Soft Gardner tweeting out his “stats” after an embarrassing loss again

[playtowinthegame]

2 hours ago, Charlie Brown said:

Thank you... A young guy who is one of the best in the league, certainly one of the best on the Jets, says so, and some of us have a problem with it, calling him "soft" ....

Good Grief!  

 

This thread is soft. 

[GangGreened]

Since Week 3, Gardner has allowed just 18 catches for 150 yards and zero touchdowns. That's an average of 1.5 catches and 12.5 yards per game.
 

I’ll take it

[Matt39]

Just now, GangGreened said:

Since Week 3, Gardner has allowed just 18 catches for 150 yards and zero touchdowns. That's an average of 1.5 catches and 12.5 yards per game.
 

I’ll take it

He gave up a touchdown to Shakir on the Bills. 

[neckdemon]

1 hour ago, Matt39 said:

We already know Saleh is coming back. They’re not tweaking the defense. These guys aren’t brains like Belichick. I honestly don’t believe Saleh and Ulrixh have the capability of doing anything really beyond playing a Tampa 2. Sauce was likely a Woody pick anyways as he isn’t a scheme fit at 4 overall. 

even so, highy unlikely they trade sauce. and they will likely be gone by 2025

[neckdemon]

2 minutes ago, Matt39 said:

He gave up a touchdown to Shakir on the Bills. 

shouldn't have even been a td. kincaid knocked gardner down from behind. that should have been flagged. if not gardner makes the tackle

[GreenFish]

26 minutes ago, RoadFan said:

Sauce is a more likeable guy and an exceptional cover corner.   That said, Revis was a great tackler.  Sauce occasionally doesn’t even attempt to make the tackle.

Revis was definitely the better overall player. He had no weaknesses.

Sauce is an elite cover corner though. Some are suggesting we trade him because of his tackling. That’s crazy. He does his main job at an elite level.

Was Prime known for his tackling? 

[hmhertz]

6 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Revis was definitely the better overall player. He had no weaknesses.

Sauce is an elite cover corner though. Some are suggesting we trade him because of his tackling. That’s crazy. He does his main job at an elite level.

Was Prime known for his tackling? 

Revis problem was he was the most selfish person to ever walk the earth.

How can you build a team with the cap when one guy is interested in

grabbing every buck, Players like Brady, Rodgers, Mahomed and even

Danny Dimes , didn't try to grab every nickel so management could build their

team. In 2015 he became a fat greedy bastid and let Sammy Watkins run

wild extinguishing our last chance at the playoffs

[JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF]

5 hours ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

Gardner can BLANKET a receiver while that receiver is putting on 57 moves on his route.  I think he’s even better at that than Revis was in his prime.  Opposing offenses virtually NEVER throw to his side, why the Jets don’t loosen up and let him man up against the very best receiver the opposition puts out there that day I don’t know, what I do know is that he’s already probably the #1 CB in the NFL right now.

 

[Matt39]

29 minutes ago, GreenFish said:

Revis was definitely the better overall player. He had no weaknesses.

Sauce is an elite cover corner though. Some are suggesting we trade him because of his tackling. That’s crazy. He does his main job at an elite level.

Was Prime known for his tackling? 

Prime had the uncanny ability to bait QBs to throw his way and also picked off the ball. Deion also was one of the best PR/KR of all time. People took the tackling because he generated turnovers, blanketed receivers and scored touchdowns. 

[Dcat]

4 hours ago, Maxman said:

I see what you are saying now. This is a statement more about them not using Sauce to his full capacity as a shut down man corner?

Saleh is misusing Gardner. Period.  We are getting mid round value (all one needs for Saleh scheme) for a top 5 pick. Makes no sense.  I blame Saleh. 

[Dcat]

1 hour ago, nj meadowlands said:

I think his point is actually that Sauce sucks and is soft.  It’s brilliant stuff. 

He is right in that sauce refuses to tackle too often.  We see it every week. Not sure why Saleh lets that go. I mean not only is Saleh wasting all that talent, but he doesn't look to develop him at all when he needs it. i.e. you tackle in the NFL.

[Matt39]

11 minutes ago, Dcat said:

He is right in that sauce refuses to tackle too often.  We see it every week. Not sure why Saleh lets that go. I mean not only is Saleh wasting all that talent, but he doesn't look to develop him at all when he needs it. i.e. you tackle in the NFL.

Could easily counter with Jermaine Johnson plays his ass off and is being utilized properly, which I’ve said a ton. He’s been a beast all season. You’re not being honest with yourself if you’re ok with sauces effort in tackling. Zone corners have to tackle. Here’s an example of what an elite zone corner looks like:

 

[Adoni Beast]

Funny because I thought Revis’ best year was 2009….Stupid Sauce

[Fantasy Island]

Seriously, no.  
 

CJ Moseley , however.

He is every TE in the league’s beeoootch.

That’s what needs to happen.  

[Rhg1084]

Wait so now we don’t like Sauce? 

[GreenFish]

2 hours ago, hmhertz said:

Revis problem was he was the most selfish person to ever walk the earth.

How can you build a team with the cap when one guy is interested in

grabbing every buck, Players like Brady, Rodgers, Mahomed and even

Danny Dimes , didn't try to grab every nickel so management could build their

team. In 2015 he became a fat greedy bastid and let Sammy Watkins run

wild extinguishing our last chance at the playoffs

I was agreeing with most of what you said until you got to Danny Dimes. He’s the most overpaid player in the NFL.

Yes, Revis wanted every penny. On the field with the Jets, he was a complete corner. 

[GreenFish]

2 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Prime had the uncanny ability to bait QBs to throw his way and also picked off the ball. Deion also was one of the best PR/KR of all time. People took the tackling because he generated turnovers, blanketed receivers and scored touchdowns. 

Agree. Prime was a better player.

But what’s the bar? Sauce is an all-pro caliber cover corner who is not a good tackler and doesn't get many turnovers.

While he can improve his game, he’s still a top player on our team and he’s a top 5 corner in the league.

 

[slimjasi]

Get off this guy’s nuts, Matt

[Maynard13]

8 hours ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

Says the guy who drives around in a 1974 station wagon.

[Maynard13]

34 minutes ago, slimjasi said:

Get off this guy’s nuts, Matt

Hey @Matt39 have some chocolate 

 

[Ecuadorian Jet]

8 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Nah. At some point the players have to step up on their own. Watching this type of effort is maddening 

What kind of baby tackling was that?

Ahmad Gardner is an ok player, but he bought into his own hype, and it has all gotten to his head.

[Beerfish]

So why is no one on this site calling him tomato gravy?    Youz guyz confuse me.

[BornJetsFan1983]

10 hours ago, Matt39 said:

another guy we can move on from if the team had any brains. 

Yeahets get rid of the maybe qw and his brother too. JJ, Garrett Wilson. You know all these guys that are just too into social media. Siemian this kid is the future let's ride!

[Fantasy Island]

He is a better tackler than Mevi$.  And somehow, he is in the HOF.

[The Crusher]

15 hours ago, Hex said:

While we're at it, let's punt both QW brothers, Garrett Wilson, and Breece Hall.

Reset. 

[Barton]

11 hours ago, Dcat said:

He is right in that sauce refuses to tackle too often.  We see it every week. Not sure why Saleh lets that go. I mean not only is Saleh wasting all that talent, but he doesn't look to develop him at all when he needs it. i.e. you tackle in the NFL.

I dont think he's ever gonna tackle with conviction. He just had a notable concussion, no less.

And I'm ok with that as long as he keeps shutting guys down. However, Ulbrich/Saleh need to move him around. Enough with this "scheme" bs.

[Matt39]

8 hours ago, Maynard13 said:

Says the guy who drives around in a 1974 station wagon.

68*

[Barton]

1 hour ago, Fantasy Island said:

He is a better tackler than Mevi$.  And somehow, he is in the HOF.

Wuh? Revis is 1 of the best tackling corners of all time. 

[Matt39]

1 minute ago, Barton said:

Wuh? Revis is 1 of the best tackling corners of all time. 

In the early years yes. But he stopped after he got that concussion.

[Barton]

1 minute ago, Matt39 said:

In the early years yes. But he stopped after he got that concussion.

Yes, that is correct. He shied away post concussion. So his last maybe 2 years or so he didnt stick his head in there.

Cant blame him. 

[More Cowbell]

17 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Nah. At some point the players have to step up on their own. Watching this type of effort is maddening 

So your blaming him for Adams bad tackling? 

[The Crusher]

13 hours ago, Matt39 said:

He gave up a touchdown to Shakir on the Bills. 

I respect your effort on this but "these hills are made for dying and ...." Yet, you have every right to mad at everything after this abortion of a season. Do you bro!!!

[Rich Thornburgh]

12 hours ago, Matt39 said:

Prime had the uncanny ability to bait QBs to throw his way and also picked off the ball. Deion also was one of the best PR/KR of all time. People took the tackling because he generated turnovers, blanketed receivers and scored touchdowns. 

Didn’t he play both WR and CB in 1996?

[Matt39]

3 minutes ago, Rich Thornburgh said:

Didn’t he play both WR and CB in 1996?

Yes. 

[Dcat]

12 hours ago, JoeWillieWhiteShoesHOF said:

Gardner can BLANKET a receiver while that receiver is putting on 57 moves on his route.  I think he’s even better at that than Revis was in his prime.  Opposing offenses virtually NEVER throw to his side, why the Jets don’t loosen up and let him man up against the very best receiver the opposition puts out there that day I don’t know, what I do know is that he’s already probably the #1 CB in the NFL right now.

Because, my fellow Jets fan, Robert Saleh is a prototype meathead.