How do you land Harbaugh?

[Jetster]

You give him the keys to the castle!

That is precisely where Woody fails in leadership. The best run of this organization came under Parcells.

Harbaugh is way more in tune with the college athlete than Parcells ever was.

Thinking of the Jets FUTURE give me any other coach that you would trust more than Harbaugh to decide what direction to go with the QB? And more importantly follow up that decision & coach him up!

First thing Harbaugh would do besides decide what direction to go with the QB would be to fix our Oline.

I personally think Harbaugh would eschew taking a QB at the top of the draft & take the meanest nastiest college Olineman available. Dallas has proven that the Oline matters.

Then because of his knowledge of him he would sign Iupati in free agency. Just those 2 moves alone are the start for fixing the trenches (Jets already have the trenches filled on the defensive side of the ball).

So, with probably 40 million to work with he'll set out to try & fix this team. I think he would take a QB in the 2nd to groom like they did with Kap.

We would also keep Harvin if he remains a good soldier. I drool to think of the ways Harbaugh would find to use Percy.

The most interesting hire would be his DC? Say what you will about the Jets defense but the real issues still remain on the opposite side of the ball. Get someone in here that doesn't all out blitz on every 3rd down & we might get off of the field.

The biggest ? Marks are our health in the secondary. But, I know this is a big "but" Milliner & McDougle come back strong, Pryor gets a full camp at SS, and we find a guy to take Landrys place we might be able to play good enough to compete if our offense can get out of its own way.

Harbaugh would instill a confidence not based on false praise but on actual competency. The guy can coach! The guy can coach "young players". The guy can put together an offensive game plan whether it be pounding you with the run game and then using playaction properly. He knows how to manage a game & use his TOs, manage the clock, manipulate the refs, when & how to use challenges.

Getting Harbaugh would be the hugest coup since getting Parcells.

The Jets would again be a respected organization, run by a guy that's a winner everywhere he goes, a disciplinarian that will sit anyone who doesn't want to conform.

Like I've said before, you might not like his antics, but if he's on your side that's all that matters.

Coaches contracts don't affect the salary cap. Woody is a billionaire! What the f*ck do I care what he has to pay to get this guy here.

Finally, Harbaugh is an egomaniac determined to prove himself, what better way than to walk into the biggest fishbowl in the world NY City, and take a downtrodden team like the Jets & turn them into contenders. Winning garners respect. This is the only coach out there that has the resume to walk in here & get the attention of every player in that lockeroom!

Players would know that Woody means business, no more favorites, no more accepting failure to "Do your Job!"

It would be like I died & went to heaven if they announced this guy as the next NY Jets headcoach.

[AFJF]

I just keep hearing how much his wife wants to stay in the Bay area.  If that's the case, he goes to Oakland.

[faba]

Obviously will be in high demand -I would try maybe David Shaw of Stanford as a possibility to bring in.

[T0mShane]

I just keep hearing how much his wife wants to stay in the Bay area. If that's the case, he goes to Oakland.

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

[AFJF]

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

 

Both teams have so much cap space that I think it would be a wash.  You're right about the QB though, he knows they have a young one who has looked promising from everything I've read.  I don't think ownership would be an issue either.  As much as people dislike Woody, it's always been for hiring the wrong people.  If Harbaugh comes on board and is given full control then that problem goes away. Woody is an owner who has always spent money when asked, and I've never heard a single thing about him being a meddler.  He likes being the boss, but I think he knows his limitations.  Even when he gives a rare quote about a player, he's usually repeating what we've already heard Rex and/or the GM say.

 

The Davis family on the other hand, they fire HC's every twenty minutes.

 

Either way, I think wifey wins out and he goes to Oak.

[TuscanyTile2]

I think we've got a real chance to get Harbaugh (though Oakland and the Michigan Wolverines are both going to be serious competition).  I think his wife could fall in love w/ NY easily if Woody is willing to give Harbaugh the money and control he wants.  NY is pretty great if money isn't an issue (which it wouldn't be for them).

 

Harbaugh is still pretty young btw so this could really set us up for a good number of years if things work out.  I'd be all for this move (giving him total control) btw. I think a lot depends on Woody's opinion of Idzik (as I'd be shocked at this point if Rex were not fired).  If Woody wants to keep Idzik then Harbaugh probably decides he can find a better situation for himself.

[slats]

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

Woody is definitely a big impediment, but I'm not sure how much worse he is -if any- than Al Davis' developmentally challenged son.

[faba]

Oakland has been a circus more than us- hard to believe right- not so sure that is so attractive to anyone

[sourceworx]

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

 

 

I don't know about that. I think it'd be hard to keep a straight face every day while this guy gave you orders:

 

[Jetster]

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

Both owners, Woody & that Davis guy are strange cats, but I actually see Woody as less of a meddler. Oaklands defense gave up 48 points in the 1st half to St.Louis & a 3rd string QB.

Jets have way more in place on defense to work with so whoever he picks as a DC would be able to get his footing quickly.

The Jets have Decker, Harvin, Kerley, Amaro, Ivory, and a bad QB & Oline.

Harbaugh could make that group work. Evans is a complete question mark and Cumby sucks but Harbaugh would find a blocking TE and would know how to utilize Bohanon who now has more experience.

I agree that the odds are not in our favor of landing Harbaugh but if Woody is not looking into it he's a bigger buffoon then I thought.

Hiring a new GM & keeping the coach was just asinine to begin with.

[slats]

Both teams have so much cap space that I think it would be a wash.  You're right about the QB though, he knows they have a young one who has looked promising from everything I've read.  I don't think ownership would be an issue either.  As much as people dislike Woody, it's always been for hiring the wrong people.  If Harbaugh comes on board and is given full control then that problem goes away. Woody is an owner who has always spent money when asked, and I've never heard a single thing about him being a meddler.  He likes being the boss, but I think he knows his limitations.  Even when he gives a rare quote about a player, he's usually repeating what we've already heard Rex and/or the GM say.

 

The Davis family on the other hand, they fire HC's every twenty minutes.

 

Either way, I think wifey wins out and he goes to Oak.

First, never tell Shane that he's right about anything. That only leads to trouble.

Second, I think the QB could work either way in the hiring process. If Harbaugh likes Carr, then it's a huge plus. But if he doesn't like him for any reason, then it's a pretty big negative. Especially sitting with the first pick in the draft, and being told you can't use it on a QB you like better.

[FTL Jet Fan]

I would love to see Woody go after Harbaugh, but I dont think there is any chance he is coming to NY. I think Idzik will be retained and will be able to hire his coach. I think Harbaugh is exactly what the Jets need, but I dont see it happening.

[LSJF]

Stacks of money to the sky up above.

[jgb]

if harbaugh is interested you give him anything he wants and more. if he uses us to jack up his other offers so be it.

[JetsFanInDenver]

So what is this desire to Harbaugh based on ? What do we want ? A Super Bowl ?

 

So how is a HC that has never won a Super Bowl with a much superior talent and a much superior QB suddenly expected to deliver that for the JETS.

[PFSIKH]

So what is this desire to Harbaugh based on ? What do we want ? A Super Bowl ?

 

So how is a HC that has never won a Super Bowl with a much superior talent and a much superior QB suddenly expected to deliver that for the JETS.

 

Belichick did not have a title as a HC or a great QB.

 

Same for Carroll or John Harbaugh.

 

While he is abrasive, he took a crappy college program and turned it around.  He took am underachieving NFL team and came just short of the title.

 

If the 49ers are set on moving on, why not trade for him?  Who else are you going to get with his pedigree?  Especially, when you have some pieces in place.

[Jetster]

So what is this desire to Harbaugh based on ? What do we want ? A Super Bowl ?

 

So how is a HC that has never won a Super Bowl with a much superior talent and a much superior QB suddenly expected to deliver that for the JETS.

Please stop!

Belichick hasn't won a Super Bowl in 10 years but you wouldn't want to hire him?

Winning a Super Bowl is really hard, you need everything to break your way! 49ers have never EMBARRASSED themselves in the playoffs. So you want to diminish his abilities as a coach because he came up short when the best CB in all of football knocked down TD catch that would have put them in the Super Bowl & they were playing on the road in a stadium where the home team had made chopped liver out of all comers?

OKaaaaay.

[jgb]

It's hard to win a superbowl. competent coaches with a record of success and ability to design a system to fit your personnel (harbaugh has found success with both alex smith and kaepernick, totally different style qb's) will increase those chances. Only one team wins every year.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Please stop!

Belichick hasn't won a Super Bowl in 10 years but you wouldn't want to hire him?

Winning a Super Bowl is really hard, you need everything to break your way! 49ers have never EMBARRASSED themselves in the playoffs. So you want to diminish his abilities as a coach because he came up short when the best CB in all of football knocked down TD catch that would have put them in the Super Bowl & they were playing on the road in a stadium where the home team had made chopped liver out of all comers?

OKaaaaay.

 

 

Would you accept these very same justifications if the exact same happened to him as a HC of the New York JETS and he fell short of winning a Super Bowl ?

 

I am not sure most of the fan base would.

[JetsFanInDenver]

Belichick did not have a title as a HC or a great QB.

 

Same for Carroll or John Harbaugh.

 

While he is abrasive, he took a crappy college program and turned it around.  He took am underachieving NFL team and came just short of the title.

 

If the 49ers are set on moving on, why not trade for him?  Who else are you going to get with his pedigree?  Especially, when you have some pieces in place.

 

No one is undermining what Harbaugh has done so far. But he has still not got what the JETS fans really really want and that too with a lot superior setup with lost less media pressure compare to NY.

 

Belichick got lucky. He lucked out with a great QB and some awesome Camcorder technology.

[PFSIKH]

No one is undermining what Harbaugh has done so far. But he has still not got what the JETS fans really really want and that too with a lot superior setup with lost less media pressure compare to NY.

 

Belichick got lucky. He lucked out with a great QB and some awesome Camcorder technology.

 

What?

 

Who does?

 

While there might be coaches out there with a Superbowl resume, most are walking around with canes.

 

Bill Par$ells is not walking through that door.  Jimmie Johnson is not walking throught that door.  Good Luck getting the chin.

 

You have a chance to trade for a prooven HC.  Or you can go get the NFL assistant/hot college commodity and see how that works out.

[boxman]

With the right bait.

[FidelioJet]

Very well said. My answer is this: $$$$$

Make him the highest paid coach in pro football. 9 million a year should do it.

yup...it's not a salary cap issue.  Give him full control and pay him whatever it takes.

 

Woody has to dig deep into his pockets and make this happen.  He owes that to Jet fans.

[BroadwayJets]

Another overlooked factor, if Coughlin leaves the giants who in their right mind would choose the jets over the giants?

[predator_05]

I dream of seeing Harbaugh coaching the Jets but i don't see any reason for him to choose NY over Oakland:

 

His family is already settled in the Bay Area. Moving is a pain in the ass, even for the rich. This one factor alone could counter any amount of extra $$ the Jets offer him.

 

He already has a good, young, conventional QB to work with; which makes the job a heck of a lot more appealing compared to the Jets, where he would have to find a QB. A team with an established QB progresses faster.

 

He wouldn't have to deal with a decrepit owner or a success starved fan-base. The leather wearing, S&M bondage loving freakshow Raiders 'fans' would be happy with a few wins. If he gives them more than that, they've got his back for life.

 

Not as many big egos in the locker room. No Harvins, Sheldons, CJ2.0ypc's, etc. Easier to enforce discipline. Rex's 'play like a Jet' philosophy has spawned a locker room full of inflated egos that think they are hot sh*t.

 

Nice weather, hotter cheerleaders.

[artemusclyde]

Oakland is a better job, too. Lots of cap space already, which can be added to at no cost by cutting Schaub, Tuck, Donald Penn and Lamarr Woodley. They have the young QB, a lot of young speed on defense, and some talent at WR. Much better than working for Woody Johnson, imo.

 

No it's not. The Raiders have the worst roster in the league. 

[Larz]

move the team to the bay area and make the team colors maize and blue

[jmat321]

Full control and a top 3 salary are the only way we have a shot, but I just don't see it.  Honestly, I don't think he goes to the Jets or the Raiders.  For some reason I see him with the Giants, the Bears (even though his stay as a player ended badly) or some other darkhorse team that surprises everyone by firing their head coach.  I just see him wanting to win one fast, just as an FU to the 49ers.

[Jetster]

Another overlooked factor, if Coughlin leaves the giants who in their right mind would choose the jets over the giants?

You are right about that. Harbaugh could end up in NY with big Blue...ouch that would hurt

[predator_05]

 

RJ Bell @RJinVegas  ·  29m 29 minutes ago

Sportsbook.ag tells me action kept pouring in on Jim Harbaugh as next Michigan coach no matter how low they made the odds.

 

RJ Bell @RJinVegas  ·  27m 27 minutes ago

Sportsbook.ag afraid "someone might know more about his coaching situation than us" so Harbaugh as next Michigan coach betting was suspended

 

 

 

[BurnleyJet]

I think it would be good just to have a H.C who understand it's a Quaterback driven league, instead of some Bozo that runs for 277 yards on a zillion carrys, and throws the ball like a dozen times. It's not 1928.

[Patriot Killa]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000439543/article/jim-harbaugh-wants-to-remain-nfl-coach

Well that's a step.. he stated he would like to remain in the NFL.

But due to the area and his liking of Derrick Carr... doubt he comes to this circus.

[vincenzo69]

Woody is definitely a big impediment, but I'm not sure how much worse he is -if any- than Al Davis' developmentally challenged son.

Woody's IQ = Al Davis Jr IQ

[vincenzo69]

No it's not. The Raiders have the worst roster in the league. 

No, we do.