C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL Jets signing WR Vyncint Smith off Texans' practice squad, Tyron Johnson expected to replace him Vyncint Smith joins Jets active roster, per NFL sources, after displaying speed and big play ability as a rookie with Texans, including TD against Eagles The Texans wanted to keep Smith, per sources, but the opportunity with the Jets was a good one given the injuries they've endured at wide receiver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 do we have another WR injury that hasn't been reported yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 6'3" 4.40 40 By Lance Zierlein NFL Analyst Draft Projection Rounds 6-7 NFL Comparison Laurent Robinson Overview Traits-based prospect with outstanding combination of size, speed, and explosiveness to make a team, but lacking in the fundamentals to contribute early on. Smith should be able to improve his route-work quickly, but improving ball skills and instincts will be a more difficult challenge for whoever takes him on the third day of the draft. Smith's traits could lead him to a role of field-stretcher with underneath routes to complement that role. He's a better athlete than receiver at this point and could take a couple of years to develop. Strengths Impressive combination of size, speed, and explosive traits. Ran a 4.36 forty with a 39.5-inch vertical leap at his pro day. Feet are light and bouncy when side-stepping press and accelerating up the field Timed speed matches tape speed with ability to climb past cornerbacks quickly. Showed ability to create separation and long touchdown opportunities with deep speed. Used as catch-and-run option. Juicy with ability to split defenders and hit the chunk play on slants. Has wiggle to make first responders miss after the catch. Works for positioning and sustain when asked to run block Weaknesses Excessive choppy steps to get into his breaks gives away route intentions. Doesn't always impose his speed on cornerback and force the early retreat for comeback routes. Will need time to fine-tune his routes and acclimate to additional branches on the route tree. Not a natural hands catcher and allows throws to crowd his frame. Ball skills are below average. Takes too long to adjust to off-target deep throws when tracking. Needs to improve win percentage on contested catches down the field Sources Tell Us "You take him and develop him. Hell, I just watched a couple of plays on him today because (the College Director of Scouting) asked me to. I can work with fast and athletic. I can't work with slow and stiff." - NFC WR coach https://www.nfl.com/prospects/vyncint-smith?id=3219534d-4978-1011-ecc9-47e1c07540e5&akmobile=android&akcarrier=other Scouts like Smith’s 6-foot-3 frame and speed, which he has been working on at Velocity in Charlotte. At USC's Pro Day, he also displayed his 39.5-inch vertical jump and a 10-foot-10 broad jump. The biggest question mark on Smith is the competition level he went up against in college, but he is eager to prove he belongs in the NFL. "My ceiling is really high. I'm not raw but I'm not polished. Me being from a small school, I have a lot more to learn to take my game to the next level." Smith got his start in the sport playing flag football in the sixth grade on a military base in Leavenworth, Kan., where his dad was stationed. Vernon Smith was a drill sergeant, and the family moved frequently. Vyncint was born in Germany and lived in Kansas, Georgia and two stints in South Carolina growing up. Smith didn’t get a ton of interest coming out of high school. His dream was to play at South Carolina, which wanted him as a walk-on. He had interest from FCS programs and offers from Division II schools Tusculum and Limestone, which was starting a program. “Sometimes they overlook guys. But it got him motivated,” Summers said. “He is going to prove to people he could go make it at a smaller school. That is what is driving him.” Smith said getting passed over by bigger schools was motivation for him, and he proved that during his time at Limestone. Smith got on the field right away for the Saints and played his final two seasons under Mike Furrey, who played in the NFL for three teams. He credits Furrey, who became the receivers coach for the Bears in January, with helping his development on the field and also reading various coverages. At Limestone, he caught 153 passes for 2,371 yards and 11 TDs. This season, he set career highs in receptions (49) and yards (849) and was a second-team all-conference selection. “He wanted us to be like any Division I receiver out there and challenged us,” Smith said. “He helped me tremendously, breaking down film and defenses. He went through all the defenses so we would see those coverages in the game we would be able to change our routes out there. “That definitely impresses the scouts when I can explain all that in a play.” 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: do we have another WR injury that hasn't been reported yet? They need WRs that can play on the outside besides Anderson....DThomas is questionable at this point and they obviously aren't sold on Malone, yet 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 No Quincy, no Demaryius Thomas. We've got who....Robby, Crowder, Bellamy and Berrios??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Take a chance what else do we have to move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, jetstream23 said: No Quincy, no Demaryius Thomas. We've got who....Robby, Crowder, Bellamy and Berrios??? Berrios looked good as a WR yesterday when the ball went his way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, Barry McCockinner said: Berrios looked good as a WR yesterday when the ball went his way. yes, and adding size/speed with smith. and size with thomas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 The Houston Texans were forced to rely on their undrafted free agent wide receivers down the stretch of the NFL season. Feb 21, 2019 The Houston Texans signed Division II wide receiver Vyncint Smith from Limestone College after the 2018 NFL Draft concluded. At 6-foot-3, Smith was a raw prospect going into the NFL, but he offered intriguing at such physical position. Smith ran a 4.36 40 yard dash in his Pro Day, and it was evident to the coaches and fans throughout training camp and the preseason games. Smith showed his potential in the preseason as a vertical threat, through four preseason games as he had four receptions for 94 receiving yards and a touchdown reception. Although a small sample size in the preseason, he averaged 23.5 yards a reception. His promising preseason allowed him to beat 2016 former third-rounder Braxton Miller. Smith was in a reserve role throughout the majority of the regular season but injuries to Will Fuller and Demaryius Thomas opened up the opportunity for more playing time in the offense. Smith finished the season appearing in 7 games and starting the final game of the regular season. He had five receptions for 91 receiving yards, a touchdown, and averaging 18.2 receiving yards per reception. His inexperience in the NFL kept him from making an impact in the playoffs, but his ability to be a vertical threat in the passing game is an important attribute to have in the NFL. Smith has the upside to be a good backup receiver for Fuller in the passing game. Texans also promoted undrafted wide receiver from USC, Steven Mitchell, to the active roster after Thomas was lost for the season due to an Achilles injury. Mitchell only played in the final game in the regular season against the Jacksonville Jaguars, but had no big plays outside of a pass interference he drew deep in Jaguars territory. Both players are currently under contract and will form part of the Texans 90 man roster as they head into the 2019 NFL offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: do we have another WR injury that hasn't been reported yet? Trenton Cannon injured his ankle is the word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Barry McCockinner Posted September 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, joewilly12 said: Trenton Cannon injured his ankle is the word. makes sense. He probably injured it watching a kickoff fly over his head. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetstream23 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, C Mart said: The Houston Texans were forced to rely on their undrafted free agent wide receivers down the stretch of the NFL season. Feb 21, 2019 The Houston Texans signed Division II wide receiver Vyncint Smith from Limestone College after the 2018 NFL Draft concluded. At 6-foot-3, Smith was a raw prospect going into the NFL, but he offered intriguing at such physical position. Smith ran a 4.36 40 yard dash in his Pro Day, and it was evident to the coaches and fans throughout training camp and the preseason games. Smith showed his potential in the preseason as a vertical threat, through four preseason games as he had four receptions for 94 receiving yards and a touchdown reception. Although a small sample size in the preseason, he averaged 23.5 yards a reception. His promising preseason allowed him to beat 2016 former third-rounder Braxton Miller. Smith was in a reserve role throughout the majority of the regular season but injuries to Will Fuller and Demaryius Thomas opened up the opportunity for more playing time in the offense. Smith finished the season appearing in 7 games and starting the final game of the regular season. He had five receptions for 91 receiving yards, a touchdown, and averaging 18.2 receiving yards per reception. His inexperience in the NFL kept him from making an impact in the playoffs, but his ability to be a vertical threat in the passing game is an important attribute to have in the NFL. Smith has the upside to be a good backup receiver for Fuller in the passing game. Texans also promoted undrafted wide receiver from USC, Steven Mitchell, to the active roster after Thomas was lost for the season due to an Achilles injury. Mitchell only played in the final game in the regular season against the Jacksonville Jaguars, but had no big plays outside of a pass interference he drew deep in Jaguars territory. Both players are currently under contract and will form part of the Texans 90 man roster as they head into the 2019 NFL offseason. oh god...the irony. This will be the second time (and with the second NFL team) that Vyncint Smith gets an opportunity because of a Demaryius Thomas injury. lol Can't make this up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Killa Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, C Mart said: Traits-based prospect with outstanding combination of size, speed, and explosiveness to make a team, but lacking in the fundamentals to contribute early on. Smith should be able to improve his route-work quickly, but improving ball skills and instincts will be a more difficult challenge for whoever takes him on the third day of the draft. Smith's traits could lead him to a role of field-stretcher with underneath routes to complement that role. He's a better athlete than receiver at this point and could take a couple of years to develop. Hines Ward’s first project. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New York Mick Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Does this mean they’re actually planning on throwing the ball down field? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 26 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: do we have another WR injury that hasn't been reported yet? No I think Gase is pissed at the lousy routes the WRs are running. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Just now, The Voice of Reason said: No I think Gase is pissed at the lousy routes the WRs are running. Or we are finally trading Robby Anderson. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Trenton Cannon injured his ankle is the word. Put him on IR... promote Adams, Cut Bellamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice of Reason Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, joewilly12 said: Or we are finally trading Robby Anderson. No, they won't, they need him for Sam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shuler82 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, The Voice of Reason said: No I think Gase is pissed at the lousy routes the WRs are running. Yeah, he’s probably pissed whenever they run routes more than five yards downfield. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MS jets Fan Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Interesting we get Herndon back from suspension I believe after the bye. We have 3 WR on the practice squad so 1 of them might be gone soon. Without depth at the outside opposite Anderson we are done. Crowder is a slot specialist and the experiment did not work. Bellamy has his problems and could be the next guy gone. D Thomas who knows what's going on there but he can run routes but he also lost a step I'm sure. so he is still limited to what he can do and I believe the thought here is depth with more packages in mind to help the offense stretch the field more. Bell can only do so much. offense needs to be more than one man show. The O-Line is what it is they need to get it together real fast or we will be down 8 QBs for the year. Joe D inherited a nightmare problem in that area thank you Mike Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustiniak Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 1 minute ago, MS jets Fan said: Interesting we get Herndon back from suspension I believe after the bye. We have 3 WR on the practice squad so 1 of them might be gone soon. Without depth at the outside opposite Anderson we are done. Crowder is a slot specialist and the experiment did not work. Bellamy has his problems and could be the next guy gone. D Thomas who knows what's going on there but he can run routes but he also lost a step I'm sure. so he is still limited to what he can do and I believe the thought here is depth with more packages in mind to help the offense stretch the field more. Bell can only do so much. offense needs to be more than one man show. The O-Line is what it is they need to get it together real fast or we will be down 8 QBs for the year. Joe D inherited a nightmare problem in that area thank you Mike Mac. probably trying to add speed guys to take the smothering off of anderson to open up the running lanes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joewilly12 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, MS jets Fan said: Interesting we get Herndon back from suspension I believe after the bye. Herndon suspended 4 games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maury77 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Smith seems like a@Paradis signing (that’s a good thing)Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonderboy Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, BurnleyJet said: Take a chance what else do we have to move. Move the team to Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 How Texans receiver Vyncint Smith is working to take ‘the next step’ Aaron Wilson, Houston Chronicle June 3, 2019 The moment wasn’t too big for Texans wide receiver Vyncint Smith when he was asked to deliver in a clutch situation as a rookie. An undrafted free agent from Division II Limestone College who beat the odds to make the 53-man roster, Smith was called into action late in the season when veteran wideout Demaryius Thomas tore his Achilles against the Eagles. It was an emotional experience for Smith, but he maintained his composure. Smith made a diving 35-yard touchdown catch during a comeback attempt that came up short at Philadelphia's Lincoln Financial Field. “Coming in and stepping up after Demaryius went down with his injury, I was a little anxious, not nervous,” Smith said. “I felt I had prepared very well and things went well for personally. I wish we had got the win, of course, but that catch was a confidence-builder.” Now, Smith is hoping to build momentum during organized team activities to earn an increased role this fall. Because the Texans are protective of All-Pro wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins and hold him out of drills and fellow starter Will Fuller is still rehabbing a torn anterior cruciate ligament, Smith has been capitalizing on a bigger workload and opportunities to work with the first-team offense. Smith has made several outstanding catches and is building his timing with quarterback Deshaun Watson. “He’s a guy who has improved mentally, physically, just all-around,” Watson said. “He was able to go through the first season, see Will and Hop go through the things and be able to have an opportunity in the offseason where Will and Hop aren’t out there. "So, he leads the charge, him and Keke (Coutee). He’s been doing a great job. He’s handled every challenge. He’s done a good job for us.” As a rookie, Smith caught five passes for 91 yards and one score. He showed he was capable of making big plays, including a 28-yard reception against the New York Giants. Smith also caught three passes for 28 yards in the regular-season finale win over Jacksonville. This offseason and second NFL season gives Smith a chance to expand his role. “It’s going great,” Smith said. “I seem to be on the right track. That’s all I can ask for. I’m getting a lot of good reps. I feel like it’s a really good opportunity. It's been working in my favor." The Texans didn’t draft a wide receiver. They brought in undrafted free agents Johnnie Dixon and Tyron Johnson to compete with Smith and others. “That builds some confidence,” Smith said. “They have faith in the guys already in the building. All of the guys they brought in look really good.” A year ago, Smith caught the Texans' eye during a workout. With New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick and the majority of the NFL teams watching last spring, Smith ran the 40-yard dash in 4.36 seconds. Smith chose the Texans over several teams, including the Bears, Giants, Seahawks and Bills. The Texans made Smith their prize undrafted free agent, signing him to a three-year, $1.72 million contract that included $35,000 guaranteed through a $10,000 signing bonus and guaranteeing $25,000 of his base salary. Smith wound up making the 53-man roster and remained there for the entire season. “It meant a lot,” Smith said. “It always surprised me. I thought I had a good chance to make the practice squad. When I made the 53-man, it kind of surprised me. They saw the bigger picture in me. I’m forever thankful. It was a big goal to stick all year.” Hopkins has witnessed a lot of improvement from Smith, who frequently quizzes him for tips. “Vyncint has grown tremendously,” Hopkins said. “You saw that throughout the year. He’s asked a lot of questions. He’s still growing. He’s still asking questions.” Catching passes from Watson in stride, Smith has improved his timing with the third-year quarterback. “Deshaun has been showing the confidence he’s got in me at practice,” Smith said. “He’s getting comfortable. We’ve built up a little chemistry. I’m starting to get comfortable and used to his signals, his cadence and how he runs stuff and create a good chemistry.” When Smith isn’t at the Texans’ training facility at NRG Stadium, he puts in extra work with Justin Allen, an official Nike trainer who’s the younger brother of NFL tight end Dwayne Allen. “Vyncint’s athletic ability is off the charts,” Justin Allen said. “He’s one of the fastest players in this league and he’s arguably one of the fastest players on the Texans. It speaks volumes with how fast he is with all the speed they have on offense. The hard work he puts, I think he’s going to be special for them. “He’s been putting in the work to be one of the best. He’ll go to the Texans workouts, take a nap and come in and train with me and go over film, go over route running and hit the field. He has worked hard on foot placement and how to control his body. Most guys with his speed don’t know how to control their body and run crisp routes. He works hard on that.” By putting in extra work, Smith is hoping his dedication will pay off this fall. “It definitely has helped me improve my route running and getting out of my breaks,” Smith said. “I’m running better in small spaces and able to control my feet and understand how it all works and getting off of the line a lot smoother than me. I can understand and identify it and fix it immediately. I’m trying to see wherever I can improve myself. It’s a big year for me to see if I can take the next step.” https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texas-sports-nation/texans/article/How-Texans-receiver-Vyncint-Smith-is-working-to-13925360.php What gets lost when discussing the Texans receiving corps, however, is the fact that they’ve got arguably the best receiving trio in the NFL, with Will Fuller and Keke Coutee at the position as well. This is why it’ll be more difficult for a receiver to make the Texans roster than possibly other teams. Going into camp, Smith was facing an uphill battle, as he’s more of a down-the-field threat, which is essentially the same role former first-round pick Fuller has. Vyncint Smith is returning to the Houston Texans after being released from the 53-man roster. According to a report by Aaron Wilson of the Houston Chronicle, Smith is being added to the practice squad of the team. Having Smith return to the team, even on the practice squad is a very smart move by the Texans. Smith will now be able to spend another season with the Texans, continuing to work on their offensive system, and working on his overall skills to earn a spot back on the 53-man roster. Oh, not to mention the fact that he’s only 23 years old, but like stated before, Smith just happens to play a position at which the Texans are one of the best in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Ok. Im on board with this. But i have to agree. Whats the point of a deep threat when every play is a 3 yard pass? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Bellamy isn't a legit WR. He's an ST dude. Rotating Berrios into the slot and Crowder to non-slot WR was what we saw yesterday, and Crowder really can't function in non-slot WR role. So looking for Q's backup-now-starter WR role. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Hopefully he plays well. Clearly they do not like Burnett at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxAF Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Hopefully he plays well. Clearly they do not like Burnett at all. That’s too bad. I like him and so does Sam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetmech Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 Considering the injuries, they sure didn’t like Burnett even for a week...Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C Mart Posted September 23, 2019 Author Share Posted September 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, johnnysd said: Hopefully he plays well. Clearly they do not like Burnett at all. Different type of WRs..This guy is bigger, faster, can play on the outside, vertical threat...Burnett is a poor man's Crowder. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 35 minutes ago, C Mart said: Different type of WRs..This guy is bigger, faster, can play on the outside, vertical threat...Burnett is a poor man's Crowder. Not true in the slightest. Burnett is NOT a slot receiver. He is a smaller outside receiver. Not a slot. Not his skill set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sec101row23 Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said: makes sense. He probably injured it watching a kickoff fly over his head. Or running straight into the first person he sees coming down to cover the kick off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted September 23, 2019 Share Posted September 23, 2019 The Demarius Thomas move sure looks shrewd about now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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