The Elusive 0-16 Season: Taking a Look at the Remaining Schedule

[Spoot-Face]

Only five teams have gone winless in the NFL, with only two of them going 0-16 (the '08 Lions and '17 Browns). This thread won't be about whether you want them to go 0-16 (full disclosure, I do), but rather how likely you think they could go 0-16, by looking ahead at the schedule ahead and trying to pinpoint which games could surprise and end up in the win column.

 

 

Week 7 vs Bills

Should be an easy loss for us. The only deciding factor I could see to us competing is how healthy we can get in a week. With a returning Darnold, Becton, and Mims (plus Perriman), our offense could see a bump in production. Say what you will about whether Darnold is better than Flacco, outside of the Colts game, the offense with Darnold + Becton did outperform the offense without them (17, 13, 28 points scored with and 0 and 10 points scored without.) Not to mention that Darnold has a knack for playing better after coming in after injury/benching.

Still, this Bills team is a legit Super Bowl contender, with a strong defense, strong supporting cast on offense, plus this isn't the Josh Allen of last year. I don't think they're sweating this game. Fairly sure we lose.

Week 8 @ Chiefs

Yeah, what do you think? We could hire Sean Payton, trade for Bell back, trade for JuJu Smith-Schuster, get 100% healthy with even Mosley coming back, and we're still gonna lose this game. Handedly. I'm supremely confident we lose this game.

Week 9 vs Patriots

This game, surprisingly, is the first game where I'm starting to wonder if we could pull out a win, but this is 100% dependent on where the Patriots are at in the standings. You might think I'm crazy, but bear with me here. Now, I know it's kinda early for this, as a lot could happen with 11 weeks to go, but let's assume that the Bills win the division. As we're sitting now, the two wildcard spots would go to Baltimore (5-1) and Indy (4-2). The Patriots are sitting outside that at 2-3. Should they happen to lose their next two games (49ers and Bills), then they'll be at 2-5 heading into our game with their window for a wildcard spot closing. Keep in mind, they just lost to Denver. Belichick, while a devious, lying, cheating, repugnant, characteristically abrasive, and a probably morally bankrupt sack of sh*t, he is also a pretty smart guy. Almost evil genius level. I have no doubt that he sees the big picture, and if he sees the playoff window closing, I wouldn't put it past him to start thinking about draft order. Theirs and ours. No doubt he'd love to **** with our chances at the #1 pick.

It's still kinda early to count them out of it, though, and if Bill is still in playoff mode, he absolutely destroys us, no matter who the QB is.

Week 10 (Bye Week)

Now, going 0-9 into the bye week would have me feeling pretty confident we're going 0-16 and getting the #1 pick, but what happens this week is absolutely crucial. Do the Johnsons finally pull the trigger and fire Adam Gase, thus galvanizing the players and giving them something to play for? This, in my opinion, would be a mistake, especially going into weeks 11 and 12 which are the last two truly winnable games left on our schedule.

Week 11 @ Chargers

Not having watched the Chargers this season, but going off their current 1-4 record, I may be sweating going into this game, especially if Adam Gase has already been fired. If he's still the head coach, I'd feel more confident about this being a loss. I have heard that their young QB Hebert looks pretty good though, and this Jets team has yet to meet a QB who couldn't beat them. And we are traveling, so that's a detriment/bonus. This game will look a lot clearer once we get closer, but I'm putting this one at 60/40 right now, in favor of a loss. Losing this game would, imo, be a strong indicator of how we'll perform not only in the next game, but for the rest of the season.

Week 12 vs Dolphins

A 0-10 record going into this game should all but portend another loss, but it's still the last remaining possibly winning game left. Much like the week 9 game against the Patriots, a strong factor in this game would be where the Dolphins are at. If fighting for a playoff spot, I could easily see Fitz dominating us en route to what I believe would be his first ever playoff game (still? lol) On the flip side, say they are out of it, or bad Fitz has finally reared his ugly beard, and they send Tua out there to play the rest of the season to build some confidence. This Jets team would probably be the perfect opponent for him to do so. And, doing so, in their case were they just drafted who they think is their guy, may be more beneficial than just losing out. Besides, they have Houston's first rounder, too. Again, about a 60/40 split in favor of us loosing.

Week 13, 14, 15, 16

At this point, an 0-11 record would all but guarantee a sweep in the next 4 games (vs Raiders, @ Seahawks, @ Rams, vs Browns). Our team is completely demoralized, and has nothing to play for. If we couldn't win Weeks 11 and 12, with or without Gase, I don't see these 4 games as possibly winnable.

Week 17 @ Patriots

Week 17; the final game against the Patriots. This is a wildcard game, much like the first against them, but by this point we will know if Bill Belichick has anything to play for, whether that be getting into the playoffs, or a higher, more favorable seed. If neither of those outcomes are in play, than I absolutely see Belichick pulling his starters and having his team come out flat against us to **** us out of Trevor Lawrence and the #1 pick. For this reason, I am -- and I never thought I'd say this -- rooting for the Patriots to be in playoff contention. I want Bill to want to win -- nay, I want him to need to win this game, because if he does, then this Jets team can't stop him, and a 0-16 record is in our hands. Rejoice, or vomit, the choice is yours!

 

tl;dr

Possibly winnable games: Wk11 @ Chargers, Wk12 v Dolphins

Wildcard games: Both Wk9 & Wk17 against Patriots, contingent on Belichick's motives

For those who want to tank: rooting for Patriots and Dolphins to push for playoffs to give them a reason for beating us late in the season

[Jet Life]

Chargers have looked good even at 1-4 and having to travel out west for it I think we get blown out. Only concerns I have is Miami and Patriots week 17 if they are in a position to lay down for us 

[ljr]

agree @ Chargers and home vs Dolphins are the 2 games with the greatest chance of W's

I also feel home vs Cleveland should be there as well, ... Baker performance will be a wildcard too

[peebag]

Are you guys nuts?
 

0-16 is happening.  It's been very obvious since the 1st half of the Bills game.

[Skeet Ulrich]

To go 0-16 requires not only a bad team but unlucky as well. That 0-16 Cleveland team could've won 6 games if they had a couple balls bounce in a different direction.

I think the Jets win 2 games this year. 

 

[Spoot-Face]

2 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

Chargers have looked good even at 1-4 and having to travel out west for it I think we get blown out. Only concerns I have is Miami and Patriots week 17 if they are in a position to lay down for us 

Yeah, granted I haven't really watched the Chargers, and looking at their losses they've all been by one possession, so their record is probably deceptive. The travel does work against us, too. Between now and then, they've got games against: Jags, Broncos, Raiders, Dolphins, so I could see them picking up a few solid wins.

Yes, I'm still concerned about the Miami and Pats games.

[jeremy2020]

Dolphins, Chargers, Rams, Raiders, Browns are the riskiest games. Those teams are all capable or self destructing. 

However, none of them on the level of the Jets so it's still a pretty safe bet.

I think the real worry is a lottery, Trevor opting out, Jets getting the pick and taking a defensive tackle

Just now, Skeet Ulrich said:

To go 0-16 requires not only a bad team but unlucky as well. That 0-16 Cleveland team could've won 6 games if they had a couple balls bounce in a different direction.

I think the Jets win 2 games this year. 

The Jets are doing it all through skill. No luck involved. 

[Rhg1084]

9 minutes ago, Jet Life said:

Chargers have looked good even at 1-4 and having to travel out west for it I think we get blown out. Only concerns I have is Miami and Patriots week 17 if they are in a position to lay down for us 

Looks like the Pats will be fighting for a playoff spot 

[KINGDIRK]

If we are 0-15 going into the final week and say Jax is 1-14 with SOS tie breaker over us....Darnold sits and the 4th round QB plays. Period end of story. 

[Mogglez]

How it’s gonna feel tuning in every Sunday to watch this sh*tshow of a team for 10 more weeks:

[Spoot-Face]

3 minutes ago, ljr said:

agree @ Chargers and home vs Dolphins are the 2 games with the greatest chance of W's

I also feel home vs Cleveland should be there as well, ... Baker performance will be a wildcard too

With their 4 wins they've beaten: Bengals, WFT, Cowboys, Indy, with Indy being only the good team, albeit a team that embarrassed us, so the Browns shouldn't have much trouble against us.

I really think that who is coaching us will be the biggest factor of how many games we win the rest of the season. That's why I really don't' want to see Gase fired yet.

[Spoot-Face]

6 minutes ago, peebag said:

Are you guys nuts?
 

0-16 is happening.  It's been very obvious since the 1st half of the Bills game.

If only I had your confidence.

[Spoot-Face]

6 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said:

To go 0-16 requires not only a bad team but unlucky as well. That 0-16 Cleveland team could've won 6 games if they had a couple balls bounce in a different direction.

I think the Jets win 2 games this year. 

 

Exactly. That's precisely why I wanted to look into the schedule and try to find which games would be the likeliest to eke out an unexpected win.

[Spoot-Face]

8 minutes ago, jeremy2020 said:

I think the real worry is a lottery, Trevor opting out, Jets getting the pick and taking a defensive tackle

The first part is a legitimate worry of mine. I don't think Trevor will opt out, and I don't think we'll take a DT, lol. Joey D would probably need bodyguards if the last one happened, lol.

[TokyoJetsFan]

I agree with your scenario except belichick will never let the Jets win.  He will probably be more motivated to kicking our ass with Trevor Lawrence. 

[Spoot-Face]

9 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said:

Looks like the Pats will be fighting for a playoff spot 

A lot could happen in 11 weeks, but as of now they are outside looking in. I mean, they just lost to Denver. I honestly think Belichick starts looking to the draft vs trying to eke out 1 extra win to sneak into the playoffs before most coaches. He won't fight to go 8-8 for "morale".

[Spoot-Face]

11 minutes ago, KINGDIRK said:

If we are 0-15 going into the final week and say Jax is 1-14 with SOS tie breaker over us....Darnold sits and the 4th round QB plays. Period end of story. 

Couldn't we just play the wildcat for the entire game?

[Spoot-Face]

9 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

How it’s gonna feel tuning in every Sunday to watch this sh*tshow of a team for 10 more weeks:

 

No, that piano is actually quite relaxing.

[Spoot-Face]

4 minutes ago, TokyoJetsFan said:

I agree with your scenario except belichick will never let the Jets win.  He will probably be more motivated to kicking our ass with Trevor Lawrence. 

I don't know about that. I don't think Belichick is the type that relishes the honor of beating a worthy opponent . He just wants to win. Period. That's why he cheats. Especially now after he's seen that life without Tom Brady isn't as swell as he thought it'd be.

Unless of course, he's more selfish than I thought and will retire after the season and won't give a sh*t about the Patriots after he's gone, or whether or not the Jets get Trevor Lawrence.

[Skeet Ulrich]

13 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Exactly. That's precisely why I wanted to look into the schedule and try to find which games would be the likeliest to eke out an unexpected win.

It's really hard to find a win on the schedule, I must admit. I know for a fact there's one or two games they'll surprise and play close. Maybe Vegas and the Dolphins

[Spoot-Face]

1 minute ago, Skeet Ulrich said:

It's really hard to find a win on the schedule, I must admit. I know for a fact there's one or two games they'll surprise and play close. Maybe Vegas and the Dolphins

FYI, the Raiders beat KC 40-32.

[Icer]

3 Wild Card teams this year, not 2. It favors us big time in those fringe games against New England, Las Vegas, and Cleveland--they will all be in the hunt for those Wild Card berths even at 8-8.

I'm most afraid of a Fitz implosion, or Las Vegas forgetting to get off the plane on an East Coast trip (which they did last year, and kind of already did against NE). The games on the West Coast we will get dunked on. This team has a very strong shot at 0-16 even if Gase gets canned.

[Spoot-Face]

3 minutes ago, Icer said:

3 Wild Card teams this year, not 2. It favors us big time in those fringe games against New England, Las Vegas, and Cleveland--they will all be in the hunt for those Wild Card berths even at 8-8.

I'm most afraid of a Fitz implosion, or Las Vegas forgetting to get off the plane on an East Coast trip (which they did last year, and kind of already did against NE). The games on the West Coast we will get dunked on. This team has a very strong shot at 0-16 even if Gase gets canned.

Oh, yeah! For some reason I was thinking that wouldn't come into effect until next season, so that definitely helps things, from my point of view.

[SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN]

40 minutes ago, Mogglez said:

How it’s gonna feel tuning in every Sunday to watch this sh*tshow of a team for 10 more weeks:

 

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[Mogglez]

7 minutes ago, SAM SAM HE'S OUR MAN said:

Game of a lifetime, don’t @ me.

Seriously.

[Pac]

If its 1st pick Trevor it is.

Even if they do somehow luck into a win or 2 my hope is remaining in top 3 picks.  If they don't get Trevor we are keeping Darnold but could trade the 2nd or 3rd pick for a kings ransom to qb needy team.

I still think Darnold can be solid with help but 99 percent of pundits keep saying they HAVE to take Lawrence if they can.

I'm cool with either scenario and am confident this team has what it takes to lose 14-16 games.

[Jetsfan80]

54 minutes ago, Skeet Ulrich said:

To go 0-16 requires not only a bad team but unlucky as well. That 0-16 Cleveland team could've won 6 games if they had a couple balls bounce in a different direction.

I think the Jets win 2 games this year. 

 

That 0-16 Browns team wasn't even one of the 3 worst teams in Browns history.  That 0-16 Browns team wasn't in the same universe of suckage as the 2020 Jets.  

This Jets team is right up there with the '76 Buccaneers for one of the 2 worst NFL teams of all-time.  There have been no "balls bouncing differently" because we've only lost blowots, sans the Denver game.  That trend should continue every week.  If we end up in a close game I'll start to worry.  But if we couldn't keep it within 7 against a Denver team with their 3rd string QB under center, chances are good we'll continue to get blown out and we will have little to worry about.

[Warfish]

How pathetic are we, rooting to literally be HISTORICALLY bad in order to chase some pipedream "savior" despite knowing from actual lived experience that no draft-pick QB is a savior.

F'n hell you are are an embarrassment as a fanbase.  No pride of any kind.

Losing begets more losing, not saviors.

[jetstream23]

Kinda feels like we should put a bottle of champagne on ice like the '72 Dolphins do each year waiting for a team to lose so that their perfect season record stays intact.

Maybe we each put a special adult beverage in the back of the fridge only to be opened at the end of that 16th loss? lol

[joewilly12]

0-16 looks like this. 

[Skeet Ulrich]

2 minutes ago, Jetsfan80 said:

That 0-16 Browns team wasn't even one of the 3 worst teams in Browns history.  That 0-16 Browns team wasn't in the same universe of suckage as the 2020 Jets.  

This Jets team is right up there with the '76 Buccaneers for one of the 2 worst NFL teams of all-time.  There have been no "balls bouncing differently" because we've only lost blowots, sans the Denver game.  That trend should continue every week.  If we end up in a close game I'll start to worry.  But if we couldn't keep it within 7 against a Denver team with their 3rd string QB under center, chances are good we'll continue to get blown out and we will have little to worry about.

Even the 76 Bucs played a couple of close games. I think the Jets will play a couple of close games and be right down to the wire in a couple of these contests.

[Spoot-Face]

8 minutes ago, Warfish said:

How pathetic are we, rooting to literally be HISTORICALLY bad in order to chase some pipedream "savior" despite knowing from actual lived experience that no draft-pick QB is a savior.

F'n hell you are are an embarrassment as a fanbase.  No pride of any kind.

Losing begets more losing, not saviors.

Cool. You don't like rooting for losses. We already know. Good for you.

But that's not what this is about.

Out of the remaining games, are there any you see that we could win? I'm curious to know.

[Jetsfan80]

4 minutes ago, Spoot-Face said:

Cool. You don't like rooting for losses. We already know. Good for you.

But that's not what this is about.

Out of the remaining games, are there any you see that we could win? I'm curious to know.

IT'S ALL THE FANS' FAULT

[Spoot-Face]

Just now, Jetsfan80 said:

IT'S ALL THE FANS' FAULT

UnitedWarFish?

[Jetsfan80]

15 minutes ago, Warfish said:

How pathetic are we, rooting to literally be HISTORICALLY bad in order to chase some pipedream "savior" despite knowing from actual lived experience that no draft-pick QB is a savior.

F'n hell you are are an embarrassment as a fanbase.  No pride of any kind.

Losing begets more losing, not saviors.