JohnJ Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Good ol' Dick Semeny. Such a fine reporter and writer. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, NoBowles said: Unfortunately I think Glennon, Taylor, Romo, Cutler, aka the group of which I think the Jets will get one of, will all demand much more than a 1 year 7 million dollar deal. I see no way the Jets go into the season without one of those guys, Bowles and Mac know their asses are done if they don't show big improvement, and I expect them to overpay to land one of those 4. Romo or Cutler would be a disaster, and I think its unlikely that either Taylor or Glennon are every going to be franchise QB's. In general I like your post but let me make this clear to any Jet fan.. No starting NFL QB will make less than Fitz did last year..... NO ONE...... So why even suggest that you will get a starting QB for $7 Million Dollars... Any starting QB in the NFL will get at least $14 Million Dollars... Come on now!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, AFJF said: Music to my ears. I'd assume Rich Cimini will be the pick for Secretary of the Interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangerous Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 cimini seems to be trying to push the string a bit with this tweet. what is he basing his opinion on? a fan board? i guess we should be thankful that he didn't say an unamed jet source told him. the bottom line is the jets need a qb for next season and glennon is available. so why not take a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: You are obviously comparing him to both with your logic. I'm comparing your "logic" to their situations, which is that if a QB is on the bench at some point in his career, he must be trash. I didn't say a single word about Glennon being an equal player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 35 minutes ago, jetscrazey said: The Matt Flynn of 2017, yay So you've never watched the two play, I take it...because one is not a single thing like the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: In general I like your post but let me make this clear to any Jet fan.. No starting NFL QB will make less than Fitz did last year..... NO ONE...... So why even suggest that you will get a starting QB for $7 Million Dollars... Any starting QB in the NFL will get at least $14 Million Dollars... Come on now!!!! The Jets starting QB last season made 7 million dollars. And less than that the year before. If Hack or Petty started their cap number wouldn't be 14 million. So. Yeah. It's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brown Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, CrazyCarl40 said: The Jets starting QB last season made 7 million dollars. And less than that the year before. If Hack or Petty started their cap number wouldn't be 14 million. So. Yeah. It's possible. If you want QB play like had last year than yes it is possible. Why they could have me at $3 Million and it would be fine But if we want a competent QB next year than we have to be willing to spend money on the most important position on the field..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, Tinstar said: Did any of those 2 guys have NFL game experience for fans to critique prior to making their bones ? Yes...Young was an absolute disaster with the Bucs before moving on to SF. Warner was with the Colts but had only played in the Arena league. Glennon has played extensively and has a 2-1 TD/INT ratio and performed well against some elite defenses with a terrible supporting cast and very little experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroadwayJoe12 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 hour ago, joewilly12 said: Im not going to judge Glennon yet but what do the Jets think they are accomplishing if they sign Glennon but bringing in another teams trash who has 0 success in the NFL. Glennon will come cheaper than Taylor and allow them to sign other much needed free agents. If they do sign Glennon I will support him and hope for the best. This move is typical NY Jets, 1000x better than signing the bearded imposter QB. I dunno Jaydub, on one hand, your track record for player evaluation is impeccable, but on the other hand, how am I supposed to take someone seriously with such a low and continuously decreasing reputation status!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 16 minutes ago, Charlie Brown said: In general I like your post but let me make this clear to any Jet fan.. No starting NFL QB will make less than Fitz did last year..... NO ONE...... So why even suggest that you will get a starting QB for $7 Million Dollars... Any starting QB in the NFL will get at least $14 Million Dollars... Come on now!!!! All the hysteria over Fitz being the worst paid starting QB in the NFL who took any snaps in 2015 was hilarious. People keep screaming about $12 million with a cap of over $150 million like it's going to hamstring them for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCarl40 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, Charlie Brown said: If you want QB play like had last year than yes it is possible. Why they could have me at $3 Million and it would be fine But if we want a competent QB next year than we have to be willing to spend money on the most important position on the field..................... There is zero guarantee that Glennon or Taylor or whomever earns that money and plays well. Based on their careers it's likely they play okay enough to win 6 or 7 games but cannot elevate the franchise to the next level. If they could their respective teams wouldn't be looking to let them go. All 6 or 7 wins gets you is a regime change, and outside of the drafting range for a legitimate quarterback. Not interested in mediocrity anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: I dunno Jaydub, on one hand, your track record for player evaluation is impeccable, but on the other hand, how am I supposed to take someone seriously with such a low and continuously decreasing reputation status!? Don't forget, he's the guy who told all of us that Drew Brees isn't that good. Yes, that Drew Brees. The one who threw 37 touchdowns and passed for 5208 yards this season. He's not that good. Sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnJ Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, BroadwayJoe12 said: I dunno Jaydub, on one hand, your track record for player evaluation is impeccable, but on the other hand, how am I supposed to take someone seriously with such a low and continuously decreasing reputation status!? Hahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, AFJF said: Yes...Young was an absolute disaster with the Bucs before moving on to SF. Warner was with the Colts but had only played in the Arena league. Glennon has played extensively and has a 2-1 TD/INT ratio and performed well against some elite defenses with a terrible supporting cast and very little experience. Young wasn't a disaster with the Bucs, but the Bucs was a disaster all by themselves . NFL Franchise QBs are not born, but instead developed . Instability within a franchise is doom for any decent prospect . It's why I still have hope for Hackenberg, who like the 2015 Jets showed their promise, now just need to be developed . I said it before , and I will continue to say it . Nothing grows unless it dies 1st . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Straw Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Signing Mike Glennon does nothing to solve the Jets QB woes. Glennon is cat litter on a body that just stepped on an IED. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, Tinstar said: Young wasn't a disaster with the Bucs, but the Bucs was a disaster all by themselves . NFL Franchise QBs are not born, but instead developed . Instability within a franchise is doom for any decent prospect . It's why I still have hope for Hackenberg, who like the 2015 Jets showed their promise, now just need to be developed . I said it before , and I will continue to say it . Nothing grows unless it dies 1st . You asked if either had played, Young did and his numbers were terrible. Also, the Bucs were a disaster with Glennon as well, but fans who don't want to take the time to watch him refuse to acknowledge them. I can't fault you for hoping for Hackenberg. I'm a Jets fan, I hope he wins 10 SB MVP's. However, based on what I saw from him in training camp and pre-season, combined with the Jets hiding him all year, I'm roughly 1% sure he'll be any good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, AFJF said: You asked if either had played, Young did and his numbers were terrible. Also, the Bucs were a disaster with Glennon as well, but fans who don't want to take the time to watch him refuse to acknowledge them. I can't fault you for hoping for Hackenberg. I'm a Jets fan, I hope he wins 10 SB MVP's. However, based on what I saw from him in training camp and pre-season, combined with the Jets hiding him all year, I'm roughly 1% sure he'll be any good. You're 100% right . I change the rules on you and that was my fault . I stand corrected . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CotcheryifyouCan Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 ive only seen a few games of his in the nfl. looked ok. i dont mind this if its not an owswieller/flynn type of deal. like someone stated a show me deal loaded with incentives would be ideal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 5 minutes ago, Tinstar said: You're 100% right . I change the rules on you and that was my fault . I stand corrected . No sweat, I know most people haven't seen much of Glennon and they only know what they read or what other's say, which doesn't always tell the whole story. 1) He has a losing record....yes he does, but wins and losses are a team thing, not one guy. Didn't Aikman go 1-15 once? Can't write off a young QB on a bad team for poor record IMO. 2) He lost his job to Josh McCown...pretty much a load of crap. After playing well as a rookie, Schiano said Glennon was TB's QB of the future, then he got fired and Lovie Smith came in. Before even holding a single practice, he named McCown the starter. There was no job or competition to lose, the job was just handed to McCown by a head coach who thought so little of Glennon that he didn't tell him about the decision. Not to mention, when McCown went down with an injury, Glennon was more productive, but Lovie sent him back to the bench when McCown returned. 3) But the Bucs drafted Jameis, so he must suck...more garbage. As I've said in the forums before, did Drew Brees suck because the Chargers drafted Rivers while he was still on the team? Winston was viewed as the no. 1 QB in the draft and Glennon had been good when he played but was far from entrenched...because a team finds one player who is better than the one they already have, it does not mean the one they have isn't any good. 4) If he was so good, somebody would have wanted him bad enough to trade for him. More false than true if we believe many published reports. Several outlets said teams called the Bucs to make a deal for Glennon, including the Jets. However, Tampa Bay's asking price was a first round pick. Even as a huge Glennon fan, a 1st is a bit much to ask for him. Tampa Bay being greedy does not mean nobody wanted him. If he was so bad, wouldn't the Bucs have been thrilled to get a 2nd or 3rd for him and run away laughing? Why place such a high price tag on "the next Matt Flynn" and get nothing more than a late-round comp pick next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joejet Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, AFJF said: No sweat, I know most people haven't seen much of Glennon and they only know what they read or what other's say, which doesn't always tell the whole story. 1) He has a losing record....yes he does, but wins and losses are a team thing, not one guy. Didn't Aikman go 1-15 once? Can't write off a young QB on a bad team for poor record IMO. 2) He lost his job to Josh McCown...pretty much a load of crap. After playing well as a rookie, Schiano said Glennon was TB's QB of the future, then he got fired and Lovie Smith came in. Before even holding a single practice, he named McCown the starter. There was no job or competition to lose, the job was just handed to McCown by a head coach who thought so little of Glennon that he didn't tell him about the decision. Not to mention, when McCown went down with an injury, Glennon was more productive, but Lovie sent him back to the bench when McCown returned. 3) But the Bucs drafted Jameis, so he must suck...more garbage. As I've said in the forums before, did Drew Brees suck because the Chargers drafted Rivers while he was still on the team? Winston was viewed as the no. 1 QB in the draft and Glennon had been good when he played but was far from entrenched...because a team finds one player who is better than the one they already have, it does not mean the one they have isn't any good. 4) If he was so good, somebody would have wanted him bad enough to trade for him. More false than true if we believe many published reports. Several outlets said teams called the Bucs to make a deal for Glennon, including the Jets. However, Tampa Bay's asking price was a first round pick. Even as a huge Glennon fan, a 1st is a bit much to ask for him. Tampa Bay being greedy does not mean nobody wanted him. If he was so bad, wouldn't the Bucs have been thrilled to get a 2nd or 3rd for him and run away laughing? Why place such a high price tag on "the next Matt Flynn" and get nothing more than a late-round comp pick next season? You need to stop with the logic and reasoning, you are on a Jets fan board. Short burst of he sucks, or something similar to that is expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Im not going to judge Glennon yet but what do the Jets think they are accomplishing if they sign Glennon but bringing in another teams trash who has 0 success in the NFL. Glennon will come cheaper than Taylor and allow them to sign other much needed free agents. If they do sign Glennon I will support him and hope for the best. This move is typical NY Jets, 1000x better than signing the bearded imposter QB. I guess you think the Jets should trade for Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan? How do YOU propose we get a vet QB who is not another team's "trash" (translation: trash = back-up in your simple mind, right?) How do you know Glennon is "trash"? He is sitting behind an overall #1 pick so we don't know anything about how good he is (or not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Yay!! 7-9 here we come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Dcat said: I guess you think the Jets should trade for Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan? How do YOU propose we get a vet QB who is not another team's "trash" (translation: trash = back-up in your simple mind, right?) How do you know Glennon is "trash"? He is sitting behind an overall #1 pick so we don't know anything about how good he is (or not). Draft Sam Darnold. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Goodman Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 I mostly haven't liked Glennon because of Villain's unrelenting, countless posts declaring him to be this unknown, untapped talent. Other than that, he really is someone the Jets should (have to) make an offer to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Dont know how anyone could be against this move. This would be a good move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinstar Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, tfine said: Dont know how anyone could be against this move. This would be a good move. Easy, just show me details of his contract offer . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet Life Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 A big contract for a QB who was benched for Mccown. No thanks. 1 year deal though , sure why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cant wait Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Easy, just show me details of his contract offer . Exactly glennon's tape is okay but this guy has been sitting for a long time now. I'd be cautious if he's asking for an osweiler deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 17 minutes ago, Tinstar said: Easy, just show me details of his contract offer . I highly doubt it will be much. The guy sat for two years. He has no leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, tfine said: I highly doubt it will be much. The guy sat for two years. He has no leverage. The Jets have no QB, that would be his leverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tfine Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 Just now, AFJF said: The Jets have no QB, that would be his leverage. Why? what other team would sign him? Most of the QB needy teams will grab one in the draft. If he comes here he will be our starter. Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASH1962 Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 3 hours ago, joewilly12 said: Another teams backup bench warmer QB let me refrain myself. total y agree, I do not see the infatuation with Glennon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 1 minute ago, tfine said: Why? what other team would sign him? Most of the QB needy teams will grab one in the draft. If he comes here he will be our starter. Day 1 Exactly...starter from day 1. Last season people said Fitz would only get $4 million. Starting QB's don't make $4 million. At the very least, unless they are coming off of an injury, they make $12 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFJF Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, ASH1962 said: total y agree, I do not see the infatuation with Glennon As long as the Jets do, I'm good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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