The Crusher Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, T0mShane said: To clean up this weak metaphor, the "high school lover's quarrel" in this case stems from a 260 lb fifth-year senior skank who's renowned for giving dead-fish handjobs to members of the AV club, but who finally gave the first semi-satisfying blowjob of her life to a sophomore who may or may not have multiple sclerosis, and now she wants to be prom queen. Ok . So much win in this post I honestly wish I could eat it and make it part of my soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Not likely if the current one said they liked their work so much that they wanted to bring them back to do the same job. They do but not at 10 times the salary. Double it, triple it, quadruple it but 10 times? Preposterous considering his last big project ended up as a loss Burning the building to the ground with every body going home at the end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 Funny thread in some ways. Brady makes $9 Million and Fitz is supposed to be "insulted" that the Jets offered him 7 or 8 milliom and in the alternative universe the Jets are supposed to pay Fitz 15 million or more cause some teams are dumb enough to pay that to QBs who havent even had a good season yet. Ok makes sense. Brady's base salary for 2016 and 2017 is $1MM per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Brady's base salary for 2016 and 2017 is $1MM per year. Yeah but HIS beard is worth half a billion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 23 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Brady's base salary for 2016 and 2017 is $1MM per year. More patriot games. Deliberately done in anticipation of his suspension for cheating being upheld. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Never said anything of the sort. I've said all along, 10-11 million per. He deserves better than backup QB money. Telliing him and his agent that he'll fill a position that earns $15-$18 mil on average is only gonna' slow the process down. If Mac can find a way to get him for vet minimum, I'd be thrilled. Ok then that is great. So we are all set waiting Fitz out. And that means that the coaches words had no impact on what is happening here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 56 minutes ago, KRL said: If Fitzpatrick and his agent want the Jets to increase their offer he'll need to "bet" on himself. Get creative and suggest he gets bonuses for the team's success. Something like: 250K - For making the playoffs by being the wildcard 500K - For making the playoffs by winning the AFC East 1 million - For each playoff win If he thinks he's turned into Rich Gannon at this stage of his career prove it by leading this team on a deep playoff run That would be great. Then we can blame Fitz for not repeating when we owe him 14mm after the Super Bowl Victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 2 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Adding sanity back to this thread-Here is the entire context of what Bowles said, and it is where the Jets are today: Todd Bowles said the veteran quarterback’s fourth quarter performance on Sunday — which included three interceptions — did not tarnish the tremendous season he had for the Jets. Fitzpatrick, who had the best season of his career in his 11th year in the league, will be a free agent at the end of the season. “We want him back,” Bowles said, reiterating what he told the Daily News last month. And if Fitzpatrick is back, the coach continued, it would be as the team’s starter. While Bowles was steadfast in his desire to get his quarterback back next year, he did caution that there would be limits to what they might pay for him. “Understand, when you try to bring somebody back and money gets involved, it involves the whole team,” Bowles said. “It’s just not about bringing Fitz back, it’s being able to afford him or somebody else overpaying for him or those type of things, but you can’t take away from anything he’s done this year from a record standpoint or otherwise.” Thank you! /Thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 1 hour ago, The Crusher said: Ok . So much win in this post I honestly wish I could eat it and make it part of my soul. LMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUM-KNEE Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 30 minutes ago, Maxman said: Ok then that is great. So we are all set waiting Fitz out. And that means that the coaches words had no impact on what is happening here. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 4 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Brady's base salary for 2016 and 2017 is $1MM per year. what is his cap number ? how much profit does he make operating TB12 and doing business with the patriots ? what is ernie's job description ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 some reality fitz has been contacted by the defending world champions, and they still have a job opening, so he won't be signing anywhere until they finish their process the broncos first choice is kap, and they want to see if they can apply pressure to the 9ers up to the day his contract becomes guaranteed on April 1st mac has no juice, no moves, no leverage, he is a bystander until probably masters week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 7 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Adding sanity back to this thread-Here is the entire context of what Bowles said, and it is where the Jets are today: Todd Bowles said the veteran quarterback’s fourth quarter performance on Sunday — which included three interceptions — did not tarnish the tremendous season he had for the Jets. Fitzpatrick, who had the best season of his career in his 11th year in the league, will be a free agent at the end of the season. “We want him back,” Bowles said, reiterating what he told the Daily News last month. And if Fitzpatrick is back, the coach continued, it would be as the team’s starter. While Bowles was steadfast in his desire to get his quarterback back next year, he did caution that there would be limits to what they might pay for him. “Understand, when you try to bring somebody back and money gets involved, it involves the whole team,” Bowles said. “It’s just not about bringing Fitz back, it’s being able to afford him or somebody else overpaying for him or those type of things, but you can’t take away from anything he’s done this year from a record standpoint or otherwise.” OMG!!! I can't believe he said Fitz is the starter!!!! If he would have kept his big mouth shut Fitz would be signed right now for $2mil per year as backup water boy!! I AM SO MAD AT BOWLES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freemanm Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 5 hours ago, cant wait said: Why pay him 10 when nobody's willing to go past 7? I think he deserves a bit more than 7, but not much more. Certainly not what he's asking for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shevys Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 hours ago, UnitedWhofans said: I'll also tell you the difference between this and Rex/Revis. Revis had a track record for being greedy and being a malcontent. Fitz doesn't have that history Revis does have a history of being the best at his position though. Something nobody will ever, ever say about Fitz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 hours ago, Scott Dierking said: Adding sanity back to this thread-Here is the entire context of what Bowles said, and it is where the Jets are today: Todd Bowles said the veteran quarterback’s fourth quarter performance on Sunday — which included three interceptions — did not tarnish the tremendous season he had for the Jets. Fitzpatrick, who had the best season of his career in his 11th year in the league, will be a free agent at the end of the season. “We want him back,” Bowles said, reiterating what he told the Daily News last month. And if Fitzpatrick is back, the coach continued, it would be as the team’s starter. While Bowles was steadfast in his desire to get his quarterback back next year, he did caution that there would be limits to what they might pay for him. “Understand, when you try to bring somebody back and money gets involved, it involves the whole team,” Bowles said. “It’s just not about bringing Fitz back, it’s being able to afford him or somebody else overpaying for him or those type of things, but you can’t take away from anything he’s done this year from a record standpoint or otherwise.” Thank you... Thank you... Thank you And yet we have multiple posts saying Bowles blew it..... Ok......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 what is his cap number ? how much profit does he make operating TB12 and doing business with the patriots ? what is ernie's job description ? 1) $14MM the next 2 years ($1MM salary and $13MM signing bonus). 2) Zero, Giselle gets all the money for that. 3) His only job description is gaining a competitive advantage for the Patriots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 13 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: Thank you... Thank you... Thank you And yet we have multiple posts saying Bowles blew it..... Ok......... It's all the Rex lovers claiming that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I honestly think that within the Jets management and coaches Bowlesis on an island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 10 hours ago, AFJF said: Yes, because when somebody is hired to do a very specific job that comes with a very specific skill set that only a few people in the planet have, they'll jump at the chance to be paid 45% of what the average salary is for said job. Happens all the time. The first part of this that is wrong is that there's an average salary that applies to all QBs. A 26 year old up and coming QB isn worth the same as a 33 year old, weak armed, never been to the playoffs QB. Like it or not. Fitz has no potential, isn't any kind of long term solution that you're looking to lock up. All QBs are not equal. And money is based on supply and demand, there is no demand for Fitz at his asking price. Doesn't make the jets the ones pitching the wrong dollar figure Charlie Casserly talk d about Fitz today. Talked about how weak armed QBs lose it all at once, how he doesn't think Fit would ever be worth the eventual dead money that a 3 year deal would stick the Jets with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 2 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: 1) $14MM the next 2 years ($1MM salary and $13MM signing bonus). 2) Zero, Giselle gets all the money for that. 3) His only job description is gaining a competitive advantage for the Patriots. 1) so the salary is irrelevant and you point is moot 2) lie http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25421960/report-pats-pay-a-brady-owned-company-run-by-suspect-partner 3) Not coincidentally, the Bucs were also New England's opponent in the regular-season opener. A few days before the game, Walsh told Senate investigators, according to notes of the interview, a backup quarterback named John Friesz was summoned to Belichick's office. Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis and a professorial, quirky man named Ernie Adams were present. Adams was -- and still is -- a mystery in the Patriots building, a socially awkward amateur historian of pro football and the Vietnam War who often wore the same red, hole-ridden Patriots sweater from the 1970s. He had a photographic memory, and Brady once said that Adams "knows more about professional football than anyone I ever met." Adams' title was football research director, the only known person with that title in the NFL. He had made a fortune in the stock market in the 1980s, and the joke was that the only person in the building richer than Adams was Kraft. Belichick and Adams had been friends since 1970, when they were classmates at Phillips Academy, a New England prep school. Adams introduced himself to Belichick because he recognized his name from a little-known scouting book published in 1962 by his father, Steve Belichick. "He told me, 'The league doesn't need this. We're asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence.'" Mike Martz, ex-Rams coach, about commissioner Roger Goodell When Bill Belichick became coach of the Browns in 1991, he hired Adams to be a consigliere of sorts. Owner Art Modell famously offered $10,000 to any employee who could tell him what Adams did. In short, in Cleveland and in New England, Adams did whatever he wanted -- and whatever Belichick wanted: statistical analysis, scouting and strategy. Years later, Walsh recalled to Senate investigators that Adams told old stories from the Browns about giving a video staffer an NFL Films shirt and assigning him to film the opponents' sideline huddles and grease boards from behind the bench. The shared view of Belichick and Adams, according to many who've worked with them, is this: The league is lazy and incompetent, so why not push every boundary? "You'd want Bill and Ernie doing your taxes," says a former Patriots assistant coach. "They would find all the loopholes, and then when the IRS would close them, they'd find more." Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick's office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs' signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score -- a 21-16 Bucs win -- as evidence of Spygate's ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs' defenses before the snap. Now, the Patriots realized that they were on to something, a schematic edge that could allow their best minds more control on the field. Taping from the sideline increased efficiency and minimized confusion. And so, as Walsh later told investigators, the system improved, becoming more streamlined -- and more secretive. The quarterbacks were cut out of the process. The only people involved were a few coaches, the video staff and, of course, Adams. Belichick, almost five years after being fired by the Browns and fully aware that this was his last best shot as a head coach, placed an innovative system of cheating in the hands of his most trusted friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not coincidentally, the Bucs were also New England's opponent in the regular-season opener. A few days before the game, Walsh told Senate investigators, according to notes of the interview, a backup quarterback named John Friesz was summoned to Belichick's office. Offensive coordinator Charlie Weis and a professorial, quirky man named Ernie Adams were present. Adams was -- and still is -- a mystery in the Patriots building, a socially awkward amateur historian of pro football and the Vietnam War who often wore the same red, hole-ridden Patriots sweater from the 1970s. He had a photographic memory, and Brady once said that Adams "knows more about professional football than anyone I ever met." Adams' title was football research director, the only known person with that title in the NFL. He had made a fortune in the stock market in the 1980s, and the joke was that the only person in the building richer than Adams was Kraft. Belichick and Adams had been friends since 1970, when they were classmates at Phillips Academy, a New England prep school. Adams introduced himself to Belichick because he recognized his name from a little-known scouting book published in 1962 by his father, Steve Belichick. "He told me, 'The league doesn't need this. We're asking you to come out with a couple lines exonerating us and saying we did our due diligence.'" Mike Martz, ex-Rams coach, about commissioner Roger Goodell When Bill Belichick became coach of the Browns in 1991, he hired Adams to be a consigliere of sorts. Owner Art Modell famously offered $10,000 to any employee who could tell him what Adams did. In short, in Cleveland and in New England, Adams did whatever he wanted -- and whatever Belichick wanted: statistical analysis, scouting and strategy. Years later, Walsh recalled to Senate investigators that Adams told old stories from the Browns about giving a video staffer an NFL Films shirt and assigning him to film the opponents' sideline huddles and grease boards from behind the bench. The shared view of Belichick and Adams, according to many who've worked with them, is this: The league is lazy and incompetent, so why not push every boundary? "You'd want Bill and Ernie doing your taxes," says a former Patriots assistant coach. "They would find all the loopholes, and then when the IRS would close them, they'd find more." Days before the Tampa Bay game, in Belichick's office, Friesz was told that the Patriots had a tape of the Bucs' signals. He was instructed to memorize them, and during the game, to watch Bucs defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin and tell Weis the defensive play, which Weis would relay over the radio headset system to quarterback Drew Bledsoe. That Sunday against the Bucs, Walsh later told investigators, the Patriots played more no-huddle than usual, forcing Kiffin to signal in plays quickly, allowing Weis sufficient time to relay the information. Years later, some Patriots coaches would point to the score -- a 21-16 Bucs win -- as evidence of Spygate's ineffectiveness. But as Walsh later told investigators, Friesz, who did not respond to messages to comment for this story, told Walsh after the game that the Patriots knew 75 percent of the Bucs' defenses before the snap. Now, the Patriots realized that they were on to something, a schematic edge that could allow their best minds more control on the field. Taping from the sideline increased efficiency and minimized confusion. And so, as Walsh later told investigators, the system improved, becoming more streamlined -- and more secretive. The quarterbacks were cut out of the process. The only people involved were a few coaches, the video staff and, of course, Adams. Belichick, almost five years after being fired by the Browns and fully aware that this was his last best shot as a head coach, placed an innovative system of cheating in the hands of his most trusted friend.
BowlesMovement Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 hours ago, johnnysd said: I honestly think that within the Jets management and coaches Bowlesis on an island. Can you posts some links to show where your getting your opinion from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 16 hours ago, Maxman said: Ok then that is great. So we are all set waiting Fitz out. And that means that the coaches words had no impact on what is happening here. Not in a major way yet, but it's dragging this thing out longer than it should have. If Fitz continues to demand more than he's worth based on being promised the starting job, he may end up with Denver, and Jets fans are looking at another season outside the top 20 in scoring offense unless Gailey does the most incredible job in NFL history and turns Geno into a somewhat worse than atrocious gameday QB, or Petty is wayyy ahead of any of the projections that said he'd need a couple of years. Honesly, after Mac's comments yesterday, I'm not too worried about Geno winning the job. Being a four-year vet and only Petty to compete with should garner a lot more than a "definitely possible" when asked if he'll start in absence of Fitz. Go get Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32EBoozer Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: Not in a major way yet, but it's dragging this thing out longer than it should have. If Fitz continues to demand more than he's worth based on being promised the starting job, he may end up with Denver, and Jets fans are looking at another season outside the top 20 in scoring offense unless Gailey does the most incredible job in NFL history and turns Geno into a somewhat worse than atrocious gameday QB, or Petty is wayyy ahead of any of the projections that said he'd need a couple of years. Honesly, after Mac's comments yesterday, I'm not too worried about Geno winning the job. Being a four-year vet and only Petty to compete with should garner a lot more than a "definitely possible" when asked if he'll start in absence of Fitz. Go get Glennon. The only problem with that is our OL will be no better than what Glennon played behind in TB. He'll get killed. Add to that he'll be a FA after next season and most likely be gone unlss we FT him. Might be best to roll with Geno( while giving Petty some playing time after week 10), create some Cap space for next year, draft OL heavy this yr or QB, get a top 8 pick next and sign Glennon next yr. if Petty looks lost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, 32EBoozer said: The only problem with that is our OL will be no better than what Glennon played behind in TB. He'll get killed. Add to that he'll be a FA after next season and most likely be gone unlss we FT him. Might be best to roll with Geno( while giving Petty some playing time after week 10), create some Cap space for next year, draft OL heavy this yr or QB, get a top 8 pick next and sign Glennon next yr. if Petty looks lost. I think they upgrade one of the OT spots on draft day which would help immensely. Carpenter is fine, Mangold is fine, Winters isn't the horror show he once was. We'll see. If there are any problems with the O-line and Geno is the QB....they're looking at a finishing outside the top 25 in scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 20 hours ago, AFJF said: Yes, because when somebody is hired to do a very specific job that comes with a very specific skill set that only a few people in the planet have, they'll jump at the chance to be paid 45% of what the average salary is for said job. Happens all the time. Below average QBs don't get paid average salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 Just now, j4jets said: Below average QBs don't get paid average salary. Really? You should take a look at what some of these guys are making because you're wrong. How many starting QB's threw over 30 TD's last season and are making $7 million w/o being on a rookie deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: Really? You should take a look at what some of these guys are making because you're wrong. How many starting QB's threw over 30 TD's last season and are making $7 million w/o being on a rookie deal? Wohhhh!! Easy with the logic there brah! There's no place for logic when interweb egos are at stake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 7 minutes ago, AFJF said: Really? You should take a look at what some of these guys are making because you're wrong. How many starting QB's threw over 30 TD's last season and are making $7 million w/o being on a rookie deal? how many of em are over 33, has played 10 yr in the league started a bunch and never led their team to 1 single stinking playoff game . Fitzpatrick is what he is, and it's not a 12 mil a year QB. All that being said, I would not be upset to see him back as the starting QB heading into camp . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 8 minutes ago, AFJF said: How many starting QB's threw over 30 TD's last season against 13 of the last 16 ranked Ds and are making $7 million w/o being on a rookie deal? Fixed it for ya. You're welcome. Also, after the 3-4 mil a year rookie deals,it's either backups making 4-8 mils or starters making 14+ mils. He falls in the upper tier of that 4-8 mil category. Upper tier. That's my daily dose of Fitz praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, Tinstar said: how many of em are over 33, has played 10 yr in the league started a bunch and never led their team to 1 single stinking playoff game . Fitzpatrick is what he is, and it's not a 12 mil a year QB. All that being said, I would not be upset to see him back as the starting QB heading into camp . It's about production when talking dollars and cets. Age should impact length of the deal which I think should be for 2-3 years. I know it's super popular to say football is a game of one-on-one between QB's, but there are 22 guys on the field at a time. Teams win football games, not individual players. Tim Tebow is a young QB with a playoff win who can be had for vet minimum, should Mac go get him? Sign Fitz for $10-11 million or go get Glennon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowlesMovement Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 3 minutes ago, j4jets said: Fixed it for ya. You're welcome. Also, after the 3-4 mil a year rookie deals,it's either backups making 4-8 mils or starters making 14+ mils. He falls in the upper tier of that 4-8 mil category. Upper tier. That's my daily dose of Fitz praise. There is still nothing to backup your claim of below average. Below average what? Starter? Backup? You can whine and cry about the schedule all you want, it does nothing to backup your below average claim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, j4jets said: Fixed it for ya. You're welcome. Also, after the 3-4 mil a year rookie deals,it's either backups making 4-8 mils or starters making 14+ mils. He falls in the upper tier of that 4-8 mil category. Upper tier. That's my daily dose of Fitz praise. Can't fault the player for what the schedule makers put in front of him. As much as it upsets you, he played well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j4jets Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 5 minutes ago, BowlesMovement said: Wohhhh!! Easy with the logic there brah! There's no place for logic when interweb egos are at stake! You both are pretty funny. On one side, you guys love sucking on Bowles/Macs plan, but on the other hand, you're essentially calling them idiots that don't wanna pay Fitz 15 mil. Fitz will not be making the average starter money. If Jets wanted that, they would have caved long time ago. He's garbage. Tattoo that to your forehead as a reminder cuz 10 months down the road, I'll ask you the same question. An average season against stinking Ds didn't change my opinion and neither will another failed season with him. As Casserley said it, "Fitz has peaked and isn't going to put up those same stats again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 6 minutes ago, j4jets said: Fixed it for ya. You're welcome. Also, after the 3-4 mil a year rookie deals,it's either backups making 4-8 mils or starters making 14+ mils. He falls in the upper tier of that 4-8 mil category. Upper tier. That's my daily dose of Fitz praise. Can't fault the player for what the schedule makers put in front of him. As much as it upsets you, he played well. 1 minute ago, j4jets said: You both are pretty funny. On one side, you guys love sucking on Bowles/Macs plan, but on the other hand, you're essentially calling them idiots that don't wanna pay Fitz 15 mil. Fitz will not be making the average starter money. If Jets wanted that, they would have caved long time ago. He's garbage. Tattoo that to your forehead as a reminder cuz 10 months down the road, I'll ask you the same question. An average season against stinking Ds didn't change my opinion and neither will another failed season with him. As Casserley said it, "Fitz has peaked and isn't going to put up those same stats again". Show me where I said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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