably taken the kid Seattle took(Richardson) over Cooks too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I support the team taking the first safety off the board instead of the fourth WR; a tiny, speedy WR at that. The pass defense needed nearly as much help as the passing offense. We'll see how the careers of Cooks and Pryor go, with an eye on Jalen Saunders, too. Would I've been excited if they took Cooks? Yeah, I would've. I think it would've been a bold pick. The boom/bust potential is significantly greater with Cooks. I don't think that's the kind of pick you're ever going to see Idzik make in the first round, though. I'm sure he wants star potential, but I have a feeling that a high floor is more important to him than a high ceiling that high. I agree with this, too. It's unfair to compare a WR going into the Saints system to any other pick made this year, really. Brees and Payton will make pretty much everyone a star (Kenny Stills, for instance). I was disappointed they passed on playmakers in the first the last two years, but I'm hoping Idzik is waiting to see what kind of QB play he gets before investing heavily in receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If we were going to go receiver that early it had to be Benjamin. I would have probably taken the kid Seattle took(Richardson) over Cooks too. Cordarelle Patterson is supposedly killing people in practices. Him v Milliner in the draft could hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 it's hard to imagine a lineup with Kerley and Cooks on the field at the same time follow up question how would Kerley look on the Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faba Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 We all know what a player does in a couple days of training camp makes them an all pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Oh cool, we're already at the part of the season where we whine about the guys we didn't draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If we were going to go receiver that early it had to be Benjamin. I would have probably taken the kid Seattle took(Richardson) over Cooks too. Kelvin Benjamin is a stiff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Oh cool, we're already at the part of the season where we whine about the guys we didn't draft. Nobody's whining. I started a whole thread before the draft about how much I liked Pryor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This whole offense and scoring points thing is really overrated. We should punt on 2nd down. Our turnover differential would be off the charts. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Nobody's whining. I started a whole thread before the draft about how much I liked Pryor. How do you know I was taking about you? Also, you whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I agree with this, too. It's unfair to compare a WR going into the Saints system to any other pick made this year, really. Brees and Payton will make pretty much everyone a star (Kenny Stills, for instance). I was disappointed they passed on playmakers in the first the last two years, but I'm hoping Idzik is waiting to see what kind of QB play he gets before investing heavily in receivers. It didn't work so well for Robert Meachem. I liked Cooks. Unlike Matt I would have preferred him to a boom or bust guy like Benjamin. Even though my point about Meachem stands, obviously Cooks has a better opportunity for success with the Saints than the Jets. The draft being so deep at WR plays into the value more than system they are joining. The Jets drafted 3 WRs in a deep draft. If none pan out then it was a failure, but if one does and Pryor and Cooks are both highly rated at their positions, the Jets are probably considerably better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Also, you whine. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Cordarelle Patterson is supposedly killing people in practices. Him v Milliner in the draft could hurt. I liked him and Justin Hunter a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It didn't work so well for Robert Meachem. I liked Cooks. Unlike Matt I would have preferred him to a boom or bust guy like Benjamin. Even though my point about Meachem stands, obviously Cooks has a better opportunity for success with the Saints than the Jets. The draft being so deep at WR plays into the value more than system they are joining. The Jets drafted 3 WRs in a deep draft. If none pan out then it was a failure, but if one does and Pryor and Cooks are both highly rated at their positions, the Jets are probably considerably better off. I think Cooks is fairly boom or bust too. Obviously his situation is way preferable to the Jets...but how many 5'10 and under receivers in this league are worth being taken that high? You need to be super freaky athletically....not sure if Cooks is quite that. Santana Moss and Desean Jackson are the two that come to mind...but guys who can box out in the redzone are what this team needed imo and are the true #1 guys in the league. Decker should help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Kelvin Benjamin is a stiff. Based on what- your opinion? He's starting for the Panthers as their #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gastineau Lives Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Based on what- your opinion? He's starting for the Panthers as their #1. Matt, what else do we have here but our opinions? That receiving corp is one of the worst non-Jet lineups in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I think Cooks is fairly boom or bust too. Obviously his situation is way preferable to the Jets...but how many 5'10 and under receivers in this league are worth being taken that high? You need to be super freaky athletically....not sure if Cooks is quite that. Santana Moss and Desean Jackson are the two that come to mind...but guys who can box out in the redzone are what this team needed imo and are the true #1 guys in the league. Decker should help. Yeah, another reason to avoid picking him that high. I don't think Mornhinweg is really looking for big box out guys though, I think he'd prefer a smaller speedster. I am no draft expert, I just know that I *liked* Cooks better than I liked Benjamin. I think Cooks combine showed he may be that freak athletically. Plus, that is basically my size, so maybe I am biased! Based on what- your opinion? He's starting for the Panthers as their #1. Aren't the Panthers the only team with worse WR than the Jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Matt, what else do we have here but our opinions? That receiving corp is one of the worst non-Jet lineups in recent memory. Agreed. It's all opinion, but Benjamin is a pretty versatile guy for a big man...he'll be lining up in the slot(Jimmy Graham, on the outside etc. His catch radius is enormous.. The speed at this level is so crazy it requires you to be able to catch while covered- mismatch wise Benjamin v Cooks..Benjamin would have been a better player for us. The Saints already have Jimmy Graham and needed to replace Sproles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Cooks is probably going to to be closer to a Darren Sproles replacement than some slot WR extraordinaire. Their only decent pass-catching RB they have at the moment is Pierre Thomas, and while he can handle that duty fairly well, he's no Sproles. Cooks fits their system and will do well with Brees, but it doesn't mean us passing on him was a dumb decision. I'd rather have an impact safety than a Dexter McCluster type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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