Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I didn't think that most of the top 5 WRs coming out last year would do as well as they did...neither did Idzy I guess... I thought that Watkins had this highest ceiling of the WR's but Matthews had the highest floor. It ended up being that Beckham had both. One thing I love about football are the rookies. Its good to see guys come in the league and make a statement like that. A guy who was not necessarily a surprise but I didnt think would be better than Zack Martin was Joel Bitonio. Dude was WAY better than Martin. Cleveland dropped the ball on Manziel but definitely got it right with Bitonio. I should have known he was going to be the best lineman. He looks like he has shoulder pads on without the damn shoulder pads. lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Right about Bortles suking, manziel suking wrong about Zach Martin You thought Bortles sucked? I thought he had a pretty good rookie season. I mean, it wasnt "all world" but dude has no protection on that oline. Luke Joeckel is a f'ing bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Not as long as many would think. I think this years draft will ultimately pan out. Guys who I think will be players in this league. 1. Pryor, 2. IK, 3. McDougle, 4. Evans. I still think he should have drafted Matthews in the 2nd and Phillip Gaines in the 3rd. I was shocked when Gaines was still on the board when McDougle was drafted, and Gaines had a damn Solid year for KC. I don't disagree, I am not a huge Idzik hater, he blew the 4th round completely though. Evans I hav e zero hope for. Didn't like the pick at the time at all. I look at Pryor, amaro, possibly mcdougle, I think dozier is going to be a decent pick. The best thing to ever happen to Pryor if you ask me is Rex being gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 You thought Bortles sucked? I thought he had a pretty good rookie season. I mean, it wasnt "all world" but dude has no protection on that oline. Luke Joeckel is a f'ing bust. Bortles will be out of the league in 4 yrs, not impressed at all..imo I would take Cardale Jones over Bortles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I thought that Watkins had this highest ceiling of the WR's but Matthews had the highest floor. It ended up being that Beckham had both. One thing I love about football are the rookies. Its good to see guys come in the league and make a statement like that. A guy who was not necessarily a surprise but I didnt think would be better than Zack Martin was Joel Bitonio. Dude was WAY better than Martin. Cleveland dropped the ball on Manziel but definitely got it right with Bitonio. I should have known he was going to be the best lineman. He looks like he has shoulder pads on without the damn shoulder pads. lol. Watkins disappointed in nickel city, Beckham is the gold standard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I didn't whiff on any WRs, as i honestly thought most looked the part, but I was little harder a couple of them. I wasn't convinced Benjamin was going to be as dynamic as he was at FSU (too stiff, and cement hands), but he's surprised me with how he's compensated with his physicality. Still had a ton of drops, but he earned some slack. I was also hard on Moncrief for basically being a pussy and not fighting for the ball, and he's looked a little better than i thought, but the lack of "Dawg" was highlighted by Luck's INT over the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pcola Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The two that were much better than I though were Benjamin and Bridgewater. The two that were much worse were Bortles and Pryor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Very impressed by Calvin Pryor... made a lot of solid tackles and has a ball hawk mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I don't disagree, I am not a huge Idzik hater, he blew the 4th round completely though. Evans I hav e zero hope for. Didn't like the pick at the time at all. I look at Pryor, amaro, possibly mcdougle, I think dozier is going to be a decent pick. The best thing to ever happen to Pryor if you ask me is Rex being gone. I even forgot about Dozier and Amaro. Truth be told, I think Milliner will be serviceable as well. I think when its all said and done Idzik would have shown that his draft classes weren't as bad as they tend to look today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 Watkins disappointed in nickel city, Beckham is the gold standard I believe you. If Beckham ever had any haters he certainly shut it down quickly. Dude is exciting to watch, and I NEVER liked Giants football outside of Tiki Barber and Brandon Jacobs in his short prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradis Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Very impressed by Calvin Pryor... made a lot of solid tackles and has a ball hawk mentality. Really? Sh*t, maybe I'd impress you out there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I liked Landry over Beckham Me too. Thought Beckham was more versatile in that he can help in thr return game too but Landry was the better receiver. Interesting enough it was just the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Really? Sh*t, maybe I'd impress you out there too. Rex really coached him up too. He wasn't born like that. Props to Rex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bridgewater was better than I ever thought he'd be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was dead wrong on Pryor, still time for him to progress. I'd still take him over Ha-Ha if we're talking safeties specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villain The Foe Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was dead wrong on Pryor, still time for him to progress. I'd still take him over Ha-Ha if we're talking safeties specifically. Pryor had a lot of responsibility that he just wasnt used to in that scheme. I really hope we change to a 4-3 defense. I think he'll flourish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afosomf Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was dead wrong on Pryor, still time for him to progress. I'd still take him over Ha-Ha if we're talking safeties specifically. Ha Ha you would be so wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hael Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bridgewater, definitely. I still think he's going to bust, but it will be more the Alex Smith type of bust in SF then the Geno Smith type of bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
predator_05 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The CB i was hoping we would draft: Dennard. Barely saw the field. On the other hand, Jason verrett looked terrific for the chargers. Gilbert was also disappointing, I thought he would be really good. That guy has issues both on and off the field. Cleveland sure knows to pick em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugg Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Manziel. Saw a very impressive college career, and thought his size wouldn't be a big deal.But really shocking that with some much at stake he is still dumber than dirt. He did EVERYTHING wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet9 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Bridgewater, definitely. I still think he's going to bust, but it will be more the Alex Smith type of bust in SF then the Geno Smith type of bust. Ditto. I was wrong about him but agree with your assessment. I was wrong about Beckham Jr. He's a beast. Was wrong about Bottles. He stinks. Was wrong about Watkins. Terrible trade. Was spot f*****g on about Manzeil. I knew he was crap and a celebrity type. Was right about David Carr. He's the best QB in that draft IMO. Was wrong on Pryor. Maybe new coach can do something with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetlife33 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Manziel. Saw a very impressive college career, and thought his size wouldn't be a big deal.But really shocking that with some much at stake he is still dumber than dirt. He did EVERYTHING wrong. I thought the same as you, I still think there's time for him to come around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I remember writing an article for this site that was basically a Mike Williams blowjay in print form. http://www.jetnation.com/2005/05/05/jetnation-nfl-draft-report-card/ Detroit Lions: A When you add WR Mike Williams to a receiving corps of Roy Williams and Charles Rogers, you are building perhaps the second best receiving trio in the league after the Raiders. The only shame is that we’ll have to watch Williams suffer with Joey Harrington throwing the ball at him, and not to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Troll Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 http://www.jetnation.com/2005/05/05/jetnation-nfl-draft-report-card/ Did you write that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Did you write that? Nope. Just pointing out you weren't the only one. Also I love the "WR trio" comment in that article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I don't pretend to know anything about college prospects, but I was wrong as hell to get excited about any of Idzik's picks. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Nope. Just pointing out you weren't the only one. Also I love the "WR trio" comment in that article. Oh my, thank you for posting that, I just read the Jets write-up... "Bradway pulls it off again" WTF!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Mike Evans, like his height but I didn't think he was going to be good. Whiffed on that one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I thought Amaro would be better as a rook When round 4 started I said I'd be thrilled if we got Martavis Bryant and Dozier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Ha Ha you would be so wrong On a serious note, who the hell names their child Ha Ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peekskill68 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Mike Evans. Carried my Fantasy Team 2h of the year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was right about my guy Jordan Matthews. I loved him so much. And Jeremy Hill. I was wrong about nothing, because I am a Goddamn genius. Easy now.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetBlue Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 On a serious note, who the hell names their child Ha Ha. What, you prefer Ho Ho? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bitonti Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 The CB i was hoping we would draft: Dennard. Barely saw the field. in fairness to you the Bengals had other CB options. The Jets presumably would have had to play Dennard tons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section314 Posted January 13, 2015 Share Posted January 13, 2015 CJ Mosely. Thought he'd be good, but this good? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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