Fantasy Island Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, The Crusher said: We have to ride or die with Sam until we have to pay him. So next year we need to put some resemblance of an actual NFL roster around him on offense to accurately determine if he is the solution. Simply can’t afford to use a pick on a QB this year because it’s not even close to as much a need as other position are. we need OL, and a OC, and just let crazy eyes play HC. Can't fire him, then ignore him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Can we skip the playoffs and go straight to the Super Bowl? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy Island Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, JiF said: Can we skip the playoffs and go straight to the Super Bowl? Thinking outside the box, I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jetster said: Every year we see teams surprise & make the playoffs. It's about time we're one of them. The schedule is too hard for a sneak-in 6 seed. IMO, the only way into the playoffs in 2020 is to win the division. AFC West and NFC West, 4 long road trips, that's hard on all teams involved. So that means breaking down the door and dominating. Possible, but only if all things break right, especially the draft and FA. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 The Knicks have more recently made the playoffs and made a run than the jets let that sink in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Just now, SAR I said: The schedule is too hard for a sneak-in 6 seed. IMO, the only way into the playoffs in 2020 is to win the division. So that means breaking down the door and dominating. Possible, but only if all things break right, especially the draft and FA. SAR I We won’t make the playoffs next year with Gase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Maxman said: Time and a whole lot of spending money. And patience. To do it right. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Philc1 said: We won’t make the playoffs next year with Gase If we don't make the playoffs it won't be Adam Gase's fault. It'll be on the GM for not giving him the tools he and Gregg need to succeed. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, SAR I said: No, it's the opposite. If you believe that the Jets had the 31st worst offense in the NFL and only finished strong because of weak teams, then you must believe we are years away from the playoffs. Can't have it both ways. Nice try though. SAR I So, how did the Fraud manage to move up in offensive ranking from dead last to 31 after the season ended? Please explain Sar1 or this is another of your many stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, DRJETS said: So, how did the Fraud manage to move up in offensive ranking from dead last to 31 after the season ended? Please explain Sar1 or this is another of your many stories. Typo. Hater. SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Jetster said: Face it Jet fans. We will never see real NFL football until we're back to being contenders. This new NFL is riddled with loser teams going through the motions of another season. Players SAVING themselves for free agency. Remember Robbie Andersons alligator arm impression in Buffalo? Seasons are nothing if your not in the playoffs. Buffalo got the taste & that changes everything. They believe they're on the way to yearly appearance. Just the intensity of these playoff games goes up a notch as players strive for another chance, another game. Watching some of the regular season games in the NFL was like watching preseason football. Sam needs to taste the playoffs! He needs to have that feeling he had when playing big games at USC. There is no other way to ARRIVE in the NFL than to make plays in the biggest games. 10 years. 10 years since one of the greatest upsets I've ever witnessed watching the NY Jets beat the Pats at Gillette. That's like going for 3rd grade to graduation for god sake. There will be no better time for Joe Douglas to turn this team around than right now with the Pats finally teetering, Miami in rebuild & a beatable Buffalo team if we can fix the Oline. Healthy our defense can stand with the Bills offense. We need playoffs THIS YEAR! Sams 3rd year in the league. It's time, no more excuses. I'm one of the fans that believes in Gase & what he's trying to establish here. But another 6-10, 7-9, 8-8 season will crush my enthusiasm. A lot of us older guys are getting tired, and cranky. We have our QB, many, many teams have turned things around in 1 year, why not us? The AFC East is a shell of its once strong past. The Pats have owned it for 20 years. It's f*cking wide open right now & we better be contenders for the Crown. If we fix the Oline and get even 1 really good WR even if we lose Robby, and if even one of our TEs Herndon or Griffin come back healthy we should be 9-7 and contend for the playoffs without even making one move on the D. Obviously they will make a few moves on D since the starters at the end Maulet and Bless surprised, but we need to stockpile there better to be able to play more man coverage and consistently get after QBs even with the pass rushers we have that JD will probably add to as well. Again, no reason with everyone used to the O/D systems we are in now to not be able to have a good chance next year at the playoffs. We need more division that will add to more conference wins and more conference wins to get in with tie breakers. Had we even won the 1st Fins game and Cincy or the 1st Bills game that would not have been enough conference wins as we would have been 6-6 in the conference as opposed to the Titans 7-5. Well even if we had been 9-7 in that case we see the Titans are the best to be in the playoffs for the 6th seed over Jets, Steelers, Raiders, etc. We need to stay above the teams there we beat and that includes the Steelers with Big Ben and even catch up to teams like the Titans since Henry is not going away. What's ironic is I would like to see our top of the league ranked run D against Henry which would be a heck of a matchup since all these playoff teams he has been killing are not as good against the run as the Jets D (2nd against the run) are. (Though NE was 6th an Ravens were 5th against the run and Henry killed them) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, SAR I said: If we don't make the playoffs it won't be Adam Gase's fault. It'll be on the GM for not giving him the tools he and Gregg need to succeed. SAR I Jesus Christ you sound like Manish praising Bowles for going 5-11 every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 17 minutes ago, Fantasy Island said: Thinking outside the box, I like it. Right? Then we don’t have to get back the playoffs. Problem solved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownJetFan Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, The Crusher said: We have to ride or die with Sam until we have to pay him. So next year we need to put some resemblance of an actual NFL roster around him on offense to accurately determine if he is the solution. Simply can’t afford to use a pick on a QB this year because it’s not even close to as much a need as other position are. Sam is our QB even past the 5 year contract. Sometime you have to just stop expecting a completely elite QB and realize you get things as good with Sam as possible and keep going with it. Now this is assuming we start getting to the playoffs with him and he doesn't choke every year in the 1st round of the playoffs like a deer in the head lights like Josh Allen did in the 2nd half of the Texans playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 9 minutes ago, SAR I said: If we don't make the playoffs it won't be Adam Gase's fault. It'll be on the GM for not giving him the tools he and Gregg need to succeed. SAR I Confused. I thought this was a playoff roster when healthy. You think it will get worse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I'd be happy with a competitive season, then playoffs will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apache 51 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, SAR I said: If we don't make the playoffs it won't be Adam Gase's fault. It'll be on the GM for not giving him the tools he and Gregg need to succeed. SAR I So it's the Jimmies and the Joes, not the X's and the O's. Give JD 3 years they will be in the playoffs. I guarantee it, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Year 9 of the true rebuild Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BROOKLYN JET Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Rangers went 54 years between cups. Jets, hold my beer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, BROOKLYN JET said: Rangers went 54 years between cups. Jets, hold my beer... Championship? I’m just hoping for 9-7 and a wildcard It’s been 10 years since we last got to a playoff and Gase is a toxic cancer head coach ask Tannehill, Drake, Parker, Gesicki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsLife Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, SAR I said: I've got the real thing. A few apparently slipped to Marshalls instead of going to Pakistan. SAR I I think you and other buyers of this AFC champions gear jinxed us for the next decade. All that stuff belonged in Pakistan like you said. Do some voodoo chants on said gear so we make the playoffs next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 Every year is different in the NFL. Injuries ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playtowinthegame Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, ChuckkieB said: This. For all of the Gase supporters, you cannot hold up the 6-2 second half like a trophy and then not expect the progression of a winning season and playoff berth in 2020. If we the Jets are really as good as that 6-2 record (I don't think they are), then with a presumably much better roster, they should be a playoff team in 2020. You just can't have it both ways. We've missed the playoffs for far too long. Before we enter the free agency and NFL draft phases of the off-season Christopher Johnson needs to let the front office and coaches know there is a playoff mandate in 2020. No playoffs and they're fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsLife Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Jetster said: Face it Jet fans. We will never see real NFL football until we're back to being contenders. This new NFL is riddled with loser teams going through the motions of another season. Players SAVING themselves for free agency. Remember Robbie Andersons alligator arm impression in Buffalo? Seasons are nothing if your not in the playoffs. Buffalo got the taste & that changes everything. They believe they're on the way to yearly appearance. Just the intensity of these playoff games goes up a notch as players strive for another chance, another game. Watching some of the regular season games in the NFL was like watching preseason football. Sam needs to taste the playoffs! He needs to have that feeling he had when playing big games at USC. There is no other way to ARRIVE in the NFL than to make plays in the biggest games. 10 years. 10 years since one of the greatest upsets I've ever witnessed watching the NY Jets beat the Pats at Gillette. That's like going for 3rd grade to graduation for god sake. There will be no better time for Joe Douglas to turn this team around than right now with the Pats finally teetering, Miami in rebuild & a beatable Buffalo team if we can fix the Oline. Healthy our defense can stand with the Bills offense. We need playoffs THIS YEAR! Sams 3rd year in the league. It's time, no more excuses. I'm one of the fans that believes in Gase & what he's trying to establish here. But another 6-10, 7-9, 8-8 season will crush my enthusiasm. A lot of us older guys are getting tired, and cranky. We have our QB, many, many teams have turned things around in 1 year, why not us? The AFC East is a shell of its once strong past. The Pats have owned it for 20 years. It's f*cking wide open right now & we better be contenders for the Crown. Don't enjoy being the bearer of realistic news, in this case bad news ... but prep to be cranky (hopefully not but ... ): 1) Schedule. As easy as this year's schedule was, next year's is as difficult. This season was a window to, at minimum, claim a wild card berth. Better yet contend for the division and the No. 2 seed like Buffalo did. Alas when Buffalo was 7-1ish contending for the division title we were 1-7 - and poof there went the '19 season window. The 2020 season - no more easy street: NFC West, Chiefs/Chargers/Colts away, if Brady returns then a powerful NE again, twice. Hell even if he doesn't return they still have Belicheat & McDaniels - NE will be a factor. And Buffalo twice which has re-established itself. We could have a second-coming HC, of Andy Reid's offensive prowess combined with Belichick's evil defensive genius - but the number of holes the Jets roster has, 9 wins in '20 won't be easy. And often that's not enough for a WC. 2) Our HC-OC, senor Gase. Until proven otherwise, he's not yet the second coming at HC. We saw plenty of exciting & encouraging moments this past season. Unfortunately we also saw more than a few alarming red flags. Yes o-line sucked, the roster was paper thin due to Macc's ineptitude and thus hamstrung by all the injuries. So Chris Johnson, many in here and elsewhere gave Gase a '19 hall pass. Fair enough: then let's see what Gase does in 2020. Conclusion: all this said the NFL is such a wild, week-to-week league. Some of this year's contenders are next season's pretenders. Seemingly unexpected crazy s--t can and does happen (see: Titans stomping Ravens). If Joe Douglas manages to build a strong o-line and pass rush in one offseason - then the Jets should have a chance to contend for a WC. In which case it'll be on Gase & his staff to have the Jets in WC contention and hopefully better in December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbatesman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Maxman said: On which part the Robby alligator arms thing? About the Jets making the playoffs. Not a fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losmeister Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 5 hours ago, The Crusher said: a stale loaf of bread but you can still make toast. or croutons 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRJETS Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SAR I said: Typo. Hater. SAR I From now on please don’t mess with the numbers. Please when you are going to describe, the fraud’s rankings, just write DEAD LAST, problem solved. Lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crusher Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 19 minutes ago, Losmeister said: or croutons Croutons rare food group I just can;t get into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freestater Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Croutons rare food group I just can;t get into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, The Crusher said: Croutons rare food group I just can;t get into. Yes, give me food stuffs that rip my gums apart. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxman Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dbatesman said: About the Jets making the playoffs. Not a fan I am sorry, I am just trying to follow along. You aren't a fan of Robby Anderson's alligator arms? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetster Posted January 15, 2020 Author Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Warfish said: Robbay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAR I Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Philc1 said: Jesus Christ you sound like Manish praising Bowles for going 5-11 every year You can say what you want about Manish. What isn't allowed is you using the name of Max's savior to personally attack others. Is this clear? SAR I Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warfish Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, SAR I said: You can say what you want about Manish. What isn't allowed is you using the name of Max's savior to personally attack others. Is this clear? SAR I Congratulations on being promoted to Moderator, I hadn't heard the news. Kudos, couldn't have been awarded to a nicer guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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