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Will be one of the most coveted free agents out there. Does Douglas break the bank for him?

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4 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Will be one of the most coveted free agents out there. Does Douglas break the bank for him?

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No, we should only be breaking the bank for offense....

The defense was fine - productive and competitive as is.  

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Just now, johnnysd said:

We should basically NEVER sign any Day0/Day 1 free agents. They never play up to their contract and there is HUGE opportunity cost. It is just not the way to build a franchise, even if you have the cap space to do it. Instead of an $18 million free agent sign 4 $4 million dollar guys.

This. When is the last time a massive contract for a Day 1 FA worked out for anyone? Smart organizations just don't do it.

Granted my desperation for a better offensive line could lead me to make an exception, but it's a pretty obvious no-no. Douglas has a six year deal. No need to get desperate.

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8 minutes ago, UntouchableCrew said:

This. When is the last time a massive contract for a Day 1 FA worked out for anyone? Smart organizations just don't do it.

Granted my desperation for a better offensive line could lead me to make an exception, but it's a pretty obvious no-no. Douglas has a six year deal. No need to get desperate.

Wow I was just thinking this very same thing. I can speak for the NY Jets only and the answer is a resounding none. Can't think of one guy we signed on day 1 that was any good.

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He’s been productive and only 24. Averaged 8 or more sacks every year. 

Wouldn’t be a bad get. 

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No more high priced big-name free agents it never works for the Jets. If they do sign him it would definitely be an improvement and maybe Adams could play his position normal but it just never seems to work. At least he’s young though. I don’t know I’m torn on this one.

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Just now, New York Mick said:

No more high priced big-name free agents it never works for the Jets

Nothing seems to work here. 

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16 minutes ago, Guilhermezmc said:

If he wants a ZaDarius Smith type of deal I would take a flyer on him.

Flyer? 

The Packers are paying ZaDarius Smith $16.5 million a year.

That’s a big commitment.

It’ll probably also take $12-13 million a year to re-sign Jenkins.

If we’re going to make a splash in FA, I’d much rather target guys like Brandon Scherff, Joe Thuney and Jack Conklin. Especially since it’s no given that one of the top OT’s will fall to us at #11.

The defense could certainly use some upgrades at EDGE and CB, but they still finished ranked as a Top 10 unit and that was without guys like Mosley and Williamson.

The offense should take precedent above all else this offseason.

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I'm torn on whether I'd like the Jets to try and sign him.

We all know we need OL and that premium OLmen (specifically OTs) rarely ht the FA market. That makes the position a priority in the draft.

Edge rushers - even though the Jets haven't been able to do it, it seems many teams have been able to find very good pass rushers beyond round 1. If that's the case, then maybe it's best to use a draft pick(s) to find that player instead of FA $.

I agree with the point that some have already made - blockbuster FA deals seem to rarely pay off. I say draft the positions needed (OT, Edge, WR, CB) and hopefully land starters and use the FA $ to build the depth(quality depth)  since we have so few guys under contract next year. Probably spend that money on some of our own guys who got experience this year and played well.

 

 

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Yannick and Costozano are the only 2 players we should try and break the bank for this offseason.

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15 minutes ago, Untouchable said:

Flyer? 

The Packers are paying ZaDarius Smith $16.5 million a year.

That’s a big commitment.

It’ll probably also take $12-13 million a year to re-sign Jenkins.

If we’re going to make a splash in FA, I’d much rather target guys like Brandon Scherff, Joe Thuney and Jack Conklin. Especially since it’s no given that one of the top OT’s will fall to us at #11.

The defense could certainly use some upgrades at EDGE and CB, but they still finished ranked as a Top 10 unit and that was without guys like Mosley and Williamson.

The offense should take precedent above all else this offseason.

Agree with you, I would go all in on offense this offseason, one of the big name offensive lineman should be the number one target.

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58 minutes ago, johnnysd said:

We should basically NEVER sign any Day0/Day 1 free agents. They never play up to their contract and there is HUGE opportunity cost. It is just not the way to build a franchise, even if you have the cap space to do it. Instead of an $18 million free agent sign 4 $4 million dollar guys.

$4mil guys are your average backups now a days. But I agree, avoid the massive tag players and go with the moderate signings ($6-8 mil) on day 2, day 3 and beyond. 

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53 minutes ago, CurtMart said:

$4mil guys are your average backups now a days. But I agree, avoid the massive tag players and go with the moderate signings ($6-8 mil) on day 2, day 3 and beyond. 

So fill the team with more average pass rushers? This defense can be ELITE with more pressure on the QBs. We are soon to have 2 more young QBs in New England & Miami. And you have Josh Allen who we need to pressure & keep in the pocket to rattle him. 

Forget the high CBs (resign Poole & draft another CB) but outside of the ALL OFFENSE mantra, we have to bring in some pass rushers on the edge to make our pass rush more formidable with the return of CJ Mosely next year. 

If we make 2 splashes in free agency, please let it be pass rusher & Oline. It's looking pretty good at 11 that either a LT or Stud WR will be staring us in the face. Someone else mentioned Constonza from Indy for LT. 

With a guy like him on board, depending on how the draft falls, we could be in that Herbert, Fromme spot if they dropped & someone wants to move up but not in the top 10. I would trade back if possible to land a Stud Guard, Center (Biadesz), and a WR or even a back like Ettienne (Bell will be 1 more year & done here).

Trading back in the middle of the 1st & adding more picks in the 2nd & 3rd round (3 third rounders) could be a bonanza of offense. Lot of good WRs are going to be in the 2nd & 3rd round like Jefferson. 

Sign Ngokeou & Constonza. Work that draft JD. 

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1 hour ago, Samtorobby47 said:

He’s been productive and only 24. Averaged 8 or more sacks every year. 

Wouldn’t be a bad get. 

Same as Jordan Jenkins.

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7 minutes ago, Jetster said:

If we make 2 splashes in free agency, please let it be pass rusher & Oline.

This

It's simple, let Jenkins walk and sign this guy. he’s better at getting to the QB than Jenkins. That’s an upgrade.

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6 minutes ago, CanadienJetsFan said:

This

It's simple, let Jenkins walk and sign this guy. he’s better at getting to the QB than Jenkins. That’s an upgrade.

Or we could, ya know, have two pass rushers?

8 minutes ago, Gibby said:

Same as Jordan Jenkins.

He’s not as JAGy as Jenkins, but Id sign both. 

Tho if Matthew Judon gets free, I’d throw my money at him and forget Ngokue. 

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7 minutes ago, Samtorobby47 said:

Or we could, ya know, have two pass rushers?

He’s not as JAGy as Jenkins, but Id sign both. 

Tho if Matthew Judon gets free, I’d throw my money at him and forget Ngokue. 

I doubt that they sign both.

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2 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

Wow I was just thinking this very same thing. I can speak for the NY Jets only and the answer is a resounding none. Can't think of one guy we signed on day 1 that was any good.

Bart Scott?

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I mentioned him in another thread, he should be our number one F.A target.

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3 hours ago, ASH1962 said:

Wow I was just thinking this very same thing. I can speak for the NY Jets only and the answer is a resounding none. Can't think of one guy we signed on day 1 that was any good.

Kevin Mawae ?

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