Augustiniak Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 i don't fault revis being burned by the fastest guy on the field. i fault the jets for not giving help to anyone covering goodwin. even revis in his prime gets burned by him. the guy is just too fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 3 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. As we've talked about millions of times that contract was inane and probably on Woody. And no negotiation period, he signed him on the first day he was eligible. It was stupid. But the guy is not a bum and still a very good player. And also an all time great Jets player. Most of us want him on this team. I do but not for stupid money. Look, BB does not pay out 12 mil to just anyone. He wanted Revis that year despite the fact his game was not at that same level it was before his injury. He's let plenty of good players like Ty Law walk rather than pay them even market. But he's not stupid enough to give him 20 mil either only we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Powpow said: Half this board has no idea who that is..... isnt he related to Elvis Presley? 2 Quote Shakes cane..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. Because he would be the best player in the Patriiot's secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. Pats were ready to bring him back, but Revis being Revis got the Jets to offer a hair more. Reports here (in NE) were that Pats were offering similar annual salary, with less guaranteed. But, if he's rostered the first 2 years, which he would have been in NE too, he'd have been making his full salary. So... you're talking out of your poop hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 12 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. Are you trying to tell us that the Pats didn't try to resign Revis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Jet Nut said: Are you trying to tell us that the Pats didn't try to resign Revis? It's true. They gave him a 2 year deal with an out. And the second year was 20 mil. They never planned on paying him that 20. It was a one year rental for BB and he won a SB. I also think that BB loved Revis as a player and just wanted to spend a year with him. Just not at the level DR used to be before his injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Rangers9 said: It's true. They gave him a 2 year deal with an out. And the second year was 20 mil. They never planned on paying him that 20. It was a one year rental for BB and he won a SB. I also think that BB loved Revis as a player and just wanted to spend a year with him. Just not at the level DR used to be before his injury. The last time the Patriots won a Super Bowl Revis was on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Rangers9 said: It's true. They gave him a 2 year deal with an out. And the second year was 20 mil. They never planned on paying him that 20. It was a one year rental for BB and he won a SB. I also think that BB loved Revis as a player and just wanted to spend a year with him. Just not at the level DR used to be before his injury. They tried to sign him, are you kidding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangers9 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Jet Nut said: They tried to sign him, are you kidding They had him under contract for 2015. He had signed a two year deal with them for 32 mil.in 2014. But NEP could get out of it after one year. And they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 17 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. 1 minute ago, Rangers9 said: It's true. They gave him a 2 year deal with an out. And the second year was 20 mil. They never planned on paying him that 20. It was a one year rental for BB and he won a SB. I also think that BB loved Revis as a player and just wanted to spend a year with him. Just not at the level DR used to be before his injury. 1. http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2015/02/patriots_begin_contract_plans_to_keep_darrelle_rev.html 2. After five days of silence on the loss of his team’s best defensive player, New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft finally opened up at the St. Patrick’s Day Breakfast in South Boston. Sort of. As of Tuesday night, Patriots’ No. 1 cornerback Darrelle Revis is again a New York Jet. Kraft and head coach Bill Belichick have been conspicuously quiet about his departure, and despite “addressing’’ the subject Sunday morning, Kraft provided little clarity. Here’s Kraft’s statement, per CSN New England’s Phil Perry: “We’ve been taking a lot of flak about losing one of our best players Darrelle Revis, and what happened. The story isn’t known, and I’m gonna tell the story here, and you’re gonna know how sensitive I am to what the people in this room care about. The money was about the same, he was actually favoring us, coming to us a little cheaper, but he had one demand, and that demand was . . . he wanted to change the name down the street here of Castle Island to Revis Island. I told him that was non-negotiable and a deal-breaker.’’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Gonna be interesting when Macc goes to Revise about lowering his salary. Revis won't have a leg to stand on! He can't threaten a holdout anymore. Of course I don't know the contract details but I'm sure we'd be on the hook for a boatload of money. His hardline negotiating days are over, but you have to admire how he milked everyone when he was at the top of his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jetster said: Gonna be interesting when Macc goes to Revise about lowering his salary. Revis won't have a leg to stand on! He can't threaten a holdout anymore. Of course I don't know the contract details but I'm sure we'd be on the hook for a boatload of money. His hardline negotiating days are over, but you have to admire how he milked everyone when he was at the top of his game. yes, the salary cap situation will be more friendly next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rillo Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: Last year is creeping into this year. It's becoming more of a pattern than a couple game thing. Agreed, but the jets need to help the guy out. It's a pattern, so the coaching staff needs to adjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 34 minutes ago, Augustiniak said: i don't fault revis being burned by the fastest guy on the field. i fault the jets for not giving help to anyone covering goodwin. even revis in his prime gets burned by him. the guy is just too fast. Revis said after the game he wasn't aware that he was an Olympic sprinter. They were also knocking on the jets scouting dept. this morning on the radio for not having scouted this guy and his big play threat and Olympic speed. By overlooking this guy they basically set Revis up for failure. After that play and for the rest of the game, Revis backed off and respected his speed. Revis was not going to get beat a 2nd time....and he didnt. If Revis was a sh*tty CB then he would of been abused all game by him and he wasn't. After that fluke play, Revis did his job for the rest of the game IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanTX Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 After that fluke play, Revis did his job for the rest of the game IMO. Why is it that every time Revis gets smoked, it's considered a "fluke" play? Fluke plays do not occur every single week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prime21 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Much later in his career but Revis is showing that he has the Asomugha disease right now. I still have faith that he will get better but he does need help over the top vs the speedy WR's....like almost every CB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Burris should be playing over him...wonder if Bowles has the stones to bench him. Doubtful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 21 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why is it that every time Revis gets smoked, it's considered a "fluke" play? Fluke plays do not occur every single week. Kind of the feeling I get reading your posts. Like the one telling all that the Pats didn't try to resign Revis. Or better yet, how's this one, when the Pats are caught cheating agin and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 11 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Burris should be playing over him...wonder if Bowles has the stones to bench him. Doubtful... Lol, yeah, there you go, worst post of the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Just now, Jet Nut said: Lol, yeah, there you go, worst post of the thread. Let me know when he forces an incompletion, because receivers are currently batting 1.000 for 300 yards and two touchdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 20 minutes ago, PatsFanTX said: Why is it that every time Revis gets smoked, it's considered a "fluke" play? Fluke plays do not occur every single week. Lets make Fluke the word of the day now! What do you call the Pats winning a superbowl without cheating? A fluke!!! Have a great day, a$$hole! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Nut Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 4 minutes ago, Matt39 said: Let me know when he forces an incompletion, because receivers are currently batting 1.000 for 300 yards and two touchdowns. Ugh, keep telling yourself he hasn't, won't and should be replaced if the coach had balls. Theres more to this game than just screaming he sucks. Plus it helps to actually watch the games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachEY Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 1 hour ago, stugotz81 said: Revis said after the game he wasn't aware that he was an Olympic sprinter. Perhaps because he's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmajet Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, PatsFanTX said: Why would the Pats want to pay $17MM for an old, slow, fat CB who has no motivation whatsoever? You don't sign a player like that for a PR (like Woody did) move. Nope he is correct; you pay him 10 MM and then you funnel an extra 10MM a year to him via a business to avoid cap implications. Then you bug the opposing teams locker room or head sets, steal their signals and mess with the equipment to make him look better. You do it all and then you use the fact that you drafted a psychopath, re-signed him even though you knew he was harassing and bullying his own players and then you pretend you are all classy when you drop him after you find out he is a murderer. Then you get call the coach a genius who controls every aspect of the game but who somehow never knows the rules of the game that he is breaking or what other cheating and violence is going on with your team. That's how you build a contender... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSteve Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 12 hours ago, joewilly12 said: We won tonight guys and we decide to tear up the best CB to ever wear a Jets uniform. COME ON MAN when he sucks, yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stugotz81 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 53 minutes ago, gEYno said: Perhaps because he's not. your right, almost qualified.....runs as fast as them...who really cares tbh bc the dude had serious wheels and the Jets didnt prepare correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 6 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: What about the history of Revis and his money gives you the slightest idea that he would take a pay cut? 6 hours ago, sourceworx said: Unicorns are real. 5 hours ago, gEYno said: Always great to welcome new Jets fans here to Jet Nation. Lol alright I'll take it in stride. Didn't give the best explanation for my thought process. Realistically though, Revis knows that if he's cut and this type of play continues, he's not going to be making big bucks anywhere else. As much as I loaattthheeee businessman Revis, he's a smart dude. It will all depend on how he finishes. If he finishes the year as a corner worth 10-12mil and not 15-17mil, methinks there's a way they can restructure that deal to make it more team friendly without allowing Darrelle to test the open market. IF he's playing like a guy who's worth no more than 8 mil? Then it could get tricky and we may have to cut him, play hardball and tell him that as long as the value is right, we'll match another teams offer. If that's the case though...and Revis has declined that much...then yeah, I don't think he'll be here next year and OP is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 2 hours ago, CanadaSteve said: when he sucks, yes He doesn't suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogglez Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 7 hours ago, Matt39 said: FWIW, Jason Cole's reporting Revis dogged it this offseason and came in out of shape. He also intentionally put off surgery so he could miss mini camp and OTA's...so there's that. Buyer beware. All I need to hear to know that this is complete bullsh*t. Thanks. Revis has been described, EVERYWHERE he's been, as the most intense practice player on the face of the planet. Am I supposed to believe the intense battles him and Marshall had all offseason were nonsense because some fat slop blogger who is a wannabe insider said so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 16 hours ago, southparkcpa said: Half this board has no idea who that is..... King of rock & roll. Don't you question our knowledge again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powpow Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 8 hours ago, peebag said: Shakes cane..... You ain't nothing but a hound dog ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The Revis JR Smith twitter war should be an interesting subplot to the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bassmaster2 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 He here for the rest of the season ,He looking at the QB not covering the wideout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorGato Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 This thought keeps occuring to me....It's that I'm fascinated a 31 YO CB, even this one being Revis, getting beat one on one by AJ Green was/is as much a story as it turned out to be. AJ Green is the best WR in football (at least IMO) and every bit a HOFer at 28 as Revis was at that age. This other TD is a little more embarrassing I guess, but even then there's worse than getting burned once by an Olympic caliber runner once in a game the team won. My guess is by the end of season we're probably looked at Revis putting up yet another top 10 CB season. He's not as fast as he once was, that happens, but we've seen plenty of elite DBs and CBs put up excellent seasons in their 30s even when they've declined a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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