32EBoozer Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 No way. He's not even in the top 20 conversation anymore. Maybe not even in the top 30You need to remember Revis Island shuts down 1/2 the field and Bowles will be rolling a lot of coverage to Cro's side. That being said, if some of these young guys (Walls, McDougle, Milliner) can be comp. to him, I say take Cro's $8 mil and put it toward Mo's extension next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obrien2Toon Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 No way. He's not even in the top 20 conversation anymore. Maybe not even in the top 30.Should've spent the money we wasted on Cro on Vereen. Then we'd have a back that could actually make someone miss and Walls could make the team. And have money left over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 How is Cro not in the top 20 corners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 Who said he sucked? My understanding was that he looked good before he was hurt. I thought he was hurt before he looked good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Harper Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 I thought he was hurt before he looked good? So you are saying that he never had an opportunity to suck? So why did you say he sucked then? Oh, because you're a SOJF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 21, 2015 Share Posted May 21, 2015 So you are saying that he never had an opportunity to suck? So why did you say he sucked then? Oh, because you're a SOJF. i don't even like the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 I fully expect either him or Milliner to blow out an ACL?... FIXED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergenjets Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Remember, shoulder injuries lead to knee injuries No they don't. They cause concussions. Sheesh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetNation Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 By Glenn Naughton With New York Jets OTA’s in full swing, one development that should bring a smile to the faces of many Jets fans involves last season’s third-round draft pick, cornerback Dexter McDougle out of Maryland. Having suffered a torn ACL in his left knee in the early going of a strong pre-season rookie campaign, McDougle was running at full speed during today’s workouts according to Dennis Waszak of the AP. While it will be considerably tougher for McDougle to get on the field in 2015 as the Jets added cornerbacks Darrelle Revis, Antonio Cromartie and Buster Skrine in free agency, adding healthy young corners is never a bad thing. View the full article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EM31 Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Great to hear. Our secondary went from one of the worst to one of the best overnight. A kid like Mcdougle was on pace to make an impact last year (at least IMO) and having him back and full strength really gives our secondary a ton of depth. How was he "on pace" in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Harris Posted May 22, 2015 Share Posted May 22, 2015 Having never seen him play a snap I'm ready to declare that I think Mcdougle may end up being better than Milliner- They're a pair of glass slippers tho at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 With Revis, Cro & Skreen, McDougle & Milliner coming back strong could give us the strongest nickel & dime secondaries in the NFL. Bowles loves to play CBs on 3rd downs. Could be a wild year & hopefully a lot of picks going the other way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsFanatic Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 Last year he sucked. This year he's a second string beast. Love you guys. He didn't suck last year, he was hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 With Revis, Cro & Skreen, McDougle & Milliner coming back strong could give us the strongest nickel & dime secondaries in the NFL. Bowles loves to play CBs on 3rd downs. Could be a wild year & hopefully a lot of picks going the other way. Do other coaches prefer to bench their CB's on 3rd down? Interesting concept... Bowles is a Genius! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 All I remember from this kid during camp last year was a preseason game where he played the route, played the angle and made a break on the ball. I was so happy to see that after so many years of kyle wilson thinking chasing a guy, playing in a trail position was covering a guy very happy to see he is not only healthy, but keeping up with a guy who is essentially has track star speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HessStation Posted May 23, 2015 Share Posted May 23, 2015 He didn't suck last year, he was hurt. Let's be honest, we were probably at around 5% fan approval rate with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Do other coaches prefer to bench their CB's on 3rd down? Interesting concept... Bowles is a Genius! LMAOROTF Derp Not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 I heard that when you hurt your leg you basically die. They shoot horses because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 They shoot horses because of it. Which, if you think about it, is crazy, because they still have three others. McDougle only had two to start. Dude should have been sent to the glue-factory last training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupz27 Posted May 24, 2015 Share Posted May 24, 2015 Pump the breaks just a little, huh? I think its more of a Cro knock then a true ringing endorsement of the other 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 It's encouraging to see McDougle already running with someone as fast as Hakim. It's funny how people point to players as busts before they have even have had a chance. Dougs & Milliner don't have to be hurried with Revis/Cro/Skrine here. Plus...they don't have to try & stop the opposing teams 1 & 2 wide receivers. Either one could become an absolute STUD in nickel & dime defenses. Bowles has even used 6 DBS before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor99 Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Let's be honest, we were probably at around 5% fan approval rate with that pick. Crusher loved the pick, so if we're going by mass.... 58%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelticwizard Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 No way. He's not even in the top 20 conversation anymore. Maybe not even in the top 30. Cromartie is rated the #12 cornerback in the league by Advanced Football Analytics: http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted May 25, 2015 Share Posted May 25, 2015 Cromartie is rated the #12 cornerback in the league by Advanced Football Analytics: http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks SOJF Retarded Football Analytics has him as the #43 corner in the AFCE: http://www.sojfretardedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Cromartie is rated the #12 cornerback in the league by Advanced Football Analytics: http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks Is there a reason Revis isn't on that list? I mean, I'd certainly agree with Cro being #12, but Revis not being on there at all isn't right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Cromartie is rated the #12 cornerback in the league by Advanced Football Analytics: http://www.advancedfootballanalytics.com/index.php/home/stats/defensive-players/cornerbacks Darelle Revis is 37th on this glorious list. 37th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Realistically, I'd put Cro at anywhere from top 15-20 and Revis is #1, if not a very close #2 to Sherman or Peterson. Prime Revis would have destroyed everyone on this list, but even now Revis is still an elite corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Ideall Cro is a placeholder starter at the # 2 spot until Milliner/McDougle proves worthy of the starting job. He knows the system and can mentor the young guys. I know, I know, mentoring is overrated. But Revis definitely helped Cro when they played together. It stands to reason Cro can help Milliner/McDougle. I can't imagine Cro's play takes a cliff dive even at 31, so it's real hard to say he sucks now. He looked terrible at times early last season but played much better over the course of the season. Perhaps his hip is fully healed now? It helped that AZ's pass rush turned in several amazing efforts in a row. But our pass rush isn't exactly going to be lackluster this year, one would expect. Either way this is a good problem to have. Last year we had maybe the worst secondary in football. Now we have a former top 10 pick and a promising 3rd rounder relegated to bench duties to learn from one of the best ever and his sidekick, while Skrine handles slot duties. Not too shabby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Realistically, I'd put Cro at anywhere from top 15-20 and Revis is #1, if not a very close #2 to Sherman or Peterson. Prime Revis would have destroyed everyone on this list, but even now Revis is still an elite corner. 15-20...might be generous. Maybe 20-25 is more realistic. He's not what he used to be and some young corners out there are up and coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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