Jetsfan80 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 https://www.nfl.com/news/van-roten-cam-newton-with-bill-belichick-terrifying-to-think-about Sunday, Jul 12, 2020 08:32 AM Van Roten: Cam Newton with Bill Belichick 'terrifying' to think about From the dog days of life without Tom Brady to the dreams of what may come with Cam Newton have gone the New England Patriots' prospects and offseason. The latter technically began to take shape in March when the Carolina Panthers parted ways with Newton, the longtime face of the franchise and very likely the greatest player in team chronicle. Though hardly an unpredictable move, it still proved stunning to many and could prove pivotal to the Patriots maintaining their winning ways. At least that's how Greg Van Roten – another former Panther and Newton's teammate for five years – sees it. Now a member of the rival New York Jets, Van Roten believes the Panthers may rue the decision to drop Newton and he and his new team might regret it, as well. "I was surprised, but I also saw it coming, if that makes sense," Van Roten said of Newton's release in a recent interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio. "It was one of those situations where you have this talent, you have this franchise quarterback and you're going to release him? Like, to me, that seems like an interesting business decision, because you can replace a coaching staff, you can get a new scouting department, you can get a new business side of football – when it comes to a franchise quarterback – and there's plenty of teams across the league that will attest to it, like, you better be right, because you're mortgaging the next couple of years on that decision. You know, I know Cam had some injury issues in the past, but the guy is a competitor." Van Roten isn't the first to opine that a motivated Newton might well take the field in 2020, looking to move past two years of injury and tumult that came to a most unfitting end to his storied Carolina tenure. While Newton's longtime coach Ron Rivera is now in Washington and Carolina is helmed by first-year coach Matt Rhule, Newton ships up to Boston to find Bill Belichick waiting. Perhaps the greatest coach of all-time, Belichick will welcome a former NFL Most Valuable Player in Newton, who is looking to replace a former multi-time MVP in Brady. If it clicks between the hoodie and the hats, Van Roten isn't looking forward to what becomes – or more realistically stays the same – in the AFC East. "What does he bring to the Patriots?" Van Roten said. "It's definitely terrifying to think if Cam Newton's healthy and he's in Belichick's offense, you know, in my division, it could be a long year for the other teams, because he's a game changer. He came into the league, you know, he's a league MVP, brought a team to the Super Bowl – he's just built differently than a lot of quarterbacks. And he's a headache to game plan for. So when he's healthy, you can stop the run from him, but then you gotta defend the pass. If you can stop the pass, well then you've got to account for the run. So, it's basically, pick one thing and he'll do the other. And then you couple him with Belichick, who only cares about winning and Cam really wants to prove himself, so it's definitely a recipe for disaster for the rest of the league if they can figure it out." Per Van Roten, there's an ominous forecast for Patriots opponents in 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljr Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said: Perhaps the greatest coach of all-time, Belichick ... who is looking to replace a former multi-time MVP in Brady. * * 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Werblin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I totally think BB can revive Newton's career but it comes with big BUT. Newton will have to be a running threat and expose himself to injury. So, the injury question is a big one. Cam is not as durable as he was when he was younger. Also, in addition to avoiding injury Cam's performance will be dictated by the how accurate he happens to be. No one really knows the answer to that question. My money is on Cam not being accurate enough for BB's liking and the Pats going with a multiple QB offense because, face it, BB would like nothing better to make the QB position just another position on the field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNJet Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Agreed. 2 egomaniacs that will butt heads is terrifying to their franchise. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AFCEastFan Posted July 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2020 I've seen this movie before when Chad OchoCinco, Reggie Wayne, Michael Bennett, Albert Haynesworth, and other highly-touted vets came to Foxboro. Don't believe the hype, there is a good chance that Stidham simply beats Newton out in pre-season. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurnleyJet Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, AFCEastFan said: I've seen this movie before when Chad OchoCinco, Reggie Wayne, Michael Bennett, Albert Haynesworth, and other highly-touted vets came to Foxboro. Don't believe the hype, there is a good chance that Stidham simply beats Newton out in pre-season. Well with any bit of luck, it’s about time the Pats fell apart ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southparkcpa Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, AFCEastFan said: I've seen this movie before when Chad OchoCinco, Reggie Wayne, Michael Bennett, Albert Haynesworth, and other highly-touted vets came to Foxboro. Don't believe the hype, there is a good chance that Stidham simply beats Newton out in pre-season. wait til Cam does one of his pressers in drag..... Massachussets will fall off the map. ? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 What is terrifying is the thought that BB will actually be patient with Cam onnce he has one of hia 4 pick games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 So what be the excuse if it ends up like Moss, Revis, Marcellus Bennett, Rodney Harrison and or countless others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: I totally think BB can revive Newton's career but it comes with big BUT. Newton will have to be a running threat and expose himself to injury. So, the injury question is a big one. Cam is not as durable as he was when he was younger. Also, in addition to avoiding injury Cam's performance will be dictated by the how accurate he happens to be. No one really knows the answer to that question. My money is on Cam not being accurate enough for BB's liking and the Pats going with a multiple QB offense because, face it, BB would like nothing better to make the QB position just another position on the field. I think there is close to zero chance of Newton being successful. He has been one of the worst rated QBs over the last 4 years, and his body is breaking down. When you add into that the complete miss fit of character for NE and Belichick I will be shocked if he makes it through TC and if he does likely as just the veteran backup. Reminds me of when Ocho Cinco went there and everyone thought he would be awesome and fell on his face, Randy Moss was just a different level of talent and never really the issue like Newton will be. I hope they play him, he will suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, ghost_in_pads02 said: So what be the excuse if it ends up like Moss, Revis, Marcellus Bennett, Rodney Harrison and or countless others? None of those are physically limited QBs well past their prime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost_in_pads02 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 minutes ago, johnnysd said: None of those are physically limited QBs well past their prime And you know for sure what Cam has In the tank? OOh I forgot. You are a scout and you were there when the patriots were looking at him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetty Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, More Cowbell said: What is terrifying is the thought that BB will actually be patient with Cam onnce he has one of hia 4 pick games. Interesting because Cam Newton has onky thrown 4 interceptions twice in his career, with one being in his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 7 hours ago, Sonny Werblin said: I totally think BB can revive Newton's career but it comes with big BUT. Newton will have to be a running threat and expose himself to injury. So, the injury question is a big one. Cam is not as durable as he was when he was younger. Also, in addition to avoiding injury Cam's performance will be dictated by the how accurate he happens to be. No one really knows the answer to that question. My money is on Cam not being accurate enough for BB's liking and the Pats going with a multiple QB offense because, face it, BB would like nothing better to make the QB position just another position on the field. Cam was a very effective player for several years because of his physical ability. He doesn’t have that anymore and he’s not durable enough to last an entire season anymore even if he’s effective for a couple games None of these running qbs last. Mike Vick only lasted so long because his career was interrupted for 3 years by jail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, ghost_in_pads02 said: And you know for sure what Cam has In the tank? OOh I forgot. You are a scout and you were there when the patriots were looking at him. How many games did Cam play in last year and how good did he look with the most explosive rb in football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philc1 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 6 hours ago, AFCEastFan said: I've seen this movie before when Chad OchoCinco, Reggie Wayne, Michael Bennett, Albert Haynesworth, and other highly-touted vets came to Foxboro. Don't believe the hype, there is a good chance that Stidham simply beats Newton out in pre-season. Belichick signed Newton to deflect attention off his latest slap on the wrist for overt cheating Is it such a coincidence they both happened on the same day? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
More Cowbell Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 33 minutes ago, Young Jetty said: Interesting because Cam Newton has onky thrown 4 interceptions twice in his career, with one being in his rookie year. Are you trying to say Cam doesn't have a turnover problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 NE became a lot less scary when they decided to acquire Newton instead of sticking with Stidham 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyLV Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 13 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said: NE became a lot less scary when they decided to acquire Newton instead of sticking with Stidham Agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggins Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 People don't realize newton had rotator cuff surgery, like Pennington, he has also had several other surgeries and all have taken there toll, if he has a great o line and OC he can be successful, just like any capable QB. He's a pathetic diva as far as his personality goes, just like his head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 F*** them both and Greg Van Roten!!! What a total pussified statement from a new... New York Jet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenbloodblitz Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: NE became a lot less scary when they decided to acquire Newton instead of sticking with Stidham Exactly!! Why don't they just get Mike Vick or Colin Kaepernick LMFAO In my non humble opinion Cam Newton is an injury-prone unreliable diva who would make the first string All Jamal team! Dude does not scare me at all! F*** em' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 There's no reason to worry about any QB with Bill Belichick other than Tom Brady. Sure NE will still be competitive but the dynasty is dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 15 hours ago, AFCEastFan said: I've seen this movie before when Chad OchoCinco, Reggie Wayne, Michael Bennett, Albert Haynesworth, and other highly-touted vets came to Foxboro. Don't believe the hype, there is a good chance that Stidham simply beats Newton out in pre-season. Exactly. I'm not overly worried about Cam with the Pats. Even if he does well there (which I'm not really even expecting), there's going to be a drop-off from the (arguable) GOAT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuscanyTile2 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 1 hour ago, nyjunc said: There's no reason to worry about any QB with Bill Belichick other than Tom Brady. Sure NE will still be competitive but the dynasty is dead. Exactly. They'll be in the mix to win the division but things are different now. Not saying BB can't build the team back up to championship level over the next couple of years but it's no longer a given that they're winning the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slats Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I so don't give a crap about the Patriots. The Jets have to take care of their own business. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 If Cam is healthy then yeah the Pats are the easy favorites for the division as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Matt39 said: If Cam is healthy then yeah the Pats are the easy favorites for the division as usual. No doubt. If Cam is healthy, they're winning 12 games guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kleckineau Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 16 hours ago, southparkcpa said: wait til Cam does one of his pressers in drag..... Massachussets will fall off the map. ? I think its more likely they give Cam his own bathroom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, JiF said: No doubt. If Cam is healthy, they're winning 12 games guaranteed. Cam won as many as 12 games just 2 times in Carolina, BB has never won as many as 12 without Brady. The schedule looks tougher, the talent around the QB still looks mediocre and the D took a hit. A healthy Cam is a top QB, he's still not Brady and a healthy Cam does not guarantee anything other than they will be a playoff caliber team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustInFudge Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, nyjunc said: Cam won as many as 12 games just 2 times in Carolina, BB has never won as many as 12 without Brady. The schedule looks tougher, the talent around the QB still looks mediocre and the D took a hit. A healthy Cam is a top QB, he's still not Brady and a healthy Cam does not guarantee anything other than they will be a playoff caliber team. Healthy Cam = 12 wins guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fltflo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I fear the premature prediction of the demise of the Pats, is greatly exaggerated Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt39 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 22 minutes ago, nyjunc said: Cam won as many as 12 games just 2 times in Carolina, BB has never won as many as 12 without Brady. The schedule looks tougher, the talent around the QB still looks mediocre and the D took a hit. A healthy Cam is a top QB, he's still not Brady and a healthy Cam does not guarantee anything other than they will be a playoff caliber team. The AFC East’s best QB is currently Fitzpatrick. The Pats still have their defense. Nothing is going to change. Brady also wasn’t good last year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 25 minutes ago, Matt39 said: The AFC East’s best QB is currently Fitzpatrick. The Pats still have their defense. Nothing is going to change. Brady also wasn’t good last year. The pats D, which lost maybe their best player, along with the greatest QB of all time and a very easy schedule led them to 12 wins last year. Still not a lot of talent on O, a lesser D, Tigger schedule and a QB who hasn't been healthy for a long time and is coming to a new team with no real offseason. Fitz is not the best QB in the AFC East, he puts up garbage time numbers. He's the same guy as always, puts up numbers when games mean nothing. Sam and Allen are both better. NE should compete for a playoff spot with a healthy Cam, 12 wins are not guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyjunc Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 51 minutes ago, fltflo said: I fear the premature prediction of the demise of the Pats, is greatly exaggerated Sent from my iPhone using JetNation.com mobile app No one thinks the pats are going 4-12 but the dynasty is dead. Stop being scared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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