Jets Probably not Finished Paying for Aaron Rodgers Trade

[TheNuuFaaolaExperience]

Pretty sure they finished paying. This year's second round pick is the end of that. 

[Tooooon]

These AI articles are getting more annoying.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[bitonti]

1 hour ago, Sperm Edwards said:

but you're way overrating the personnel on these teams' lines

trent williams is the best lineman in football that makes a huge difference when 4/5 are goatherders 

similarly Creed and Thuney are no doubt all Pros, Smith is a Pro Bowler that makes a huge difference when the tackles are marginal 

a good offensive line doesn't need to be 5 all pros 

1 all pro is enough to get a line to the top 10

2 all pros is enough to get a line to the top 5

the Jets have zero all pros zero pro bowls unless you want to count Laken (who got it playing next to Trent Williams). It's not just these media award bias it's a lack of top end talent 

 

[Augustiniak]

18 minutes ago, bitonti said:

trent williams is the best lineman in football that makes a huge difference when 4/5 are goatherders 

similarly Creed and Thuney are no doubt all Pros, Smith is a Pro Bowler that makes a huge difference when the tackles are marginal 

a good offensive line doesn't need to be 5 all pros 

1 all pro is enough to get a line to the top 10

2 all pros is enough to get a line to the top 5

the Jets have zero all pros zero pro bowls unless you want to count Laken (who got it playing next to Trent Williams). It's not just these media award bias it's a lack of top end talent 

 

Their best OL is avt who can’t stay healthy but he’s the best one they have. 

[Sperm Edwards]

15 minutes ago, bitonti said:

trent williams is the best lineman in football that makes a huge difference when 4/5 are goatherders 

similarly Creed and Thuney are no doubt all Pros, Smith is a Pro Bowler that makes a huge difference when the tackles are marginal 

a good offensive line doesn't need to be 5 all pros 

1 all pro is enough to get a line to the top 10

2 all pros is enough to get a line to the top 5

the Jets have zero all pros zero pro bowls unless you want to count Laken (who got it playing next to Trent Williams). It's not just these media award bias it's a lack of top end talent 

 

I don't agree with one opinion you've written here. Not one. 

A probowl left tackle doesn't make up for 4 forgettable - if not outright trash - talents to his right. No serious fan believes this.

San Fran doesn't suffer because their QB gets rid of the ball in 2.5 seconds and because of their skill-position talent on that side of the ball there's pretty much always somewhere to go without staring a guy down hoping he creates separation. 

KC can get away with two bad tackles - the two positions everyone here harps on about being the cornerstones of a team's OL - because Mahomes is awesome and even if an edge rusher can beat a tackle they block them to have to go around wider, and Mahomes - unlike any recent Jets QBs - knows how to step into the area that edge came from to roll out to either side, and not just stand there and hold it (or if stepping up, walk right into a center as he's getting pushed backwards - like an emptyheaded fool. A crap QB makes everyone's job on the OL harder. They never know where he's going to go (let alone if he's going to pirouette backwards), or how far back he's going to drop on any given play (so a tackle could correctly block someone to take a long way around, but if the QB's dropping to that spot it looks like the tackle did a crap job on the play). No group can consistently block for such a QB. 

That said, the Jets' OL was garbage. A poisonous combination of mostly meh players and then add in lots of injuries to change the lineup pretty much every week, usually blocking for Zach Wilson.

The line wasn't good last year either, but - other than the play he got his lungs caved in - they looked like a different group entirely when even a forgettable QB like Mike White was out there in place of Zach. Funny how much better the talent - even meh talent - looks when the QB is not just getting the ball out in 2.3-2.4 seconds, but the OL has no idea where he's going to slide to so they don't know which way to goad the rusher into going. Becton is a legitimate talent, and was in the best shape of his life, yet he never looked worse than he did this season.

A stud - or at worst a serious starting - QB, who has legitimate places to throw the ball, makes a meh line serviceable, and a good line look great. You surely know that yourself by now. Tomlinson wasn't just good in San Fran because of Williams; he was also good because he needed to hold his blocks for half a second less per snap, so because the play was over it hid a lot of inadequacies. 

[GangGreened]

I’m more worried about the massive cap hits the next regime is going to have to endure when he’s gone 

[jeremy2020]

5 minutes ago, GangGreened said:

I’m more worried about the massive cap hits the next regime is going to have to endure when he’s gone 

Don't worry. Idzik is available to fix it.

[BigRy56]

What is not being outlined yet is that there is more to the deal.

In April of 2023... Aaron Rodgers, Woody Johnson, Robert Saleh, and Joe Douglas each entered the arena of ayahuasca. The night resulted in them each gouging their hands and tying their hands together with a rabbit pelt. 

It was then that the NY Jets and Aaron Rodgers entered into a tribal blood covenant. The only way out of this is death.

Russini is working on this story as we speak. Don't tell anybody

[rangerous]

5 hours ago, Barry McCockinner said:

Van Roten is ranked top 5 on the PFF free agent list and that doesn't make you question PFF at all? Like, not in the slightest? 

Of course it does.  I just stated it because they do compile some sorts of stats on players.  I think there was an article at jetsX stating how the rankings of the raider oline free agents was iffy.

[JohnnyLV]

We should not draft OL in RD1 again. But everyone is just tunnel visioned on this.

[peebag]

12 hours ago, rangerous said:

I think there’s a belief that the oline needs to get into the top ten.  Okay that’s great if they can achieve that but what this type of thinking forgets is the quality of the oline play is also determined by the qb and the running backs.  With Rodgers and hall in the backfield I think the oline really only needs to be average ( how this is determined, I don’t know.  Maybe pff ratings of the individual players).  Rodgers and hall will be able to be pretty effective if this is the case.

Rodgers is one year removed from a catastrophic injury.  He won't be as mobile and he will be another year older.

The O-line needs to be solid with plenty of capable reserves.  And they need a decent WR to take the heat off 17.

Don't think we're going to get there in an all-in type of year.

[Rangers9]

5 hours ago, JohnnyLV said:

We should not draft OL in RD1 again. But everyone is just tunnel visioned on this.

With Zach out this is the obvious year to draft a QB. 

[slimjasi]

10 minutes ago, Rangers9 said:

With Zach out this is the obvious year to draft a QB. 

I would agree if we were starting over at coach and GM

But with lame ducks at coach and GM, it makes more sense to wait a year. 

What happens to the newly drafted QB if JD and Saleh get fired next year? You think the new regime is going to be committed to developing a guy they didn't draft? Most likely, they'll want to pick their own guy. So you have a QB you invested significant resources in who isn't aligned with his coach and GM. More dysfunction. 

It makes a lot more sense to give Rodgers the best supporting cast you can in 2024 and sink or swim. If you swim (make the playoffs), you draft his replacement in 2025 to sit behind him for a year. If you sink, everyone gets fired and you start over with a new regime, and in turn, they (presumably) draft their QB of the future in 2025. 

[pajet]

16 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

What about those 4 plays?  That Breece Hall run?

The introduction was fun.

[sec101row23]

The final “payment” will be all of the dead money that will be eaten by the next GM and HC when Aaron leaves in 2025.  

[CrazyCarl40]

2025 Rodgers, Saleh, and JD will all be gone and this error will be done. Thankfully. 

[Biggs]

21 hours ago, Augustiniak said:

Ifrodges were healthy this isn’t written.  

If Joe Namath came to the Jets with good knees he's the GOAT. 

[AFJF]

21 hours ago, bicketybam said:

How are they not finished paying for the trade? Who writes this stuff?

Go to your favorite Mexican restaurant.

Order the whole menu.

Eat it, pay for it and drive home.

A few hours later you'll still be paying for it.

That's the the Jets did with the Rodgers deal.

[AFJF]

This was pretty widely used and understood term for as long as I can remember.  Apparently not a concept that's not as widely understood as I'd assumed.  Apologies.

[SomebodytoAnybody47]

10 minutes ago, AFJF said:

Go to your favorite Mexican restaurant.

Order the whole menu.

Eat it, pay for it and drive home.

A few hours later you'll still be paying for it.

That's the the Jets did with the Rodgers deal.

Makes sense. And I'd def go back again because it's so damn good.

[Fantasy Island]

22 hours ago, bicketybam said:

How are they not finished paying for the trade? Who writes this stuff?

It means we not only lost last season, we lost 2nd rounder this year and to get that back we will have to trade multiple picks to recoup that.

Karen Rodgers is like Herpes in that we are stuck with him no matter what.

[Jet2020]

22 hours ago, bicketybam said:

How are they not finished paying for the trade? Who writes this stuff?

A 5th grader. Have some respect. It’s his masterpiece. 

[bicketybam]

Go to your favorite Mexican restaurant.

Order the whole menu.

Eat it, pay for it and drive home.

A few hours later you'll still be paying for it.

That's the the Jets did with the Rodgers deal.

Quit while you are behind.

[bicketybam]

It means we not only lost last season, we lost 2nd rounder this year and to get that back we will have to trade multiple picks to recoup that.
Karen Rodgers is like Herpes in that we are stuck with him no matter what.

Thanks for that awful explanation. I didn't expect anything less from you. Kudos.

[Beerfish]

21 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

Don't worry. Idzik is available to fix it.

Idzik fixed our cap, traded Revis for a decent return and acquired comp pics.

He also drafted smartly as far as positional value goes.  He just made a  majority of really bad picks.