TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 minute ago, DRJETS said: But you sure get a kick defending these woman beater. Heeeeeeeyooooo! I see what you did there. I get a KICK out of defending the woman beater. I'm not defending him, but go right ahead and keep saying that I do. I'm just making sure that people acknowledge that there was an instigator who assaulted him first. Again, he was wrong. So was she. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peebag Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 This is the most interesting Jets news in weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 20 hours ago, CrazyCarl40 said: This happened in February in Cleveland. Which begs the question, why are you in Cleveland in February? And also, why did it take so long to come out? His entire entourage was trying to hold him back but he just had to lay hands on a woman. Not cool. Police wouldn't release the video til' now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 24 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Personal attack. Thanks. Lol. That isn’t an attack, that is just a statement of my opinion of some of the people here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Lol. That isn’t an attack, that is just a statement my opinion of some of the people here. Forgive me. You made a generalized attack on multiple people based on their opinion. Much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Forgive me. You made a generalized attack on multiple people based on their opinion. Much better. Why so defensive? Feel guilty about something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 16 hours ago, flgreen said: Good grief, does every thread have to have your attack on Macc in it? Yeah. People love easy low hanging fruit. In this case fruit that's on the ground. Plus, ripping him and Bowles is always gonna get you upvoters which is pretty lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Odds are Kareem Hunt will be back. Heck, if Joe Mixon is allowed to play in the league then I don't see why Kareem Hunt won't be. Also, let's not forget Michael Pittman attempted to run over his pregnant wife in 2003 but career continued through 2008. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/02/sports/sp-newswire2 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PittMi00.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Butterfield said: Why so defensive? Feel guilty about something? Wow! I can only laugh at your posts now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Heeeeeeeyooooo! I see what you did there. I get a KICK out of defending the woman beater. I'm not defending him, but go right ahead and keep saying that I do. I'm just making sure that people acknowledge that there was an instigator who assaulted him first. Again, he was wrong. So was she. You are not defending him but keep insisting it was no big deal. Saying she was as much fault as him while she was shoved, pushed to the wall clearly showing cuncussion and then to top it up get knocked down to the floor with a kick after being unresponsive crouching down. Where does it show that she assaulted him first? which second of the video? The first altercation came at the 11 second when he shoved her hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, STLuLu said: Police wouldn't release the video til' now. Police did not release this video. TMZ again making sure this incident do not go under the rug. TMZ just release another video showing the keystone cop giving the girl the go around preventing her from pressing charges, saying basically that it was impossible to get a hand on the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Odds are Kareem Hunt will be back. Heck, if Joe Mixon is allowed to play in the league then I don't see why Kareem Hunt won't be. Also, let's not forget Michael Pittman attempted to run over his pregnant wife in 2003 but career continued through 2008. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/02/sports/sp-newswire2 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PittMi00.htm Lets not forget the NFL were under very lower and difference standard like some fans here in the forum back in 2003. I do remember the outcry and indignation against the NFL after suspending Ray Rice for only 2 games that force the league to even come up with the exempt list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 36 minutes ago, jgb said: Sad but I just want a team that can win some games. Short leash him and give him a shot. So basically you'd root for a team even if they're a bunch of sleaze bags just because they win games? You sound like a Cowboys fan. You should know that it's not taboo to root for a team and also root for individual players on that team as well. Women beaters aren't the kind of players I want on my team nor root for no matter how much better they make the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said: Odds are Kareem Hunt will be back. Heck, if Joe Mixon is allowed to play in the league then I don't see why Kareem Hunt won't be. Also, let's not forget Michael Pittman attempted to run over his pregnant wife in 2003 but career continued through 2008. http://articles.latimes.com/2003/jun/02/sports/sp-newswire2 https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PittMi00.htm Maybe so but never forget the power of video. Words are just words but video showing the act is another level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, DRJETS said: You are not defending him but keep insisting it was no big deal. Saying she was as much fault as him while she was shoved, pushed to the wall clearly showing cuncussion and then to top it up get knocked down to the floor with a kick after being unresponsive crouching down. Where does it show that she assaulted him first? which second of the video? The first altercation came at the 11 second when he shoved her hard. Thank you for being honest and admitting that I'm not defending him. The legal definition of assault is an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. When she got into his face, that was assault. When she struck him, that was battery. She would be on the hook for assault and battery if charges were pressed. Is assault and battery acceptable to you? Just curious. Please show me the quotes where I KEEP INSISTING that it was no big deal. He did worse damage, and he is wrong. She instigated the fight, so she is wrong. Can you tell me why you insist on arguing a point that I did not make? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STLuLu Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, DRJETS said: Police did not release this video. TMZ again making sure this incident do not go under the rug. TMZ just release another video showing the keystone cop giving the girl the go around preventing her from pressing charges, saying basically that it was impossible to get a hand on the video. Of course the police didn't release it to the media. They wouldn't release it to the Chiefs back when it happened until the investigation was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmat321 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Possible this is just another hit job from the Deep State? In all seriousness, he is done. Too high profile, the NFL can’t have it given recent history. Likely will be playing in the XFL or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Thank you for being honest and admitting that I'm not defending him. The legal definition of assault is an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. When she got into his face, that was assault. When she struck him, that was battery. She would be on the hook for assault and battery if charges were pressed. Is assault and battery acceptable to you? Just curious. Please show me the quotes where I KEEP INSISTING that it was no big deal. He did worse damage, and he is wrong. She instigated the fight, so she is wrong. Can you tell me why you insist on arguing a point that I did not make? Watch the tape again with a impartial mind, at least try. Go to my post where I went over the video every second of altercation and it show that Hunt was the aggressor. We can't go the whole day going back and forth. Listen I do understand that standard and values are two different beast. You have your standard and I have my values. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Thank you for being honest and admitting that I'm not defending him. The legal definition of assault is an intentional act by one person that creates an apprehension in another of an imminent harmful or offensive contact. When she got into his face, that was assault. When she struck him, that was battery. She would be on the hook for assault and battery if charges were pressed. Is assault and battery acceptable to you? Just curious. Please show me the quotes where I KEEP INSISTING that it was no big deal. He did worse damage, and he is wrong. She instigated the fight, so she is wrong. Can you tell me why you insist on arguing a point that I did not make? It's the classic straw man tactic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, DRJETS said: Watch the tape again with a impartial mind, at least try. Go to my post where I went over the video every second of altercation and it show that Hunt was the aggressor. We can't go the whole day going back and forth. Listen I do understand that standard and values are two different beast. You have your standard and I have my values. I first watched the video with a biased eye, AGAINST Hunt. After watching it a few times, I realized that she instigated the altercation. How can you possibly say that he was the aggressor? She went at him. You cannot be an aggressor if the other person is approaching you. Again, I am not disputing that he made a bad situation worse. I am not absolving him of anything. I'm just making sure that people know the truth about the altercation. She was asked to leave, and she threw a fit, and attacked Hunt. What he did after that is ALL ON HIM. What part of that makes it look like I am defending him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 minute ago, playtowinthegame said: It's the classic straw man tactic. If "winning" an argument is the objective, introduce straw mans. and red herrings. The best example is asking "Do you beat your wife with a bat or your bare hands?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just watched video. Bunch of people making bad decisions that night. Not just Kareem Hunt. Comparing it to what Ray Rice did is nonsense. Personally as a father of three girls Id be as disappointed in my daughter as I would be mad at him. Of course, I taught my daughters how to defend themselves and how not to be an idiot. Just a bad situation on all sides right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RutgersJetFan Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Of course, I taught my daughters how to defend themselves and how not to be an idiot. Course: How to Defend Yourself and Not Be an Idiot Instructor: Giant, Absurdly Strong Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Bob Kraft paid for the video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Wow! I can only laugh at your posts now. In my experience, women beaters defend women beaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 43 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: I first watched the video with a biased eye, AGAINST Hunt. After watching it a few times, I realized that she instigated the altercation. How can you possibly say that he was the aggressor? She went at him. You cannot be an aggressor if the other person is approaching you. Again, I am not disputing that he made a bad situation worse. I am not absolving him of anything. I'm just making sure that people know the truth about the altercation. She was asked to leave, and she threw a fit, and attacked Hunt. What he did after that is ALL ON HIM. What part of that makes it look like I am defending him? Which second of the video she is charging at him? I just saw her arguing while going forward. She is the one shoved, pushed clearly showing concussion after head first into the wall and then kicked while she is crouching down unresponsive. You saw it the other way around. This dude is violent despicable human being with no character, he was all wrong and also in the other incident where he punched another man in a bar after watching this video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Butterfield said: In my experience, women beaters defend women beaters. In my experience, people who say that women beaters defend women beaters, are women beaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Butterfield said: In my experience, women beaters defend women beaters. Agree 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, DRJETS said: Which second of the video she is charging at him? I just saw her arguing while going forward. She is the one shoved, pushed clearly showing concussion after head first into the wall and then kicked while she is crouching down unresponsive. You saw it the other way around. This dude is violent despicable human being with no character, he was all wrong and also in the other incident where he punched another man in a bar after watching this video. The second of the video where she is charging at him is the part in the video where she charges at him. He shoved her AFTER she charged him. If you want to get into semantics about what is considered "charging", lets change it to rapidly approached in a menacing manner. You can keep bringing up what happens after the part where she assaults and batters him, and I'll re-direct it back to the part where she instigated the altercation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jet_Engine1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Course: How to Defend Yourself and Not Be an Idiot Instructor: Giant, Absurdly Strong Idiot. Dude. I'm standing right here.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: In my experience, people who say that women beaters defend women beaters, are women beaters. Umm, ok. Logic eludes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 21 minutes ago, RutgersJetFan said: Course: How to Defend Yourself and Not Be an Idiot Instructor: Giant, Absurdly Strong Idiot. No incredibly accurate personal attacks please. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNuuFaaolaExperience Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just now, Butterfield said: Umm, ok. Logic eludes you. Ummm, ok. Logic eludes you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butterfield Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Just now, TheNuuFaaolaExperience said: Ummm, ok. Logic eludes you. Wow, so you lose an argument and start playing childish games. Low class all the way around, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, DRJETS said: I am not absolving him of anything. I'm just making sure that people know the truth about the altercation. She was asked to leave, and she threw a fit, and attacked Hunt. and called him a *** to boot is what i read... so, shes defo seeking out some sorta altercation be it verbal or whatever btw, i havent watched the video cos of the Ray Rice one , and I thought, nah, i dont needa see that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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