(Offensive Line Coach help) Doug Marrone Or Mike Munchek)

[NYDreamer]

Recently released be the Saints as an offensive line coach, former head coach experience Doug Maronne would be a great addition to this staff on the Offensive line.

The Other guy to consider is Mike Munchek with the Offensive line.  

I truly do not want to go into the season with what was.

[varjet]

5 minutes ago, NYDreamer said:

 I truly do not want to go into the season with what was.

i think we are going into the season with what was (except as otherwise noted).  

[Fantasy Island]

Another wasted season, doesn’t get any better.  Keith Carter going to collect a check.

Yay!

[Sperm Edwards]

Get a brain, Marrones!

[rangerous]

Both of those coaches are pretty good.  Marrone may have a slight advantage since he was interviewed for the jets hc job a while back.  Hard to say if either of these guys are looking for long term or short term jobs.  They might even consider the job if they think saleh can’t deliver.  But it also looks like criticism of carter is a little overblown.  He’s supposed to be a tough coach.  Well, these guys are supposed to be tough football players.

[Adoni Beast]

1 minute ago, rangerous said:

Both of those coaches are pretty good.  Marrone may have a slight advantage since he was interviewed for the jets hc job a while back.  Hard to say if either of these guys are looking for long term or short term jobs.  They might even consider the job if they think saleh can’t deliver.  But it also looks like criticism of carter is a little overblown.  He’s supposed to be a tough coach.  Well, these guys are supposed to be tough football players.

Worth noting that Marrone has ties to both Hackett and Saleh as they were on the same staff at one point I believe....if not all 3 then Marrone and Hackett definitely were at the same time in Jax.

[JetPotato]

Joe Douglas' wife and Keith Carter's wife once ran into each other in the parking lot and it turns out they both have the same white SUV with gold trim. 

Carter will be here a long time.

[Integrity28]

Both good hires, both capable of being the interim HC when Booby Salsa fails.

[sourceworx]

2 minutes ago, Integrity28 said:

Both good hires, both capable of being the interim HC when Booby Salsa fails.

...which means it ain't happening.

[rex-n-effect]

Carter has been a disaster for sure but what's the likelihood Saleh wants a credible threat to his job on the coaching staff? If Saleh gets canned, Ulbrich can keep running the exact same defense. Both guys suggested could take over as interim HC and give the team offensive leadership. Saleh's comment his first year that a monkey could run his defense admits with the system installed he's no longer critical to making it work. 

[Trotter]

Munchek all day long but as others have said - will never happen - or would he even want to come here 

[NYDreamer]

40 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

Carter has been a disaster for sure but what's the likelihood Saleh wants a credible threat to his job on the coaching staff? If Saleh gets canned, Ulbrich can keep running the exact same defense. Both guys suggested could take over as interim HC and give the team offensive leadership. Saleh's comment his first year that a monkey could run his defense admits with the system installed he's no longer critical to making it work. 

Great question.  Salah's thought should be surround yourself by those who inspire you to do better so you elevate your game.  

He once said:  ""Two types of coaches. Those who have been fired and those who are about to get fired.

This is where he needs to put ego aside and bring in help.

[Beerfish]

Saleh and Douglas love their guys, they added a few small pieces there will be no changes at oline coaching.

[Lupz27]

2 hours ago, NYDreamer said:

Recently released be the Saints as an offensive line coach, former head coach experience Doug Maronne would be a great addition to this staff on the Offensive line.

The Other guy to consider is Mike Munchek with the Offensive line.  

I truly do not want to go into the season with what was.

I’d wonder how long it would be before Maronne underminds Saleh to make a play at the HC job should he be the hire.

[JetsfaninNorthHollywood]

 

Marrone, it would be a homecoming. He's from the Bronx, after all. 

As for Munchak, he has a great resume as a player, all pro, played alongside Bruce Matthew's one of the best offensive linemen. He also got Garret Bolles turned around. 

 

[playtowinthegame]

Doug Marrone is the obvious choice.

[varjet]

2 hours ago, rex-n-effect said:

Carter has been a disaster for sure but what's the likelihood Saleh wants a credible threat to his job on the coaching staff? If Saleh gets canned, Ulbrich can keep running the exact same defense. Both guys suggested could take over as interim HC and give the team offensive leadership. Saleh's comment his first year that a monkey could run his defense admits with the system installed he's no longer critical to making it work. 

Remember with Todd Bowles and his coordinators?  He did the same thing.   There was never anyone on his staff who could take over.  

Saleh can't get himself into trouble with Joe Benigno again.  

My guess is that Woody did reach out to other coaches to add some credibility to this mess.  For one year you just let Ulbrich and Hackett/Rodgers and Boyer do their thing.  We just need a credible CEO.

Next year the new HC can do what he wants.  

[Ghost]

I rather have Marrone as HC than Saleh. 

[TuscanyTile2]

Why are we worried about the OL all of a sudden?  I thought everyone agreed that the root cause of our OL problems was ZW holding onto the ball too long plus he didn't make good pre-snap adjustments.  Next thing you know I'll start hearing that our WR group needs to be upgraded.  (Obviously, another falsehood as the problem was ZW couldn't get the ball to them).

/s

 

[rex-n-effect]

38 minutes ago, varjet said:

Remember with Todd Bowles and his coordinators?  He did the same thing.   There was never anyone on his staff who could take over.  

Saleh can't get himself into trouble with Joe Benigno again.  

My guess is that Woody did reach out to other coaches to add some credibility to this mess.  For one year you just let Ulbrich and Hackett/Rodgers and Boyer do their thing.  We just need a credible CEO.

Next year the new HC can do what he wants.  

I expect whoever comes in as Hackett's replacement-not-replacement will be somebody without head coaching experience so there's no risk to Saleh. 

[varjet]

47 minutes ago, rex-n-effect said:

I expect whoever comes in as Hackett's replacement-not-replacement will be somebody without head coaching experience so there's no risk to Saleh. 

Saleh seems done here.  Replacing him makes the most sense, but my guess is that he does not want to give back his HC salary, and Woody does not want to eat it.

Saleh can stay at MetLife and be DC for the Giants. 

[doitny]

6 hours ago, rex-n-effect said:

Carter has been a disaster for sure but what's the likelihood Saleh wants a credible threat to his job on the coaching staff? If Saleh gets canned, Ulbrich can keep running the exact same defense. Both guys suggested could take over as interim HC and give the team offensive leadership. Saleh's comment his first year that a monkey could run his defense admits with the system installed he's no longer critical to making it work. 

why does everyone think that the defense will be the same with Ulbrich? 

this is Salehs defense, Ulbrich is just a top Lieutenant. just like its McVays offense not MLF, or Reids offense not Bienemys. if Ulbrich takes over he will do whatever he wants and change things to his preference. 

[doitny]

3 hours ago, TuscanyTile2 said:

Why are we worried about the OL all of a sudden?  I thought everyone agreed that the root cause of our OL problems was ZW holding onto the ball too long plus he didn't make good pre-snap adjustments.  Next thing you know I'll start hearing that our WR group needs to be upgraded.  (Obviously, another falsehood as the problem was ZW couldn't get the ball to them).

/s

 

you still want to die on the Zach Wilson hill?

in 11 games Zach Wilson sack percentage was 11%. in 3 games Siemans sack Percentage was 5%,

and Sieman faced a good Washington DL where he was sacked ZERO times. and a great Browns defense which sacked him 2 times.

Zach got sacked 8 times by the great defense of the........LA Chargers. LOL

in fact Zach has been sacked more than 2 times in every game this year.

and Zach has never had a ZERO sack game in 33 games while Sieman has 1 in 3 games.

last year Zach had a 8.7% sack percentage in 9 games.

Joe "old man" Flacco had  a 5% sack percentage in 4 games

Mike "i move really slow" White had a 4.9% sack percentage in 4 games.

yes Zach Wilson is the reason this OL sucked and you will see how much better the WRs are when hes gone. 

[sourceworx]

1 minute ago, doitny said:

you still want to die on the Zach Wilson hill?

in 11 games Zach Wilson sack percentage was 11%. in 3 games Siemans sack Percentage was 5%,

and Sieman faced a good Washington DL where he was sacked ZERO times. and a great Browns defense which sacked him 2 times.

Zach got sacked 8 times by the great defense of the........LA Chargers. LOL

in fact Zach has been sacked more than 2 times in every game this year.

and Zach has never had a ZERO sack game in 33 games while Sieman has 1 in 3 games.

last year Zach had a 8.7% sack percentage in 9 games.

Joe "old man" Flacco had  a 5% sack percentage in 4 games

Mike "i move really slow" White had a 4.9% sack percentage in 4 games.

yes Zach Wilson is the reason this OL sucked and you will see how much better the WRs are when hes gone. 

As much as a great QB can make everyone around him look much better than they actually are, a terrible one can make everyone look much worse.

Zach absolutely killed this team the last couple of years.

[rex-n-effect]

1 hour ago, doitny said:

why does everyone think that the defense will be the same with Ulbrich? 

this is Salehs defense, Ulbrich is just a top Lieutenant. just like its McVays offense not MLF, or Reids offense not Bienemys. if Ulbrich takes over he will do whatever he wants and change things to his preference. 

They won't revamp the defense if Saleh gets canned mid-season. If Saleh is out, they'll replace the entire coaching staff. 

[Bugg]

14 hours ago, playtowinthegame said:

Doug Marrone is the obvious choice.

Unless Manish Mehta again reminds Robert Wood Johnson Roman Numerals that at Syracuse Marrone once...yelled at his players. How awful. Can you imagine a football coach raising his voice? My God....

[T0mShane]

17 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Both good hires, both capable of being the interim HC when Booby Salsa fails.

Which is why neither one will get a shot here. Woody knows Marrone, too. 

[Adoni Beast]

15 hours ago, Ghost said:

I rather have Marrone as HC than Saleh. 

Easy decision there and should have been our head coach in 2015 if Woody wasn’t swayed by Mehta Manish. 

[Integrity28]

1 hour ago, T0mShane said:

Which is why neither one will get a shot here. Woody knows Marrone, too. 

Yeah, but Booby Salsa… ehh…. Ehhh… think it’ll stick?

[bicketybam]

Doug Marrone, two time HC loser. Yeah, he should have been the choice back in 2015.

[doitny]

37 minutes ago, Adoni Beast said:

Easy decision there and should have been our head coach in 2015 if Woody wasn’t swayed by Mehta Manish. 

and it was a good thing he wasnt. 

he has a 388 win %. Bowles had a 375% as a Jet. and after Marrone went 10-6 with JAX he fell off the map going winning 6, 5 and had a 1-15 season his last year. just like Bowles did. won 10 games and then fell off the map.

Saleh has won 18 games in 3 years. Marrones last 3 years he won 12. and this is the guy you guys want to replace Salah with ? lol

[Adoni Beast]

4 minutes ago, doitny said:

and it was a good thing he wasnt. 

he has a 388 win %. Bowles had a 375% as a Jet. and after Marrone went 10-6 with JAX he fell off the map going winning 6, 5 and had a 1-15 season his last year. just like Bowles did. won 10 games and then fell off the map.

Saleh has won 18 games in 3 years. Marrones last 3 years he won 12. and this is the guy you guys want to replace Salah with ? lol

Right but not really the point. The point is even the tabloid media whores can make Woody make decisions.

[carlito1171]

19 hours ago, Integrity28 said:

Both good hires, both capable of being the interim HC when Booby Salsa fails.

Also retained when we inevitably hire a new staff.....

No brainer hire. Which means we won't do it