PS17 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 59 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said: LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: Lol you just listed some impressive numbers so why’s that a hard pass? Trending the wrong direction and won’t be worth the contract. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, Larz said: Trending the wrong direction and won’t be worth the contract. Any contract with Hopkins is $10M cheaper than it appears because will result in moving Corey Davis. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barton Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 jets should be all over this. Doubt they are though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSNY Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Let him go to the Bills as he’s a player on the decline Sauce and DJ can cover him one on one and will effectively take him out of the game same as they did to Diggs in the second half of the victory over Buffalo One less Bills offensive player to be concerned with 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhg1084 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 34 minutes ago, Larz said: Trending the wrong direction and won’t be worth the contract. You don’t even know what the contract would be? And he averaged 80 yards a game last year and is a one time superstar. He’d be the perfect compliment to GW and a clear upgrade over Corey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe W. Namath Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, CSNY said: Let him go to the Bills as he’s a player on the decline Sauce and DJ can cover him one on one and will effectively take him out of the game same as they did to Diggs in the second half of the victory over Buffalo One less Bills offensive player to be concerned with Agree 100%. Great post buddy!!!! 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jgb Posted May 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2023 8 minutes ago, CSNY said: Let him go to the Bills as he’s a player on the decline Sauce and DJ can cover him one on one and will effectively take him out of the game same as they did to Diggs in the second half of the victory over Buffalo One less Bills offensive player to be concerned with Player on the decline... Yeah ok we have a 39 y.o. QB now. It's not about what the peak was, but what the present is. Big upgrade over Corey Davis. Analysis complete. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgb Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Just now, Joe W. Namath said: Agree 100%. Great post buddy!!!! Hopkins for OPOTY. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 3 hours ago, PS17 said: This is an excellent bounce pass JWill to CWebb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I imagine his contract will be based on the team he’s going to. I think he goes to BUG and they have very little cap space. So he likely takes less to go there. He chooses NE… then he will likely be chasing money not a ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rhg1084 said: You don’t even know what the contract would be? And he averaged 80 yards a game last year and is a one time superstar. He’d be the perfect compliment to GW and a clear upgrade over Corey. That was true 4 years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Sarge4Tide said: So what, you're their all time best seller! The next retort is indecent, but...you know. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sperm Edwards Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 hours ago, slimjasi said: Yes, but well within the “jets are obviously getting Rodgers” timeframe. Also his QB list is his "top 5" not an "I don't want to play with anyone other than these 5" list. tbh, like I said in another post, he'd be welcome but we really don't need him, plus his time as a WR1 might be even shorter than Rodgers as a top 10 QB. Regardless, a team like KC seems a more obvious fit than the Jets. I'd include Baltimore also, but they did just fork over a bunch for OBJ. The advantage the Jets have - just purely money-wise - is he's only the incremental above Davis, whose $10.5MM would clear less than 2 seconds after a signing like this. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doitny Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 5 hours ago, LAD_Brooklyn said: this makes sense. he is probably looking for a 2 -3 year deal. all those QBs mentioned will be on those teams for YEARS! Rodgers? maybe one, with two years being the most. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FidelioJet Posted May 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2023 4 hours ago, undertow said: You haven't been happy since Zippy was running around in circles throwing balls into the dirt. I just think Joe's having a really rough off-season. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larz Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 Screw him. He doesn’t want to be here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KINGDIRK Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 He’s trending down but the way we are set up, maybe a 3 year deal when in reality it’s only a 2 year deal? Slight overpay but Wilson/Hopkins/Lazard/Hardman/Cobb. We could worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 35 minutes ago, Sperm Edwards said: Also his QB list is his "top 5" not an "I don't want to play with anyone other than these 5" list. tbh, like I said in another post, he'd be welcome but we really don't need him, plus his time as a WR1 might be even shorter than Rodgers as a top 10 QB. Regardless, a team like KC seems a more obvious fit than the Jets. I'd include Baltimore also, but they did just fork over a bunch for OBJ. The advantage the Jets have - just purely money-wise - is he's only the incremental above Davis, whose $10.5MM would clear less than 2 seconds after a signing like this. For me the bigger thing making me think he’s not coming, was when he had to give the response without words when certain teams came up several weeks ago. And he didn’t seem at all excited when the Jets came up. I know that was before Rodgers was officially a Jet. But it was assumed by most he would be a Jet. I’d feel different about that response if when he listed his top 5 QBs he’d like to play with and Rodgers was one of them. But he wasn’t. It will be interesting to see if we do even have interest in him. We know AR is all in. And know he did reach out to a couple of FAs before he was even officially a Jet to come here. So I do wonder if AR puts a text or call out to Hopkins saying let’s go get a ring together to him. All that being said… I still have him going to BUF. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thebuzzardman Posted May 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2023 SIGN THIS DISINTERESTED BEAST! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Untouchable Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I’d honestly rather just stick with Davis at this point and let him play out his contract. Davis isn’t a #1 or even a high end #2, but we’re not going to be relying on him as anything more than the 4th or 5th option in the passing game this year. Guys like Wilson, Lazard, Conklin and maybe even Hardman/Breece are going to end up catching more balls than him barring injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimjasi Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said: Also his QB list is his "top 5" not an "I don't want to play with anyone other than these 5" list. tbh, like I said in another post, he'd be welcome but we really don't need him, plus his time as a WR1 might be even shorter than Rodgers as a top 10 QB. Regardless, a team like KC seems a more obvious fit than the Jets. I'd include Baltimore also, but they did just fork over a bunch for OBJ. The advantage the Jets have - just purely money-wise - is he's only the incremental above Davis, whose $10.5MM would clear less than 2 seconds after a signing like this. I would guess bills or chiefs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: That was before the Rodgers trade 7 hours ago, GangGreened said: It was before it was official right? I thought he said he didn’t want to play here pretty recently, like when the deal was being “finalized” You're correct. He made those comments well into the "Rodgers to Jets is done" nonsense. It was a month after the McAfee interview. Between the Texans and Cardnials, I'm sure he wants to play for a superbowl contender. Like someone said; Chiefs, Bills... Maybe Philly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 How is his run blocking? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelScott Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 hours ago, Sperm Edwards said: Nope. I thought it was even earlier, but looking it up now he said that on April 16h. https://nypost.com/2023/04/16/deandre-hopkins-doesnt-want-raise-and-doesnt-want-jets-trade/ The trade for Rodgers was on April 24th. Wasn't the McAfee interview early/mid March? It was a certainty Rodgers was coming here when he said he wasn't interested in the Jets. The only thing unanswered was how much the Jets were going to get bent over, which has nothing to do with Hopkins. You mentioned not wanting to come here after Hou and Ari because of the weather. I think you're right that spending his career on those teams is a reason he doesn't want to play for the Jets - but I think it's that he's 31 and wants to play for a Superbowl contender, not because of the weather. There was a tweet with his list of top QBs, Rodgers wasn't on it. I'd think if he was even remotely interested in the Jets it would be to his advantage to dangle that out there to get another team involved to drive up his price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hex Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 I don't understand all the hype for him. He was good a few years ago when he got traded from the Texans for almost nothing. He's missed 15 games in the last 2 seasons, and his production has fallen off a little. Sure, he's better than many other players, but the Jets don't have the space for a 31 year old who doesn't even want to play here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdeet Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Hex said: I don't understand all the hype for him. He was good a few years ago when he got traded from the Texans for almost nothing. He's missed 15 games in the last 2 seasons, and his production has fallen off a little. Sure, he's better than many other players, but the Jets don't have the space for a 31 year old who doesn't even want to play here. Corey Davis isn’t in his stratosphere as a WR. So yeah, we have the space. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenseed4 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, Hex said: I don't understand all the hype for him. He was good a few years ago when he got traded from the Texans for almost nothing. He's missed 15 games in the last 2 seasons, and his production has fallen off a little. Sure, he's better than many other players, but the Jets don't have the space for a 31 year old who doesn't even want to play here. Not for nothing, but half those missed games were due to suspension, so it’s not like he’s overly injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPPT1974 Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Wonder if he will look for a team there that is a winning one? As he will likely sign a one year deal. Question is if he will take less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Jdeet said: Corey Davis isn’t in his stratosphere as a WR. So yeah, we have the space. He's not going to sign here though. He doesn't want to play here. He's made that clear. The Jets weren't going to have a shot at him besides a trade, and at that point he definitely isn't worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 56 minutes ago, Hex said: I don't understand all the hype for him. He was good a few years ago when he got traded from the Texans for almost nothing. He's missed 15 games in the last 2 seasons, and his production has fallen off a little. Sure, he's better than many other players, but the Jets don't have the space for a 31 year old who doesn't even want to play here. why are we pretending like DeAndre Hopkins isn't good? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 If you're going to go big, go for Adams if he's vaailable. He's gonna cost more, but he's way above Hopkins in terms of production and already has relationships with the QB, OC and multiple players in the WR room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hex Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 minute ago, Barry McCockinner said: why are we pretending like DeAndre Hopkins isn't good? I amend my previous post. Many portray him to be still at the level he was 3 years ago, which isn't the case. He's still good, but he's not worth the price anymore. Plus, I would argue that isn't even the main issue here. If you want to, just disregard the who 'he's not as good as he used to be' argument. He doesn't want to come here, and he'll sign with a different AFC rival. Almost for sure. In the off chance he signs here because no other teams wanted him, he'll be unmotivated and he definitely won't be as good as he used to be. I just don't get the hype for a guy that clearly isn't interested in the Jets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry McCockinner Posted May 27, 2023 Author Share Posted May 27, 2023 Just now, Hex said: I amend my previous post. Many portray him to be still at the level he was 3 years ago, which isn't the case. He's still good, but he's not worth the price anymore. Plus, I would argue that isn't even the main issue here. If you want to, just disregard the who 'he's not as good as he used to be' argument. He doesn't want to come here, and he'll sign with a different AFC rival. Almost for sure. In the off chance he signs here because no other teams wanted him, he'll be unmotivated and he definitely won't be as good as he used to be. I just don't get the hype for a guy that clearly isn't interested in the Jets. He'd be a very clear upgrade over Corey Davis. I think the Jets meet the three criteria he recently put out for what he wants in his next team. Maybe a chat with Aaron Rodgers would open his mind. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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