JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The worst part about this is that this smug _______ has been vindicated. If you thought he was an arrogant douchenozzle before....... Disagree about being vindicated. He's still a cheater. Is Roger Clemens a cheater? He was found not guilty too. The arrogant douchenozzleness on the other hand, will reach world record level height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETSfaninNE Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Good. I want no excuses when we win the division. This is what I'm talking about. I never though he deserved the suspension in the first place. I just didn't feel they had enough to nail him. No doubt Tom Shady knew what was going on but he's just too smart with not leaving evidence behind. I thought for sure 2 games for the phone and cooperation sh*t but beyond that I'm sure the NFL ****ed up their explanation for the punishment. But yeah I don't want to hear any excuses from Pats fans this year and I didn't want Rex to get any advantage. So for us its a win/win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So, all of the lawyers on this site that said the judge can't and won't rule based on the actual evidence and report are wrong? A lot of lawyers out there were saying the NFL would win this one based on the relatively airtight CBA. And they may well still win on appeal. We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Disagree about being vindicated. He's still a cheater. Is Roger Clemens a cheater? He was found not guilty too. The arrogant douchenozzleness on the other hand, will reach world record level height. In his mind he is vindicated. Mother ****er already thought he was bigger than the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Shocker. Every suspended player should sue everytime. Le'Veon Bell and Martavius Bryant should immediately file for injunctions to play week 1. PED guys won't be able to fight their cases based on this ruling. The judge compared what Brady did to PED's in the decision. Meaning the judge saw PED's as a viable suspension and Brady's as not, since players are well aware of the penalty for PED use. It's the gray area guys who will be able to fight their cases. Ones where the NFL is going off a vague precedent rather than a "If you do X your penalty is Y." There's a ton of those out there, which again is why the NFL needs to fight this via appeal for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Shocker. Every suspended player should sue everytime. Le'Veon Bell and Martavius Bryant should immediately file for injunctions to play week 1. Yep. Turn this stupid ******* league on its head. Fine? Sue. Suspension? Sue. Dont like the way you're being treated by your team? Sue. Dont like the way the NFLN talked about you on air? Sue. And just keep going and going and going. I wish Joey Porter was still in the league for moments like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliforniaJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Shocker. Every suspended player should sue everytime. Le'Veon Bell and Martavius Bryant should immediately file for injunctions to play week 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted September 3, 2015 Author Share Posted September 3, 2015 so the NFL needed to have a policy on deflating footballs already in place with specific punishments they need to release a new policy with 3,000 potential scenarios and punishments to contain belicheats brain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thirty pages, minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klecko73isGod Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Yep. Turn this stupid ******* league on its head. Fine? Sue. Suspension? Sue. Dont like the way you're being treated by your team? Sue. Dont like the way the NFLN talked about you on air? Sue. And just keep going and going and going. I wish Joey Porter was still in the league for moments like this. This is the end result of Goodell stupidly apointing himself judge, jury and executioner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Disagree about being vindicated. He's still a cheater. Is Roger Clemens a cheater? He was found not guilty too. The arrogant douchenozzleness on the other hand, will reach world record level height. Yep. The 1919 Black Sox were ruled in their favor in a federal court too. They were still very much guilty from a pro baseball perspective and banned for life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think that does it for me and the NFL....The league has become a joke. I wish the Jets and it's fans a lot of luck, I'll always be a Jet fan but simply can't be an NFL fan anymore...I'm out, at least until Goodell is gone. I feel you bud. It makes me want to punch my dad for making me a Jets fan even harder than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 If the Pats win the Super Bowl again this year, that will be awkward for Goodell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Man... I was so looking forward to the Pats clinching the division the week after Thanksgiving instead of the week before for a change. It's still possible. If the league appeals and wins, Brady could still be gone for 4 games, but at a more crucial point in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 PED guys won't be able to fight their cases based on this ruling. The judge compared what Brady did to PED's in the decision. Meaning the judge saw PED's as a viable suspension and Brady's as not, since players are well aware of the penalty for PED use. It's the gray area guys who will be able to fight their cases. Ones where the NFL is going off a vague precedent rather than a "You did X so your penalty is Y." There's a ton of those out there, which again is why the NFL needs to fight this via appeal for sure. So basically this could impact Sheldon. There is no written policy on driving 140+ and how that is bad. So maybe his legal problems will be the only problems he faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 if there's any good news in this, it's that the rest of the nfl owners must really hate them more than ever. i would imagine some owners will speak out against this result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BP Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Thirty pages, minimum. dbatesman JN Legend has spoken!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourceworx Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Goodell took over a league with a pristine reputation, and has sunk it. WWE has more credibility now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 OJ Simpson prosecutors did better at their jobs than these NFL lawyers. This should have been the easiest case in the world for the NFL to win, but the judge just kept probing the NFL's terrible process and poked holes in it. And the NFL lawyers just sat there with their c*cks in their hands, shrugging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Lawyers win today. Amazing day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Persiussa Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Just because oj Simpson was acquitted doesn't mean he's not guilty. Same with Brady. Brady knows he did it and so does the rest of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So basically this could impact Sheldon. There is no written policy on driving 140+ and how that is bad. So maybe his legal problems will be the only problems he faces. Yep. Sheldon's lawyers can just point to the Brady decision, and say "no one told Sheldon he couldn't do that." Off the hook completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 This is the end result of Goodell stupidly apointing himself judge, jury and executioner. It's amazing. And I laugh at the...yeah but they still took a fine and lost a pick, crowd. Who gives a ****? Every single Jets fan on the planet would happily give up a 1st round pick and some money in exchange for a Lombardi Trophy. I'll give up an entire draft and only field 10 players on both side of the ball for 2 straight years for a ******* Super Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Fan RI Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Key Points: The court found that Brady had no notice that he could receive a four-game suspension for general awareness of ball deflation by others Brady also had no notice that his discipline would be the equivalent of the discipline imposed upon a player who used PEDs What this tells me is that if they had given him a lesser punishment, we wouldn't be here But wait a minute. What about his obstructing an investigation? Basis for an appeal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 if there's any good news in this, it's that the rest of the nfl owners must really hate them more than ever. i would imagine some owners will speak out against this result. Yep. This is the biggest win the NFLPA has had in years, maybe ever. If the NFL does nothing or fails to win in appeal, this will be the 2nd biggest problem for the league behind the concussion issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It has to do more with the actual length. My guess is that if this had been 1 game, we wouldn't be here right now Right, but it essentially nullifies the CBA, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 It's amazing. And I laugh at the...yeah but they still took a fine and lost a pick, crowd. Who gives a ****? Every single Jets fan on the planet would happily give up a 1st round pick and some money in exchange for a Lombardi Trophy. I'll give up an entire draft and only field 10 players on both side of the ball for 2 straight years for a ******* Super Bowl Especially since the Patriots are absolutely f*ckin terrible in the draft anyways and it doesn't matter. Getting Brady back for 4 games has more value to them than the next 5 first rounders. Belichick will be gone as soon as Brady retires anyways so who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FidelioJet Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 A lot of lawyers out there were saying the NFL would win this one based on the relatively airtight CBA. And they may well still win on appeal. We'll see. No way the NFL appeals...they'll let this end... Although - they might have to to protect the CBA... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Add the "Concussion" movie coming out and the NFL will need to get new leadership Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 No way the NFL appeals...they'll let this end... Although - they might have to to protect the CBA... They'd be incredibly stupid not to appeal. But then again this is the NFL we're talking about so I won't put it past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 So... if Goodell can't impose player discipline... and his lawyers negotiate the TV contracts... and the teams manage their own stadiums and merchandising... and NCAA runs the farm system... the question is begged of Mr. Goodell.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What's to stop the NFLPA from taking the league to court on the CBA right now and winning a bunch of concessions in their favor? Clearly the NFLPA just got the upper hand over the NFL for the first time in their history. Why not take advantage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedWhofans Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 What's to stop the NFLPA from taking the league to court on the CBA right now and winning a bunch of concessions in their favor? Clearly the NFLPA just got the upper hand over the NFL for the first time in their history. Why not take advantage? Wouldn't be surprised if that doesn't happen next offseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furor Teutonicus Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 And the cheating will continue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 PED guys won't be able to fight their cases based on this ruling. The judge compared what Brady did to PED's in the decision. Meaning the judge saw PED's as a viable suspension and Brady's as not, since players are well aware of the penalty for PED use. It's the gray area guys who will be able to fight their cases. Ones where the NFL is going off a vague precedent rather than a "If you do X your penalty is Y." There's a ton of those out there, which again is why the NFL needs to fight this via appeal for sure. Maybe not based on this one but now that Goodell's supremacy has been called into question who knows where else players can chisel away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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