Randy Mueller thinks the Jets could get a 2nd round pick in a tag and trade for Bryce Huff

[maury77]

If that is really the case, it would be a great way for the Jets to recoup the 2nd rounder they lost in the AR12 trade. 

[maury77]

How do I edit the thread title? I misspelled tag. 

[Barton]

Huff is a closer. This team has always lacked pass rushing closers. They can keep him. 

[Jets Things]

56 minutes ago, Barton said:

Huff is a closer. This team has always lacked pass rushing closers. They can keep him. 

He's too small to play against the run and is trying to get paid like he's an every down DE. He isn't. 

[Untouchable]

3 minutes ago, Jets Things said:

He's too small to play against the run and is trying to get paid like he's an every down DE. He isn't. 

Pretty much

I think Huff is really similar to a guy like Yannick Ngakoue.

That dude can rush the passer, but he’s bounced all around the league and teams have refused to sign him longterm because he’s a complete liability against the run.

Put Huff out there for 80% of the defensive snaps and he’s going to get exposed.

[static14]

I'd like for him to stay, but I really think he'll cost too much. If we can get a 2nd in a tag and trade that seems like a no brainer. 

[T0mShane]

Heard Brad Spielberger (PFF’s contracts guy) explain that the Jets are kinda screwed with Huff because he’s really a $13-$15mm AAV guy and the tag is going to start at $20 million, so the acquiring team already starts out in an overpay situation where Huff has all the leverage. Spielberger said the best the Jets can expect is for a team to offer a pick that’s simply higher than the comp pick the Jets would potentially get for losing Huff. Which the Jets wouldn’t get anyway because they’re going to chase bad free agents around. 

[Creepy Lurker]

The Jets can’t afford him. They need to free up money so they can sign Greg Van Roten to a long term $15 mil/year deal so he can be Laken Tomlinson part 2.

[heymangold]

awesome story and shoulda locked him up before the season for cheaper.  but he's looking to get paid and i've seen somewhere around 17-20M.  too much for a guy that doesn't do much but rush the passer.

JJ and McD are the future, i guess.

[Creepy Lurker]

2 minutes ago, heymangold said:

awesome story and shoulda locked him up before the season for cheaper.  but he's looking to get paid and i've seen somewhere around 17-20M.  too much for a guy that doesn't do much but rush the passer.

JJ and McD are the future, i guess.

I just wish they traded him since season was lost so early because of the AR injury. Either way it’s terrible foresight and mismanagement by JD.
 

The entire 2023 year between FA, Draft and in season moved has easily been the worst GM performance that I have ever seen, despite getting the great AR. When you look at everything and the sequence of events, it’s the most incompetent performance of anything that I’ve ever seen. 

[Scotty Wooty Doo Doo]

5 minutes ago, Creepy Lurker said:

I just wish they traded him since season was lost so early because of the AR injury. Either way it’s terrible foresight and mismanagement by JD.
 

 

Mismanagement by JD is an understatement

[Creepy Lurker]

1 minute ago, Scotty Wooty Doo Doo said:

Mismanagement by JD is an understatement

I just hope one day we find out about all the behind the scenes stuff with the Johnson brothers, Wilson, Salad and JD. We need to know for sure who is to blame. Likely all of them but details would help. 

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The franchise tag for DE's is gonna be close to $24m according to OTC. If I were Huff, I would force the Jets to tag me then refuse to sign a long term deal with any team. He could really implode the Jets chances of trading him if wants to play on the tag for a season. Douglas did Huff dirty last year, I don't think Huff does us any favors.

[Asymmetrical]

24 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Heard Brad Spielberger (PFF’s contracts guy) explain that the Jets are kinda screwed with Huff because he’s really a $13-$15mm AAV guy and the tag is going to start at $20 million, so the acquiring team already starts out in an overpay situation where Huff has all the leverage. Spielberger said the best the Jets can expect is for a team to offer a pick that’s simply higher than the comp pick the Jets would potentially get for losing Huff. Which the Jets wouldn’t get anyway because they’re going to chase bad free agents around. 

Jets adding Getsy and Bahktiari (i don't care how its spelled and wont look it up) or a Trent Brown type and getting nothing for Huff sounds about right. 

[dbatesman]

wow, former Seattle Sea Dragons director of pro personnel Randy Mueller?

[Tooooon]

Tage and trade is easier said than done.  Plus getting stuck paying Huff 20+ mil on the tage is too risky.  

[Asymmetrical]

2 minutes ago, dbatesman said:

wow, former Seattle Sea Dragons director of pro personnel Randy Mueller?

forgot to add this in my original post, but Mueller is a donkey. Thank you for pointing this out

[Barry McCockinner]

7 minutes ago, bla bla bla said:

The franchise tag for DE's is gonna be close to $24m according to OTC. If I were Huff, I would force the Jets to tag me then refuse to sign a long term deal with any team. He could really implode the Jets chances of trading him if wants to play on the tag for a season. Douglas did Huff dirty last year, I don't think Huff does us any favors.

how did Douglas do Huff dirty?

[GreenFish]

36 minutes ago, T0mShane said:

Heard Brad Spielberger (PFF’s contracts guy) explain that the Jets are kinda screwed with Huff because he’s really a $13-$15mm AAV guy and the tag is going to start at $20 million, so the acquiring team already starts out in an overpay situation where Huff has all the leverage. Spielberger said the best the Jets can expect is for a team to offer a pick that’s simply higher than the comp pick the Jets would potentially get for losing Huff. Which the Jets wouldn’t get anyway because they’re going to chase bad free agents around. 

This is the challenge. A reasonable contract for Huff is 3yr $40m. If the Jets transition tag him and aren’t able to trade him, they can try and trade JFM. But the $20m is an overpay.

[NYDreamer]

I'm sorry but we need to keep him.  He is home grown talent and a shining star for Joe Douglas to sign him as an undrafted free agent.  There are no guarenttees with a second round pick.  Managing the cap to keep him will be done.

[68JET11]

Huff is unfortunately is disposable because of McDonald. Fair or not, I'm guessing they are not going to give up on him, and expect him to gym it out this offseason to replace Huff... We need to get whatever we can in a deal for him, even if it's only a 3.

[Barry McCockinner]

tag and trade w/Atl to move up to 6 (swap firsts) and get a starting LT.

[NYDreamer]

Just now, Barry McCockinner said:

tag and trade w/Atl to move up to 6 (swap firsts) and get a starting LT.

So reminiscent of John Abraham trade to Atlanta so many years ago.

[TuscanyTile2]

2 minutes ago, NYDreamer said:

I'm sorry but we need to keep him.  He is home grown talent and a shining star for Joe Douglas to sign him as an undrafted free agent.  There are no guarenttees with a second round pick.  Managing the cap to keep him will be done.

He's gone.  And we couldn't do nothing about it.

 

[ZachStepdad]

I would trade him for a way to get Michael Penix and still get an OL at 10

[Lurker89]

I'm so out on JD and Saleh ...

Both seem way out of their depth 3 years in.

In JDs press conference he looked like a lost puppy and has horribly mismanaged FA both in house and bringing  in guys.

Saleh as a coach lacks all accountability and discipline... penalties out of control, players aren't held accountable... offense cant find its d**k in the dirt, OC not held accountable. Line coach universally panned as horrible and not held accountable.

We're still a clown shoes organization.

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25 minutes ago, Barry McCockinner said:

how did Douglas do Huff dirty?

They gave Huff every indication that they didn't believe in him.

- didn't work out a reasonable deal last offseason

- hit him with the 2nd round tender, begging a team to give them a pick rather than spending the $3m more on the 1st round tender which would have implied they wanted him.

- then they decided in a year they were gaining All-In on a SB that they felt they could burn a 1st on a player that was barely going to play

- then restructured Lawson to push his cap hit into 2024 when they had a free out to save all of that space.

Maybe I'm reading into that too far but I completely understand if Huff wants to play hard ball

[oatmeal]

18 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He's gone.  And we couldn't do nothing about it.

 

That scene is still so crazy to me:

“We killed your friend now plz sit down and stfu” 

[oatmeal]

Bears still looking for pass rushers 

Huff and Wilson for Justin Felids st8 up who says no?

[TuscanyTile2]

30 minutes ago, Lurker89 said:

I'm so out on JD and Saleh ...

Both seem way out of their depth 3 years in.

In JDs press conference he looked like a lost puppy and has horribly mismanaged FA both in house and bringing  in guys.

Saleh as a coach lacks all accountability and discipline... penalties out of control, players aren't held accountable... offense cant find its d**k in the dirt, OC not held accountable. Line coach universally panned as horrible and not held accountable.

We're still a clown shoes organization.

I still think there's some worth in JD but Saleh is an absolute clown.  Can't wait until he gets sh-tcanned.

[slimjasi]

1 hour ago, Creepy Lurker said:

When you look at everything and the sequence of events, it’s the most incompetent performance of anything that I’ve ever seen. 

Of anything? 
 

 

 

[jetspenguin]

I said this 2 months ago

[slimjasi]

40 minutes ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

He's gone.  And we couldn't do nothing about it.

 

It was amongst the GMs

It was real greaseball sh*t 

[slimjasi]

22 minutes ago, oatmeal said:

That scene is still so crazy to me:

“We killed your friend now plz sit down and stfu” 

Dude had it coming 10 times over 

[joewilly12]

A what if pick vs proven NFL player.