Losmeister Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 9 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: Sorry, the numbers next to the college, just to the left are the round and pick number merci! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 53 minutes ago, dbatesman said: My only quibble would be Peters. He’s such an injury risk that I’d rather just bring back Beachum. I’ve had a Dupree mancrush since before that draft, and I think he’s steadily improving, to the point that we’d actually be paying for future performance for once. My thinking is Beachum will want too much and Peters, who Douglas knows, will come a lot cheaper as a stopgap starter. Not that we should be pinching pennies at OT, but if the draft plays out like I hope it will, we should/could end up with a future franchise LT. We'll see. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Crusher Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Joe Dogulas has a ton of decisions to make with the roster this offseason. Let's try to help him out, shall we? UFA's to allow to walk LT Kelvin Beachum OT Brandon Shell C Ryan Kalil OLB Brandon Copeland G Tom Compton RB Ty Mongtomery OT Brent Qvale TE Daniel Brown ILB James Burgess ILB Paul Worrilow ILB B.J. Bello UFA's to re-sign WR Robby Anderson: 4 years, $40M with $8M guarantees (Contract comparison: Tyler Boyd, Bengals) OLB Jordan Jenkins: 3 years, $19M with $9M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Kareem Martin, Giants) CB Brian Poole: 3 years, $19M with $7M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Bryce Callahan, Broncos) WR Demaryius Thomas: 1 year, $5.5M with $4M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Danny Amendola, Lions) RB Bilal Powell: 2 years, $4.5M with $2M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Adrian Peterson, Redskins) S Rontez Miles: 2 years, $3.5M with $1.5M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Terrence Brooks, Patriots) ILB Neville Hewitt: 2 years, $3M with $1M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Julian Stanford, Bills) OLB Frankie Luvu: 2 years, $3M with $1M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Aaron Lynch, Bears) P Lac Edwards: 3 years, $7.5M with $2M signing bonus (Contract comparison: Michael Palardy, Panthers) K Sam Ficken: 3 years, $8M with $1.2M signing bonus (Contract comparison: Dustin Hopkins, Redskins) G Alex Lewis: 1 year, $1.8M with $750K in guarantees QB David Fales: 1 year, $800K Key Cuts RG Brian Winters (Cap Savings: $7.3M) Trades Jamal Adams and 5th round pick (from Giants) for 2020 1st round pick (# 21), 2020 3rd round pick (# 85), and 2020 4th round pick (# 127) Key Free Agent Signings OLB Bud Dupree (Steelers) OR OLB Markus Golden (Giants): 4 years, $58M with $16M signing bonus (Contract Comparison: Za'Darius Smith/Melvin Ingram) CB Ronald Darby (Eagles): 5 years, $56M with $20M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Stephon Gilmore/Malcolm Butler/Janoris Jenkins) RG Michael Schofield (Chargers): 4 years, $36M with $18M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Ronald Leary, Broncos) LT Jason Peters (Eagles): 1 year, $9M with $4M in guarantees QB Mike Glennon (Raiders): 2 years, $7M fully guaranteed @Villain The Foe Draft Picks 1.9: OT Andrew Thomas, Georgia OR OT/G Alex Leatherwood, Alabama OR Trade Down 1.21: C Tyler Biadasz, Wisconsin 2.40: CB Jeff Gladney, TCU 3.66: WR Sage Surratt, Wake Forest 3.75: EDGE Darrell Taylor, Tennessee 4.111: G Kevin Jarvis, Michigan State 4.127: OT Yasir Durant, Missouri 5.152: RB Lamical Perine, Florida 6.206: QB Shane Buechele, SMU 2020 Roster entering camp QB: Sam Darnold, Mike Glennon, David Fales, Shane Buechele RB: Le'Veon Bell, Bilal Powell, Trenton Cannon, Lamical Perine, Josh Adams, Jalin Moore WR: Robby Anderson, Jamison Crowder, Demaryius Thomas, Quincy Enunwa, Sage Surratt, Josh Bellamy (ST) TE: Chris Herndon, Ryan Griffin, Trevon Wesco OT: Jason Peters, Andrew Thomas/Alex Leatherwood, Yasir Durant, Chuma Edoga G: Michael Schofield, Alex Lewis, Kevin Jarvis, Connor McDermott C : Tyler Biadasz, Jonotthan Harrison DL: Quinnen Williams, Henry Anderson, Steve McLendon, Nathan Shepherd, Folorunso Fatukai, Kyle Phillips ILB: CJ Mosley, Avery Williamson, Neville Hewitt, Blake Cashman OLB: Bud Dupree/Markus Golden, Jordan Jenkins, Darrell Taylor, Frankie Luvu, Tarell Basham, Harvey Langi CB: Ronald Darby, Brian Poole, Blessuan Austin, Trumaine Johnson, Jeff Gladney, Darryl Roberts, Nate Hairston, Kyron Brown S: Marcus Maye, Rontez Miles, Blake Countess, Matthias Farley K: Sam Ficken P: Lac Edwards KR: Vyncint Smith PR: Braxton Berrios I thought this nonsense would stop once you started having the sex. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guilhermezmc Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I stoped when i saw bud dupree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 10 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said: I stoped when i saw bud dupree What's wrong with Bud Dupree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T0mShane Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jetsfan80 said: Key Free Agent Signings OLB Bud Dupree (Steelers) OR OLB Markus Golden (Giants): 4 years, $58M with $16M signing bonus (Contract Comparison: Za'Darius Smith/Melvin Ingram) CB Ronald Darby (Eagles): 5 years, $56M with $20M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Stephon Gilmore/Malcolm Butler/Janoris Jenkins) RG Michael Schofield (Chargers): 4 years, $36M with $18M in guarantees (Contract comparison: Ronald Leary, Broncos) LT Jason Peters (Eagles): 1 year, $9M with $4M in guarantees QB Mike Glennon (Raiders): Joe Douglas would be dead to me if he did any of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 If a majority of Jets capital (FA money and early draft picks) is spent on Offensive lineman picks, I will be extremely disappointed in Joe Douglas. And, yes the o-line needs to be revamped and a makeover. But, if we cannot expect Joe Douglas to find some "value" at those positions, then I will be extremely worried about his ability to project talent. The one area he SHOULD have greater insight to, more than any other position, is the offensive line. I can understand a 1st round pick on the position. I can understand paying the best FA Tackle in Free Agency. I could not understand both. A good GM should be able to find value. And I say all this without understanding the full FA class and draft class. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pac Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I'd rather read the pages of disclaimers you get when signing up for a new credit card. I'll just assume 95% of your plan is incorrect. Ok 98%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 I like this overall, but if we are trading our one obvious blue chip talent at his position, I want more for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, The Crusher said: I thought this nonsense would stop once you started having the sex. picture from 80's Bach party.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Scott Dierking said: I can understand a 1st round pick on the position. I can understand paying the best FA Tackle in Free Agency. I could not understand both. A good GM should be able to find value. Jason Peters is 38 years old. He'd be a stopgap who Douglas is familiar with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonaldJet Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Any team with Sam Darnold at QB isn’t going to be good. Until the Jets come to their senses and dump him they will stuck in the mud. He’s Blake Bortles 2.0 and will set this franchise back years. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dierking Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: Any team with Sam Darnold at QB isn’t going to be good. Until the Jets come to their senses and dump him they will stuck in the mud. He’s Blake Bortles 2.0 and will set this franchise back years. USC won a Rose Bowl with Sam Darnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: Any team with Sam Darnold at QB isn’t going to be good. Until the Jets come to their senses and dump him they will stuck in the mud. He’s Blake Bortles 2.0 and will set this franchise back years. Can we get rid of this guy already? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 8 minutes ago, RonaldJet said: Any team with Sam Darnold at QB isn’t going to be good. Until the Jets come to their senses and dump him they will stuck in the mud. He’s Blake Bortles 2.0 and will set this franchise back years. Like it or not Sam is getting another year or so. Way too many holes on this roster to try another rookie QB. Not using the weapons excuse but Sam gets another couple seasons as they upgrade the roster like it or not. Set the franchise back years? Back from what? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, JiF said: Can we get rid of this guy already? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 You self-important vaginaphobiac, go back to fapping To Good Housekeeping!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Integrity28 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 18 minutes ago, Pac said: I'd rather read the pages of disclaimers you get when signing up for a new credit card. I'll just assume 95% of your plan is incorrect. Ok 98%. ^^^ Expects is to believe he’s eligible for credit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Integrity28 said: ^^^ Expects is to believe he’s eligible for credit. Pac's plan is to eventually re-sign Jamal Adams for "fair market value" (because if there's anything we know for sure, its that Jamal is humble and will give us a hometown discount) and let Macc's #PlayoffRoster shine. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JustInFudge Posted December 9, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2019 Good effort 80. Dont hate it. That said, I'd be pretty disappointed if we only added 1 new WR this offseason in what might be a historic WR draft class. I'd skip resigning DT and draft 2 WR's. 1 to replace DT and 1 to replace Enunwa as soon as we can get out of that mess. Sam need some dynamic WR's and this is the year to find them. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, slimjasi said: I like this overall, but if we are trading our one obvious blue chip talent at his position, I want more for him Exactly. Dallas already offered a 1st and a 3rd and thankfully we stuck to our guns. At the very least we need a first and second for Adams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jets723 said: Exactly. Dallas already offered a 1st and a 3rd and thankfully we stuck to our guns. At the very least we need a first and second for Adams That would be my minimum asking price. A 1st and a 2nd, particularly if we are trading him to a playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 12 minutes ago, JiF said: Good effort 80. Dont hate it. That said, I'd be pretty disappointed if we only added 1 new WR this offseason in what might be a historic WR draft class. I'd skip resigning DT and draft 2 WR's. 1 to replace DT and 1 to replace Enunwa as soon as we can get out of that mess. Sam need some dynamic WR's and this is the year to find them. Totally agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 So does that actually work out cap wise ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets723 Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, slimjasi said: That would be my minimum asking price. A 1st and a 2nd, particularly if we are trading him to a playoff team. Absolutely. Look I’m not a big Jamal Adams lover personally but there is no way we should trade him unless we are getting multiple high picks. I think the Jets wanted a 1st and two seconds. I would be fine for a first, a second, and maybe a conditional 4th(that becomes a 3rd if he signs a long term deal) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 9, 2019 Author Share Posted December 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, Larz said: So does that actually work out cap wise ? We're projected to start the 2020 offseason with $62.1M in cap space. I have us cutting Winters, which improves that to $69.4M. For our newcomers/re-signings, I'd have the following 2020 salary additions: Bud Dupree/Markus Golden: ~$12M Ronald Darby ~ $9M Robby Anderson: ~$9M Michael Schofield: ~$7M Jason Peters: ~ $7M Jordan Jenkins ~ $6M Brian Poole ~ $6M Demaryius Thomas ~ $3.5M Mike Glennon ~ $3.5M Bilal Powell ~ $2M Lac Edwards ~ $2M Sam Ficken ~ $1.5M Rontez Miles ~ $1.5M Neville Hewitt ~ $1M Alex Lewis ~ $1M David Fales ~ $800K That all totals up to $74M prior to signing our draft picks. But I of course anticipate a bunch more players getting cut who are currently under contract. We also should be able to re-work some current deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted December 9, 2019 Share Posted December 9, 2019 Trumaine Johnsons dead weight so cut him & save the 3 million. DTs gotta go, he was cast off out of Denver for the dropsies & the Pats who are hurting at WR traded him inside their own division to the Jets. Rontez Miles? I think we can find a younger replacement. Same with Powell unless he's already signed? Was his a 1 year contract? Id like to see an Adams trade & use those picks for a LT Andrews? And a stud WR that falls. If we got a #1 & #2 minimum for Adams we'd have 2 seconds & 2 third rounders! Use 1 to target Biadesz in a move UP if he's there at the bottom of the 1st. I'm not a believer in the sh*t against the wall, stay & take your picks Idzik, Macc strategy. Jets need to target players NEED! If we came out of this draft with a LT (Andrews), a Center (Biadesz), a WR (Tee Higgins) with our top picks I'd be esctatic! Obviously free agency changes draft strategy, lets hope Joe Douglas is a great recruiter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Good work. I dont really like any of the FA signings except for possibly Schofield. I am not a fan AT ALL of big ticket FA signings. They literally almost never work out and have gigantic opportunity cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Schroy Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 Interesting stuff. I do think we will picking 6th though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadienJetsFan Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: Trades Jamal Adams and 5th round pick (from Giants) for 2020 1st round pick (# 21), 2020 3rd round pick (# 85), and 2020 4th round pick (# 127) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 On second thought, let's not sign Darby. Who else you got? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerfish Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, slimjasi said: On second thought, let's not sign Darby. Who else you got? Bad time for him to be torched continuously tonight. Very Tru Johnson like. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobR Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Jetsfan80 said: What's wrong with Bud Dupree? I'm not getting the criticism on that player either. By all accounts he is having the best year of his career, fills a need, and is still young. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#27TheDominator Posted December 10, 2019 Share Posted December 10, 2019 You're letting Arthur Maulet walk? He started the only games they looked good and he's an ERFA. I can see he is not a huge part of your plans, but if you're listing Kyron Brown... 10 hours ago, JiF said: Can we get rid of this guy already? Again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetsfan80 Posted December 10, 2019 Author Share Posted December 10, 2019 11 hours ago, #27TheDominator said: You're letting Arthur Maulet walk? He started the only games they looked good and he's an ERFA. I can see he is not a huge part of your plans, but if you're listing Kyron Brown... Again? Sorry, I somehow missed him. I'll add him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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